Is boxing in a chockhold?

[Taeth]

I'm looking and besides a few fights at SMW, Pacquaio, and the welterweight division I see any truly exciting fights, and I don't see any huge matchups occuring. Pacquaio can save the sport, but I can only see him doing it, unless ODLH continues to fight.

[SweetPea]

Boxing doesn't need to be saved.

What's a chockhold?

[Taeth]

*chokehold.

Are you sure it doesn't? UFC made way more money last year, and destroyed any ppv yearly records boxing ever had. UFC names are starting to become way more household than boxing.

[SweetPea]

UFC made way more money last year, and destroyed any ppv yearly records boxing ever had.

Do you have any links with specific stats to back this up? Because I've heard several people say this, but no one ever has any numbers.
ESPN had a segment last week where they tried to show this, but their data was completely flawed, since it only showed HBO PPV revenues, which is just a portion of boxing revenue. It didn't have Showtime, regular HBO non-PPV fights, etc.

UFC names are starting to become way more household than boxing.

I still doubt this. I'm a huge sports fan, and I didn't know the name of any UFC fighters until a few weeks ago when i saw Chuck Lidell on Entourage.
I'm not saying that a lot of boxers are household names, because they're not, but the average person on the street doesn't know any UFC fighters.

[boozeboxer]

Why would ODLH's old ass save the sport?? Frankly I hope he retires. I want real matches like Judah/COtto and Hatton/Castillo. If people arent excited about these matches/...........the general public can't be pleased and it doesn't matter. We have a great thriving sport and I don't even care if the average Joe watches.

[The Boxer]

there are plenty of great match ups to be made south of the heavyweight division. once the heavyweights get there shit together the casual fans will be right back.

PBF DLH numbers proves that with the right promotion that you can still atract people to the sport.

[Galaxy]

there are plenty of great match ups to be made south of the heavyweight division. once the heavyweights get there S*** together the casual fans will be right back.

PBF DLH numbers proves that with the right promotion that you can still atract people to the sport.

cc bro I agree with what your saying. I don't think the heavyweights will bring back the casual fans though, I think the best fighting the best is going to do it!!!

[The Boxer]

plus there need to be more boxing on free tv. espn 2 friday night fights is one of the best things for boxing right now. they normaly have entertaining fights and good boxing converstion. it would be better if it came on ABC.

there seems to be more MMA on free tv these days.

[eagle]

Boxing has plenty going on.
Look at all the great fights at 147.
Kessler v Calzaghe if it happens.
130 still has great possible matchups.
160 is strong.

The next year could be great.

[The Boxer]

there are endless possiblys at 147 right now.

[Taeth]

Why would ODLH's old a** save the sport?? Frankly I hope he retires. I want real matches like Judah/COtto and Hatton/Castillo. If people arent excited about these matches/...........the general public can't be pleased and it doesn't matter. We have a great thriving sport and I don't even care if the average Joe watches.

I don't even know a person who isn't a boxing fan who knows who Cotto, Judah, and Hatton even are.

Most people know LIddell, Couture, Rich Franklin.

[Taeth]

UFC made way more money last year, and destroyed any ppv yearly records boxing ever had.

Do you have any links with specific stats to back this up? Because I've heard several people say this, but no one ever has any numbers.
ESPN had a segment last week where they tried to show this, but their data was completely flawed, since it only showed HBO PPV revenues, which is just a portion of boxing revenue. It didn't have Showtime, regular HBO non-PPV fights, etc.

UFC names are starting to become way more household than boxing.

I still doubt this. I'm a huge sports fan, and I didn't know the name of any UFC fighters until a few weeks ago when i saw Chuck Lidell on Entourage.
I'm not saying that a lot of boxers are household names, because they're not, but the average person on the street doesn't know any UFC fighters.

What do you mean its been said by ppv that UFC broke all the records with over 200 million buys this last year.

[amat]

UFC got like 220 million with 14 shows in 2006. HBO PPV got 176 million with 10 shows. They average out to be around the same, which I think is pretty much expected. And like SP said, that didn't figure in to anything but the HBO PPVs. And the UFC did not release the individual numbers for every show.

[Taeth]

The problem is that all the good athletes are going to other sports. Imagine Lebrong James as a heavyweight or Michael Vick as a light heavyweight, or Allen IVerson as a middleweight.

[Taeth]

I don't see how HBO could have gotten 176 million buys when Oscar Dela Hoya vs. Mayweather only got 2.1 million and times that by 10=21 million