peter furious at wbc klitschko and maskaev

[ICB]

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4618-pete...o-maskaev.html

[jbirdy]

shit so is it official then? vitalli is gonna make a come back?

[Big_Deuce]

please boxing gods please

[bigragu]

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4618-pete...o-maskaev.html

Peter better watchout for what he wishes for, he just might get it.....the opportunity that is....the only reason he was even up for a shot is because of the horrible state of the hw division....Vitali is twice the fighter Peter is....and let's face it...a cut was the only thing standing in the way of Vitali getting lewis's belt outright....

[Big_Deuce]

cc in 24

[Kev]

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4618-pete...o-maskaev.html

Peter better watchout for what he wishes for, he just might get it.....the opportunity that is....the only reason he was even up for a shot is because of the horrible state of the hw division....Vitali is twice the fighter Peter is....and let's face it...a cut was the only thing standing in the way of Vitali getting lewis's belt outright....

Whatever Peter's ability or lack of the fact is that he worked to get his shot. He fought in a world title eliminator for the chance to become Maskaev's mandatory.

He won.

The WBC didn't like it so they made him fight the match again.


He won again.

The WBC still didn't like it so now they are giving a retired former champ HIS (Peter's) shot?

That is just corrupt, plain and simple.

Peter must surely have a case against the WBC for this. He has wasted an entire year of his career fighting for the right to be the WBC mandatory, he's provided them and the the boxing world with two of the best heavyweight fights in recent years against Toney AND he's paid his sacntioning fees to the WBC twice.

The WBC are wankers, filthy, corrupt lowlife scum.

[Big_Deuce]

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4618-pete...o-maskaev.html

Peter better watchout for what he wishes for, he just might get it.....the opportunity that is....the only reason he was even up for a shot is because of the horrible state of the hw division....Vitali is twice the fighter Peter is....and let's face it...a cut was the only thing standing in the way of Vitali getting lewis's belt outright....

Whatever Peter's ability or lack of the fact is that he worked to get his shot. He fought in a world title eliminator for the chance to become Maskaev's mandatory.

He won.

The WBC didn't like it so they made him fight the match again.


He won again.

The WBC still didn't like it so now they are giving a retired former champ HIS (Peter's) shot?

That is just corrupt, plain and simple.

Peter must surely have a case against the WBC for this. He has wasted an entire year of his career fighting for the right to be the WBC mandatory, he's provided them and the the boxing world with two of the best heavyweight fights in recent years against Toney AND he's paid his sacntioning fees to the WBC twice.

The WBC are wankers, filthy, corrupt lowlife scum.

Take your emotion away from this topic, and you can clearly see, that peter has entered a sport, and division that has rules, and regulations. And it clearly states that

Championship Defense Obligations.

a) Voluntary Defense Obligations: All WBC recognized champions must defend their title at least two (2) times a year. Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense, as follows:

i) any of the top ten (10) rated contenders;

ii) upon a majority vote of the Board of Governors, any boxer rated from 11 to 19 positions;

iii) a champion or a top-10 rated boxer of another immediate lower or higher weight division, subject to the majority vote of the Board of Governors;

iv) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors; and

v) another boxing organization’s champion recognized by the WBC, upon majority vote of the Board of Governors.
Now, I can understand the frustration because peter has fought 2 times to get this shot, But no one cares that vitali was the champ, and did the honorable thing and retired the belt instead of hold on to it, and fight to keep it while he got better. He let someone else take it, and run with it….
Not only that, but WBC holds the right to choose between the two options here, the number 1 contender, or a heavyweight champ that has retired, and then came back… I.E

Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout. If a mandatory challenger had already been appointed by the WBC, the winner of the special bout will then face the mandatory challenger without an intervening contest.

Now if you want to challenge whether or not vitali is legendary, that’s up to , and the can be a debate for another day. But, peter isnt fighting blind, and if he doesn’t know these rules, or like them… He can either pick a different sport…OR WAIT if he is told to. Not to mention that a fight between Vitali and Oleg would be huge GLOBALY, a lot bigger and samuel peter could ever make it.

[Bx730NY]

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4618-pete...o-maskaev.html

Peter better watchout for what he wishes for, he just might get it.....the opportunity that is....the only reason he was even up for a shot is because of the horrible state of the hw division....Vitali is twice the fighter Peter is....and let's face it...a cut was the only thing standing in the way of Vitali getting lewis's belt outright....

Whatever Peter's ability or lack of the fact is that he worked to get his shot. He fought in a world title eliminator for the chance to become Maskaev's mandatory.

He won.

The WBC didn't like it so they made him fight the match again.


He won again.

The WBC still didn't like it so now they are giving a retired former champ HIS (Peter's) shot?

That is just corrupt, plain and simple.

Peter must surely have a case against the WBC for this. He has wasted an entire year of his career fighting for the right to be the WBC mandatory, he's provided them and the the boxing world with two of the best heavyweight fights in recent years against Toney AND he's paid his sacntioning fees to the WBC twice.

The WBC are wankers, filthy, corrupt lowlife scum.

Take your emotion away from this topic, and you can clearly see, that peter has entered a sport, and division that has rules, and regulations. And it clearly states that

Championship Defense Obligations.

a) Voluntary Defense Obligations: All WBC recognized champions must defend their title at least two (2) times a year. Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense, as follows:

i) any of the top ten (10) rated contenders;

ii) upon a majority vote of the Board of Governors, any boxer rated from 11 to 19 positions;

iii) a champion or a top-10 rated boxer of another immediate lower or higher weight division, subject to the majority vote of the Board of Governors;

iv) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors; and

v) another boxing organization’s champion recognized by the WBC, upon majority vote of the Board of Governors.
Now, I can understand the frustration because peter has fought 2 times to get this shot, But no one cares that vitali was the champ, and did the honorable thing and retired the belt instead of hold on to it, and fight to keep it while he got better. He let someone else take it, and run with it….
Not only that, but WBC holds the right to choose between the two options here, the number 1 contender, or a heavyweight champ that has retired, and then came back… I.E

Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout. If a mandatory challenger had already been appointed by the WBC, the winner of the special bout will then face the mandatory challenger without an intervening contest.

Now if you want to challenge whether or not vitali is legendary, that’s up to , and the can be a debate for another day. But, peter isnt fighting blind, and if he doesn’t know these rules, or like them… He can either pick a different sport…OR WAIT if he is told to. Not to mention that a fight between Vitali and Oleg would be huge GLOBALY, a lot bigger and samuel peter could ever make it.

You keep trying to tell people that they are blinded by their love for a fighter and this and that but you're clearly the one that seems to have a hard on for the Klits. Are they gonna give Peter the sanctioning fees he paid to be mandatory? NO! Are they gonna give Peter his hard training? No! Should he get his title shot NOW? Of course!

Wake up and stop being such a hater. You're starting to sound like Lyle.

[Kev]

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4618-pete...o-maskaev.html

Peter better watchout for what he wishes for, he just might get it.....the opportunity that is....the only reason he was even up for a shot is because of the horrible state of the hw division....Vitali is twice the fighter Peter is....and let's face it...a cut was the only thing standing in the way of Vitali getting lewis's belt outright....

Whatever Peter's ability or lack of the fact is that he worked to get his shot. He fought in a world title eliminator for the chance to become Maskaev's mandatory.

He won.

The WBC didn't like it so they made him fight the match again.


He won again.

The WBC still didn't like it so now they are giving a retired former champ HIS (Peter's) shot?

That is just corrupt, plain and simple.

Peter must surely have a case against the WBC for this. He has wasted an entire year of his career fighting for the right to be the WBC mandatory, he's provided them and the the boxing world with two of the best heavyweight fights in recent years against Toney AND he's paid his sacntioning fees to the WBC twice.

The WBC are wankers, filthy, corrupt lowlife scum.

Take your emotion away from this topic, and you can clearly see, that peter has entered a sport, and division that has rules, and regulations. And it clearly states that

Championship Defense Obligations.

a) Voluntary Defense Obligations: All WBC recognized champions must defend their title at least two (2) times a year. Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense, as follows:

i) any of the top ten (10) rated contenders;

ii) upon a majority vote of the Board of Governors, any boxer rated from 11 to 19 positions;

iii) a champion or a top-10 rated boxer of another immediate lower or higher weight division, subject to the majority vote of the Board of Governors;

iv) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors; and

v) another boxing organization’s champion recognized by the WBC, upon majority vote of the Board of Governors.
Now, I can understand the frustration because peter has fought 2 times to get this shot, But no one cares that vitali was the champ, and did the honorable thing and retired the belt instead of hold on to it, and fight to keep it while he got better. He let someone else take it, and run with it….
Not only that, but WBC holds the right to choose between the two options here, the number 1 contender, or a heavyweight champ that has retired, and then came back… I.E

Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout. If a mandatory challenger had already been appointed by the WBC, the winner of the special bout will then face the mandatory challenger without an intervening contest.

Now if you want to challenge whether or not vitali is legendary, that’s up to , and the can be a debate for another day. But, peter isnt fighting blind, and if he doesn’t know these rules, or like them… He can either pick a different sport…OR WAIT if he is told to. Not to mention that a fight between Vitali and Oleg would be huge GLOBALY, a lot bigger and samuel peter could ever make it.

I'm not arguing that Vitali doesn't deserve a shot he clearly does but only AFTER Sam Peter has had his chance.

He has fought not once but twice for a MANDATORY shot at Maskaev. They have already messed him around once by forcing to beat a fighter he had already beaten to earn his rightful MANDATORY shot at Oleg.

Now after agreeing to a rematch which was disgusting in itself, whether you agreed with the original decision or not, he is know told 'Sorry we stil l don't want to give you your mandatory shot'.

Sam Peter has wasted a year of his life, risked his health and his record, AND paid the WBC money for a right to fight for their title belt.

He could have gone for one of the other belts but he's fought the WBC belt been cheated once already and now they are set to do it to him again.

If Vitali does come back and fight Maskaev I will never have prayed harder for any fighter to lose than Vitali that night.

[Big_Deuce]

You keep trying to tell people that they are blinded by their love for a fighter and this and that but you're clearly the one that seems to have a hard on for the Klits. Are they gonna give Peter the sanctioning fees he paid to be mandatory? NO! Are they gonna give Peter his hard training? No! Should he get his title shot NOW? Of course!

Wake up and stop being such a hater. You're starting to sound like Lyle.

do i like the klitschko's? YES, i think they are great heavyweights, with Great attitudes.
HOWEVER, i will not avoid facts, or questions like you. So do not label me, or compare me to anyone until you yourself stop acting like a "hater"
Has anything i have said, not been fact?
Lets review the past couple days, and see who really has the Hard On for a fighter.
1) Wasnt it you who said, "peter can knock out both Klitschko brothers, on the same night" Yea, thats why he couldnt even do it the first Time EVEN WITH RABBIT PUNCHES
2)You have been asked a question about defending your points, but you refuse to answer them, because there is only 1 truth. And it doesnt fit your arguement so you ignore it
let me recap the question and give you another shot
Wladdy Klitschko
KO'd a Calvin brock in 7
KO’d Chris byrd in 7
And a convincing UD over samuel peter.
Samuel peter
Got schooled, and shown as a one dimensional fighter against Wlad klits
Then KO’d Julius long in 1 ( lmao 14-7)
Then a SD against James toney (which I still question)
Then a UD against James toney

So where does it make the point that samuel peter cant be pushed aside?His biggest name on his resume was a loss to klitschko…
I mean, Klits Beat the friggen guy (peter) what else does he have to do, to be ahead of him in line to fight maskaev??
3)You have said that you were a fan of wlad until he starting Holding and Grabing. now you dont respect him for that, But you never mention the REPEATED rabbit punches by samuel peter. NEVER.
4)Then you also say that if the ref had control of the fight between wlad and peter that peter would of Ko'd him, thas a big joke...a real big joke from a Novice boxing fan.
5) AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE, you also made this comment.
Now that Peter has improved and Wlad knows that, he just wants win the title from Maskaev and then drop it when he's forced to fight Peter as the mandatory.
Biggest crock of shite possible, wlad would go through all the trouble to get the WBC belt, then drop it because he doesnt want to fight a guy HE ALREADY SCHOOLED. Dude, keep watchin the fights, and maybe in a few years try another arguement, because the statements above show that you IF ANYONE have the LUST for a fighter.

[Big_Deuce]

I'm not arguing that Vitali doesn't deserve a shot he clearly does but only AFTER Sam Peter has had his chance.

He has fought not once but twice for a MANDATORY shot at Maskaev. They have already messed him around once by forcing to beat a fighter he had already beaten to earn his rightful MANDATORY shot at Oleg.

Now after agreeing to a rematch which was disgusting in itself, whether you agreed with the original decision or not, he is know told 'Sorry we stil l don't want to give you your mandatory shot'.

Sam Peter has wasted a year of his life, risked his health and his record, AND paid the WBC money for a right to fight for their title belt.

He could have gone for one of the other belts but he's fought the WBC belt been cheated once already and now they are set to do it to him again.

If Vitali does come back and fight Maskaev I will never have prayed harder for any fighter to lose than Vitali that night. Angry

Im sorry to hear that, and i understand what your sayin Bilbo, if theres anyones opinion i respect around here its yours, However, i think i will have to agree to disagree with you.
Vitali klitschko could of held on to that title for along time without ever fighting because of his injuries, but when he couldnt get prepared to fight, he gave it up, he left... he Left the belt that means the most in boxing today. And i believe, the reason why peter is so upset, is because got Beaten up by wlad, imagen what would happen with Vitali, and i think THATS where the problem lies. If vitali gets that shot, Samuel peter will NEVER be the WBC champ. Ever.

[albsur2006]

I think that Vitali getting his shot is fucked up but he did retire as the champ due to injuries so him being able to challenge for his title doesn't piss me off all that much. But the WBC MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST MUST make the winner fight Peter next and before the end of 2007. We can't have Vitali win the championship and then wait around for a year trying to bait Lennox out of retirement. That would be too unfair. It's sad because the world always wants an exciting young guy with power as the world champion and that is Peter. The WBC just wants the sanctioning fees from a Lewis - Vitali rematch.

[Big_Deuce]

GOOD POINT
AND I AGREE 100%
However i dont think that vitali klits would deny peter at all!!! after seeing what his brother did to him, im sure he would love to beat peter convincingly so show he still had it.

[armin]

I can see how peter would be upset, and his fans. I like vitali commin back and don't mind him getting a title shot, but I think it would be better if he let peter have his title shot, and then vitali would be peter's mandatory that he would have to fight, couldn't go do a voluntary defense first or something of that sort. I think if the 2 fight though vitali will beat peter, peter's main weapon against wladdy was power due to wladdys supposedly weak chin, and he couldn't put him down, well vitali has a damned good chin on him so I don't see peter beating him.

[Kev]

I wouldn't be suprised if Peter fought and stopped Vitali.

Vitali, thanks to a courageous showing against Lennox Lewis has been built into an almost mythical figure of heroic proportions both in the media and amongst fans alike.

I don't think he's any better than Wlad, and with a 2 year layoff and a history of injuries I'm not ready to believe he will become the saviour of the division.

And as for his being a former champion it's crap.

He beat Corrie Sanders to win the VACANT title, defended it against the bum of all bums Danny Williams and then retired.

The very idea that he's a great former champion is just ludicrous.

He held the title for less time than Hasim Rahman did