Hatton question

**Bigsexy** · 01-22-2007 02:44 AM

How many of u are rethinkinghis big win over Kostya, after watching Hatton more i beleive the only reason Kostya lost was because of his training regimen. Remember what time they fought i think it was like 3 in the morning or something crazy like that so Hatton trained at night to accomodate his body to the time they were fighting which makes total sense to me, but Kostya said he would not change his time of training because he only had to do it for 1 fight which was probably his downfall. I bring this up because this Hatton kid is absolutely nothing special he will only gets worse as the competition gets better mark my words.

**Memphis** · 01-22-2007 02:52 AM

I think your stretching things a bit to suggest that the times they trained are responsible for the outcome. You may have something of a point, it could have had an impact. But enough of an impact to allow a kid who is "nothing special" to batter Kostya Tszyu into submision? I dont think so. Hatton was possesed that night, he was going to win that fight regardless of what Tszyu did.

**Bigsexy** · 01-22-2007 03:49 AM

Memphis my boy are u trying to tell me that training regimen is not responsible fot the outcome of atleast 85% of a fight, come on bro u know better than you're letting on. I just dont see anything special about him at this point, you're only as good as your last showing. mark my words he will decline as the comp gets stiffer. and when i say decline i dont mean squeeking out a win i mean outclassed and loosing. Try fighting all your life at a certain time to fight and then totally reverse the time without properly preparing and tell me it has no ill effects. Not to mention a kostya quite pass his prime. Seems to me kostya loosing was mostly based on himself and not on Hatton. I did'nt say it would be easy to hear, only that it would be the truth.

**moonlight19** · 01-22-2007 03:59 AM

No way.

Hatton beat Tszyu because he was better in all areas that night. Not because of what time of day KT trained. Hatton was the agressor - backed Tszyu up and beat him up.

He definatley hasn't looked like the same guy in his last 2 fights but his follow up against Maussa was still a very good performance against a really funky opponent.

As for Tszyu being "well past his prime" - that certianly wasn't the tune everyone was singing when he destroyed Sharmba Mitchell right before the Hatton encounter. Tszyu did get old that night in Manchester - but it was because Hatton drove him there like he was Morgan Freemen.

Hatton had a "come to Jesus" moment last night. He realized that the Guinness and fry-ups between fights are finally having the negative effects people had warned him about. It hadn't effected him before so he didn't heed the warnings - he knows now.

We' see a return to form against JLC in my opinion. If not - then it's back to Manchester against the likes of Stewart and Oliviera.

**Lords Gym** · 01-22-2007 03:59 AM

Truth is Ricky is past his prime ! while he is not all that old at 28, he is in boxing terms, he fights rough hard fights , and has bad habits out of the ring. up and down is whole career making weight.. as a youngster you can get away with it, but over the years it adds up ! Ricky needs to make lifestyle adjustments to accommodate his changing body and mind ! losing 40 fucking pounds in 3 months is taxing to body and the stamina .. James Toney did that for the Jones fight.. Tarver did that for the Hopkins fight… it leaves you empty .. 7 to 10 lb over your fighting weight is expectable walk around weight for a fighter at this level.

**Kel** · 01-22-2007 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Lords Gym

Truth is Ricky is past his prime ! while he is not all that old at 28, he is in boxing terms, he fights rough hard fights , and has bad habits out of the ring. up and down is whole career making weight.. as a youngster you can get away with it, but over the years it adds up ! Ricky needs to make lifestyle adjustments to accommodate his changing body and mind ! losing 40 F****** pounds in 3 months is taxing to body and the stamina .. James Toney did that for the Jones fight.. Tarver did that for the Hopkins fight… it leaves you empty .. 7 to 10 lb over your fighting weight is expectable walk around weight for a fighter at this level.

Exactly, it has to catch up with you eventually.

I hope he sits up and takes notice now instead of trying to laugh it of with all his Fatton T-Shirts he gets made up for him to show to the press. He might always get down to 140lb no matter what but at this stage in his career I think it is clear that he is leaving way too much of himself in the gym getting there.

He has the rest of his life to live the good life

**Lords Gym** · 01-22-2007 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kel

Originally Posted by Lords Gym

Truth is Ricky is past his prime ! while he is not all that old at 28, he is in boxing terms, he fights rough hard fights , and has bad habits out of the ring. up and down is whole career making weight.. as a youngster you can get away with it, but over the years it adds up ! Ricky needs to make lifestyle adjustments to accommodate his changing body and mind ! losing 40 F****** pounds in 3 months is taxing to body and the stamina .. James Toney did that for the Jones fight.. Tarver did that for the Hopkins fight… it leaves you empty .. 7 to 10 lb over your fighting weight is expectable walk around weight for a fighter at this level.

Exactly, it has to catch up with you eventually.

I hope he sits up and takes notice now instead of trying to laugh it of with all his Fatton T-Shirts he gets made up for him to show to the press. He might always get down to 140lb no matter what but at this stage in his career I think it is clear that he is leaving way too much of himself in the gym getting there.

He has the rest of his life to live the good life

Agreed ! Hell I am the last person to preach.. I have similar problem.. I love food and drink a little too much also !

. Salads get old... It takes a lot of salads and veggies to equal the pleasure of one juicy Hamburger French fries , and an Ice Cold Beer !

**BoxingGorilla** · 01-22-2007 09:11 AM

He wrapped Tszyu up over and over in that fight. He will do it to Castillo and the next guy and the next... well, not to Cotto.

**BIG H** · 01-22-2007 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Memphis

I think your stretching things a bit to suggest that the times they trained are responsible for the outcome. You may have something of a point, it could have had an impact. But enough of an impact to allow a kid who is "nothing special" to batter Kostya Tszyu into submision? I dont think so. Hatton was possesed that night, he was going to win that fight regardless of what Tszyu did.

Totally agree with that

The only thing is I very much doubt he can ever get up to that level again - I think he has peaked.

Hope I'm wrong

**albsur2006** · 01-22-2007 05:27 PM

Hatton's definitely peaked. There no question about that. All of the unnecessary damage that he has done to his body has wrecked his style. He balloons like Toney and Fernando Vargas in between fights, he moved up to 147 and then moved back down. He eats trash food and drinks tons of beer between fights, which is all empty calories and carbs. The body can only take so much. Sure, he can lose 40 pounds in his three month long training camps, but it's not healthy to seesaw like that. He should take a page from Floyd Mayweather. Maybe Floyd's metabolism is just awesome but you'll never in your life see Floyd balloon to even 160 in between fights. While Floyd is criticized a lot, he really takes boxing very seriously because it is his livelihood. He keeps himself in great shape all year, Hatton should do the same. You only stay at your prime in boxing for a little while, why shorten it by being unhealthy in between fights.