Calvin Brock back!

[Tam Seddon]

against some bum named Ralph West should win really. Does anyone think he could be a champ? He fought well against KLIT!

[Gandalf]

He can be a champ, just gotta keep away from Wlad though...

[Wadeb_21]

He can be a champ, just gotta keep away from Wlad though...

I agree completely. I think with sweet pea training him he will definately be a champ soon. I even think after some more experience he would give wlad a better fight than the first one.

[Wacko3205]

He can be a champ, just gotta keep away from Wlad though...

I agree completely. I think with sweet pea training him he will definately be a champ soon. I even think after some more experience he would give wlad a better fight than the first one.

I hate it that he dropped his other trainer.

They seemed to get along so well & when he generally listened to him he seemed to fair pretty well. I like Brock...but he's not the complete package & I don't think that Sweet Pea will add anything to the pot to strengthen the mix. You either got it...or you don't.

[Tam Seddon]

He can be a champ, just gotta keep away from Wlad though...

I agree completely. I think with sweet pea training him he will definately be a champ soon. I even think after some more experience he would give wlad a better fight than the first one.

I hate it that he dropped his other trainer.

They seemed to get along so well & when he generally listened to him he seemed to fair pretty well. I like Brock...but he's not the complete package & I don't think that Sweet Pea will add anything to the pot to strengthen the mix. You either got it...or you don't.

But surely with more ring experience against the higher fighters i really think training of him would only benefit. Brock dont need to be fighting bums for too long imo. His next fight should for sure be a step up because he is getting older. But with the right oppostion i really think he will get another shot quite soon. I fight with Thompsonwould be good imo. If he fight Thompson i think that would boost him enough so show is worthy of fighting for a title and by doing that he would wipe out one of the bigger names in the devison. Sam Peter-Calvin Brock would be a nice one.

[Wacko3205]

Sam Peter-Calvin Brock would be a nice one.

Yeah...if your'e into watching public executions.

Peter would kill Brock...no if's, and's, or but's about it.

[Gandalf]

Sam Peter-Calvin Brock would be a nice one.

Yeah...if your'e into watching public executions.

Peter would kill Brock...no if's, and's, or but's about it.

At this point I really think so too. Peter is really the improved article.

[Majesty]

Sam Peter-Calvin Brock would be a nice one.

Yeah...if your'e into watching public executions.

Peter would kill Brock...no if's, and's, or but's about it.

Disagree. I think Brock would beat Peter handily. Peter can show a shotgun jab and somne defense against someone who's shorter then him and has to lunge to get to him. But he still loops his punches the same way, I don't think he'd beat Brock.

[spekterscript]

He can be a champ, just gotta keep away from Wlad though...

I agree completely. I think with sweet pea training him he will definately be a champ soon. I even think after some more experience he would give wlad a better fight than the first one.

I hate it that he dropped his other trainer.

They seemed to get along so well & when he generally listened to him he seemed to fair pretty well. I like Brock...but he's not the complete package & I don't think that Sweet Pea will add anything to the pot to strengthen the mix. You either got it...or you don't.

Agreed about Sweet Pea as a trainer. A fighter named Dorin Spivey brought him on as a trainer and his career, which was already in an inverted spin, crashed and burned.

[SweetPea]

Calvin Brock is your typical fringe contender. He will always beat the guys he should beat, but he'll never beat a top heavyweight, like Wlad or Peter. He just doesn't have the weapons to be a true heavyweight contender.

I don't expect the change in trainers to improve anything. I've always been of the opinion that Hall of Fame athletes make horrible trainers/coaches/managers. It's just impossible for them to relate to guys who can't do the things they could do.
Sure, Whitaker was a smart fighter, and there must be tricks of the trade that he could teach a fighter, but so much of what he did was things that you could never teach. I will be surprised if he is successful as a trainer.

I just read today that Gatti may start working with Whitaker as well. I think that one is pretty funny. A trainer who always focused 100% on defense, working with a fighter who only cares about offense.

[Lords Gym]

Calvin Brock is your typical fringe contender. He will always beat the guys he should beat, but he'll never beat a top heavyweight, like Wlad or Peter. He just doesn't have the weapons to be a true heavyweight contender.

I don't expect the change in trainers to improve anything. I've always been of the opinion that Hall of Fame athletes make horrible trainers/coaches/managers. It's just impossible for them to relate to guys who can't do the things they could do.
Sure, Whitaker was a smart fighter, and there must be tricks of the trade that he could teach a fighter, but so much of what he did was things that you could never teach. I will be surprised if he is successful as a trainer.

I just read today that Gatti may start working with Whitaker as well. I think that one is pretty funny. A trainer who always focused 100% on defense, working with a fighter who only cares about offense.

I agree 100% about Brock !


I feel that Whitaker could be a good trainer . I do see what your saying about maybe Pete not having the patience needed to see the job through with less skilled folks. a trainer has to be a father type figure in lot of ways. caring and nurturing inspiring and knowledgeable .. I know Whitaker is inspiring and knowledgeable , but the other I am not so sure .

[superheavyrhun]

Calvin Brock is your typical fringe contender. He will always beat the guys he should beat, but he'll never beat a top heavyweight, like Wlad or Peter. He just doesn't have the weapons to be a true heavyweight contender.

I don't expect the change in trainers to improve anything. I've always been of the opinion that Hall of Fame athletes make horrible trainers/coaches/managers. It's just impossible for them to relate to guys who can't do the things they could do.
Sure, Whitaker was a smart fighter, and there must be tricks of the trade that he could teach a fighter, but so much of what he did was things that you could never teach. I will be surprised if he is successful as a trainer.

I just read today that Gatti may start working with Whitaker as well. I think that one is pretty funny. A trainer who always focused 100% on defense, working with a fighter who only cares about offense.

Yeah, you're right on the money, because when he came up against Klitschko he found himself out of his depth, against a fighter who was his superior and he didnt really have many ideas or Plan B's and C's to deal with him. To be honest, I don't think that many of today's great fighters will bother turning into trainers because they've got the big bucks already.

[El Kabong]

Sam Peter-Calvin Brock would be a nice one.

Yeah...if your'e into watching public executions.

Peter would kill Brock...no if's, and's, or but's about it.

I don't think so....I think Calvin's defense and good short punches would trouble Sam Peter.

They are both good fighters though

[Lords Gym]

Sam Peter-Calvin Brock would be a nice one.

Yeah...if your'e into watching public executions.

Peter would kill Brock...no if's, and's, or but's about it.

I don't think so....I think Calvin's defense and good short punches would trouble Sam Peter.

They are both good fighters though

I think it comes down to Peter's explosiveness. I don't think Brock could handle Peters power. I don't see Calvin hurting Peter. Peter has that Ray Mercer, David Tua type neck and build ,

A good chin at Heavyweight is positive factor.. it keeps you in the fight when its going tuff.

Brock does not really roll with the shots per say , Brock takes them flush on, I don't see a positive outcome for Brock when this happens.

[Tysonbruno]

Brock is done he can't win a world title