WLAD THE IMPALER

[Dark Lord Al]

Wlad Klitchko is a great athlete , and i cant help wonder how good he could be if he had a beter chin and stamina.
Hes got power , great jab , pretty much the lot , but he is exciting even in loosing fights,
how do u think he would fare againest the chamos of yester year ?
ALI / FOREMAN . HOMLES ETC ?

[diamonddavestafford]

Wlad Klitchko is a great athlete , and i cant help wonder how good he could be if he had a beter chin and stamina.
Hes got power , great jab , pretty much the lot , but he is exciting even in loosing fights,
how do u think he would fare againest the chamos of yester year ?
ALI / FOREMAN . HOMLES ETC ?

He would get his ass beat, that's how he would fare. Wladimir is the best fighter of his time; that time being right here and now when the division is in shambles. A better way of defining him would be to say that he is the best of the bums. Ali would have eaten him alive scientifically and used his speed to confuse the bigger man, who would look clumsy in the ring with a boxing master as Ali. Young Foreman would have completely obliterated Klitschko inside of two rounds, just how he did Ken Norton and Joe Frazier. Holmes might have had a tougher time just due to Wlad's size; and really this is his greatest gift...his huge stature and reach give him the ability to just stick his jab out and keep nearly anyone (these days) away from him for the duration of the fight. I mean he rarely threw anything off of the jab the whole time against Brewster; when he does he throws a hell of a straight right, but I only saw a few of them. Most of it was just sticking out the long jab again and again and then holding as soon as his opponent got too close; the usual Wlad Klitschko blueprint.

People say Mayweather is boring to watch. At least he creates distance and stays away with speed, footwork and great combinations. Klitschko creates distance simply because he has 8 foot long arms and so he just reaches out and stands behind his jab and holds. I was completely bored watching his fight against Brewster tonight. It looked like Lamon did not want to be there after the first round and was content to bob and weave WAY too far out and just take the Klitschko jab to the face all night.

Wladimir Klitschko needs to get in there and be more aggressive bottom line if he wants to win over fans, especially as a heavyweight. As for today's big men, he stands at the top of the list; though i think Sam Peter will beat him severely if and when that fight takes place. So I mean, make no mistake. Don't compare this guy to the greats just yet. He has a long way to go and a lot more he has to prove until that can take place IMO. Remember, Larry Holmes had the same problem, but at least he stayed champ in a division devoid of legitimate threats and competition for over nine years. You can't say that for Klitschko yet because he has already lost to Brewster and Corrie Sanders in knockout disasters that never would have happened if he was the great fighter people pump him up to be.

[sexydarin]

i'm not a superfanboy of ali, but he was a hell of a lot more entertaining than most fighters today.

[diamonddavestafford]

i'm not a superfanboy of ali, but he was a hell of a lot more entertaining than most fighters today.

Understatement of the...century?

[Dark Lord Al]

indeed

[LBSCFC]

i think english tv have given up on the heavyweight division. they never show the heavyweight title fights now which says it all

[WelshDevilRob]

Wladimir Klitschko is a poor excuse for a Heavyweight Champion. He's the best of a very bad bunch.

[Sugar_Shaw]

Klitschko vs. Ali=

Round 1= Ali moves around the ring with big WLAD lumbering after him. Ali not really throwing, just moving while Klitschko throws his big jab but only occasionally catching him. Ali trys to attack but is caught with a strong jab which takes him back onto the ropes. Klitschko trys to move in but struggles to slow down Ali. Round ends, round 1 won by Klitschko.

Round 2= Klitscko still trust his jab to stop Ali but Ali is now wise to it and moves inside. He continouassly moves inside and outside banging waya with right crosses and left hooks. Wlad end the round dazed and confused. Round 2 won by Ali.

Round 3= Ali does the same agin, Klitschko can't do anything to Ali who dances around. Ali repeatdly bangs hots of the cranium of the ukrainian. Ali looks excellent and continously outfoxes Klitscko.

Round 4= Klitscko changes up his tactics and tries to clinch and get inside. For the first minute this is sucsessful, he leans on Ali slowing him down and restricting his movement but then Wlad throws a wild uppercut, Ali parries it and throws a wickd combination which floors the Ukrainian. Wlad gets up and takes a standing 8-count. He trys to cover up and last the round but he can't Ali puts Wlad down again. Wlad gets up again but looks very wobbly, referee stops the bout late in the fourth.

[Preme]

Wlad is a very very good boxer...

He has had a few set backs, but so did guys like lennox lewis, people don't give him enough credit IMO, just because the devision he is in is seriously lacking, doesn't mean Wlad is at thier level...

[ICB]

Wlad Klitchko is a great athlete , and i cant help wonder how good he could be if he had a beter chin and stamina.
Hes got power , great jab , pretty much the lot , but he is exciting even in loosing fights,
how do u think he would fare againest the chamos of yester year ?
ALI / FOREMAN . HOMLES ETC ?

Holmes Ali and Foreman would all beat Wlad no question in my mind.

[Fire]

Wlad has great ring generalship.. He has a devastaing jab.. hooks off the jab better than any heavy in decades... he would give all 3 a run for their money...

Klitchko also has great speed and power...

I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE STANDARD BULLSH@T OF NO CHIN, NO STAMINA, HOW MANY OF HIS BOXING MATCHES HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN SEEN OF HIS ...2 OR 3.... he HAD defence problems that led to getting hit flush by two of the hardest hitters in boxing(brewster, sanders) since then he took the hardest shots peter had and still beat his ass down 9 out of 12rds and if you think stamina is his issue, wlad was at his strongest at the end of the fight against peter...
so disproves the myths of no stamina, no chin, no heart... peter just wiped the floor with toney ... and klitchko would beat peter even worse the second time around..

do you remember when lewis got ktfo by rachman... does that mean he has no chin....

everyone on here keeps saying the same ole bullsh@t that you heard from someone else.... the same recylcled nonsense that you think makes you look lilke you know what your talking about...

the heavy weights or in shambles??... this generation's HWs are so pitifull??..

this is part of a recent article by: A BOXING EXPERT NOT SOME KID IN ENGLAND OR PENNSYLVANIA................if you really want to know whats up in the heavy weights read below...

BOXING SCENE By John Hively

“We are told that the heavyweight crop which now stands out is as expert and as promising as the peach crop in Alaska. All along the line there is a moaning and a groaning, all because the critics have got it into their heads that the passing of Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis means the practical death of heavyweight boxing. To one who has seen them come and go this is really a dandy joke.” Legendary promoter Tex Rickard wrote those words in the November 1928 issue of Ring magazine, only the names he mentioned were Dempsey and Tunny. But the same thing he wrote then can be said of the current heavyweight class.

The experts have it all wrong. Instead of the weakest crop of heavyweights in the history of the sport, the big boys of today are talented and they make up one of the deepest and most talented pool of heavyweights the sport of boxing has seen since the middle of the nineteen-seventies.

Gone are the days when a heavyweight could expect to move into the top ten without ever having beaten a legitimate top-ten contender. That means you won’t see guys like Monte Barrett, Andrew Golota and Mac Foster enter the ranks of the current top ten. Those guys and several others entered the rankings in years and decades past, but politics aside, they wouldn’t make it in today’s division based on their lack of achievements in the squared circle, as in days gone by.

The top current top six or seven are an especially talented group of fighters, but the depth of the division really means that anyone in the top fifteen, and perhaps the top twenty, can be deserving of a top ten ranking; and we haven’t that type of depth since Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Joe Frazier were at or near their primes. As of yet, nobody is suggesting the current crop has an all-time great among them. Nowadays, they still aren’t as deep as that division of thirty-four years past, but the depth of talent compares favorably, if not downright better, than any period of time since then

[ICB]

Wlad has great ring generalship.. He has a devastaing jab.. hooks off the jab better than any heavy in decades... he would give all 3 a run for their money...

Klitchko also has great speed and power...

I AM SO SICK OF HEARING THE STANDARD BULLSH@T OF NO CHIN, NO STAMINA, HOW MANY OF HIS BOXING MATCHES HAVE YOU GUYS EVEN SEEN OF HIS ...2 OR 3.... he HAD defence problems that led to getting hit flush by two of the hardest hitters in boxing(brewster, sanders) since then he took the hardest shots peter had and still beat his a** down 9 out of 12rds and if you think stamina is his issue, wlad was at his strongest at the end of the fight against peter...
so disproves the myths of no stamina, no chin, no heart... peter just wiped the floor with toney ... and klitchko would beat peter even worse the second time around..

do you remember when lewis got ktfo by rachman... does that mean he has no chin....

everyone on here keeps saying the same ole bullsh@t that you heard from someone else.... the same recylcled nonsense that you think makes you look lilke you know what your talking about...

the heavy weights or in shambles??... this generation's HWs are so pitifull??..

this is part of a recent article by: A BOXING EXPERT NOT SOME KID IN ENGLAND OR PENNSYLVANIA................if you really want to know whats up in the heavy weights read below...

BOXING SCENE By John Hively

“We are told that the heavyweight crop which now stands out is as expert and as promising as the peach crop in Alaska. All along the line there is a moaning and a groaning, all because the critics have got it into their heads that the passing of Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis means the practical death of heavyweight boxing. To one who has seen them come and go this is really a dandy joke.” Legendary promoter Tex Rickard wrote those words in the November 1928 issue of Ring magazine, only the names he mentioned were Dempsey and Tunny. But the same thing he wrote then can be said of the current heavyweight class.

The experts have it all wrong. Instead of the weakest crop of heavyweights in the history of the sport, the big boys of today are talented and they make up one of the deepest and most talented pool of heavyweights the sport of boxing has seen since the middle of the nineteen-seventies.

Gone are the days when a heavyweight could expect to move into the top ten without ever having beaten a legitimate top-ten contender. That means you won’t see guys like Monte Barrett, Andrew Golota and Mac Foster enter the ranks of the current top ten. Those guys and several others entered the rankings in years and decades past, but politics aside, they wouldn’t make it in today’s division based on their lack of achievements in the squared circle, as in days gone by.

The top current top six or seven are an especially talented group of fighters, but the depth of the division really means that anyone in the top fifteen, and perhaps the top twenty, can be deserving of a top ten ranking; and we haven’t that type of depth since Muhammad Ali, George Foreman and Joe Frazier were at or near their primes. As of yet, nobody is suggesting the current crop has an all-time great among them. Nowadays, they still aren’t as deep as that division of thirty-four years past, but the depth of talent compares favorably, if not downright better, than any period of time since then

Lewis proved having a chin with wars vs Vitali + Mercer getting hit flush by Bruno and Mason whenever Wlad get hits flush he always seem to be put down or wobbled and shortly stopped after.

[Fire]

wlad fought mercer too... and smoked his a$$...

lewis got f***ing destroyed against rachman... peter, sanders, brewster ALL hit harder than rachman...

wlad took good shots from brock and walked through them..

peter is one of the hardest hitters ever and WLAD TOOK EVERYTHING PETER HAS and beat his a$$ 9 out of 12 rounds.... after taking them shots... THAT WAS A WAR AND PETER HITS EASILY AS HARD AS VITALI AND MERCER...

anyone would get wobbled or floored by a flush sanders, peter, brewster shot...those 3 have f***ing crushed several champs...

it has more to do with wlad's defence than chin which wlad has dramtically improved his defence..

h*ll wlads dramatically improved his offence too... with the new lead straight right, wlad is DANGEROUS

[Taeth]

Its hard to say even current Wlad without the chin or stamina would do against Ali, Holmes, etc. I think they would beat him, but his height and jab would match theirs IMO. He has so much more power behind his jab than Ali, and even more than Holmes that they would eventually become hesitant to throw theirs. Ali had a lot of trouble with boxers and I think Wlad would give him a hard time.

[Punisher136]

Calling it the deepest class since the 1970's right now is an absolute joke. The 90's had much better fighters than the 00's (Now there's just Wlad and he has no competition except for his brother and some respectable fighters who are getting older). People with 25-2 records today are a joke (owen beck anyone?). Now, if you look out on the horizon there are a lot of good up and comers which could lead to a very very interesting heavyweight picture in the near future.

With wlad only being 30 you'd have to assume he's got atleast 6-7 more years left in him (Vitali might even stay around for that period of time depending on injuries but 7 is the absolute max for him). There's a large amount of up and coming fighters who are more active than the boring slobs of today (ruiz and his jab and grab will be a thing of the past as well as valuev's freak show aspect) and a majority of them have high ko ratios suggesting they have a lot of power. Calling it the best since ali right now is a bit premature but in a few years, you'll have a very solid case.