haislett's boxing book

[iceman]

anyone read this and experiment with it? just curious, the stance section was just glanced at but seemed very very narrow and unbalanced...maybe i didn't read like i should any commets?

[Trainer Monkey]

Its a basis,but it needs lots of building upon,if thats all you use youll get killed but come on the books 60 years old

[iceman]

and the basics are older than that...was just wondering if anyone used that style of stance anymore...course you gotta be more fluid...

[Trainer Monkey]

and the basics are older than that...was just wondering if anyone used that style of stance anymore...course you gotta be more fluid...

Theres so much thats happened since then,like I said its something you can start wit,but staying with it is asking for it.
Trust me,I know trainers who still use the thing like the holy freaking bible,Ive never seen one of their fighters rise above also rans at Rough N Rowdies
Kinda sad really

[iceman]

well i was looking at it for its history and some ideas on basics don't get me wrong, i think boxing in general needs to come into at least the 19 th century...also what do you think about the drying out of the fighters? that is a curiousity, never heard that theory for speeding up a fighter...

[Trainer Monkey]

well i was looking at it for its history and some ideas on basics don't get me wrong, i think boxing in general needs to come into at least the 19 th century...also what do you think about the drying out of the fighters? that is a curiousity, never heard that theory for speeding up a fighter...

Ill be honest,I havent looked at the thing in next to forever.But,if he was talking about taking a fighter in to the ring dry,he's dead wrong,and if he was talking about cutting liquids he's not only practically wrong,he's chemically wrong,a cramping fighter isnt a fast one.
Ill go back and check,I dont know if I can even find my copy,but I think Chris N. posted links to the individual chapters

[Trainer Monkey]

Crap,its a pay site
Its in chapter 11 isnt it
Can someone post that chapter so I can re-read it,my book collection is all over the freaking place right now,and for the life of me,I cant remember what he wrote

[Sharla]

One of my ex trainers used to ban drinking fluids in training. Even in summer (which can get pretty hot here) we were not allowed. He had a theory that it was bad for your kidneys or heart or something. I know a Chinese woman who thought that too because she was taught that in her high school track team (and she's in her late 20s) - it's dangerous not to drink when you're dehydrated. i don't know what ever made anyone think otherwise but these old beliefs still persist in some places!

[FeuerFrei]

One of my ex trainers used to ban drinking fluids in training. Even in summer (which can get pretty hot here) we were not allowed. He had a theory that it was bad for your kidneys or heart or something. I know a Chinese woman who thought that too because she was taught that in her high school track team (and she's in her late 20s) - it's dangerous not to drink when you're dehydrated. i don't know what ever made anyone think otherwise but these old beliefs still persist in some places!

Splutter!! Wha??!!
Wow!! I had no idea there where still some Neanderthals out there who thought that.
Good heavens, not drinking fluids is what's bad for your kidneys. One of my former co-workers has a son who plays football in college. While he was in high school, he did not drink enough water during practice one hot day and after practice, he collapsed in the hall way leaving after getting a shower. Everyone else had already gone home including the coaching staff. Luckily, there was one teammate left who was looking to bum a ride home off him who found him collapsed with salt crystallized on his skin. If his teammate had not found him and got help as quickly as he did, he would have gone into complete and fatal renal failure. Luckily he recovered fully, and now is very good about keeping himself hydrated.

[Sharla]

Yeah you're right CC FeuerFrei

A chiropractor I used to see told me his daughter trained with the Australian Institute of sport as a rower. As part of training they had to go out hiking or something on a hot day and didn't take enough water.

She became so dehydrated and overheated she suffered muscle meltdown and has never been the same since. Once they got her to the hospital he muscles kept melting down because apparently once that starts it's very hard to stop and she was lucky to survive at all.

That happened to a girl in her twenties trained by professionals to compete at a high level (not sure when but I gather not more than 5 or 10 years ago)- they just didn't plan for the basics and she has no hope of competing at that level ever again! I think if I was her I'd want to charge them with negligence or something.

Scary stuff! Your friends son was very lucky to be rescued in time to make a complete recovery. I didn't even know that kind of muscle melt down existed until I was told by my old chiro - I never realized it could cause such permanent damage!

[Scrap]

When you think of what water consists off its stupid practice, the bodys makeup is 65% water. I remember a time when one of mine was taking creatine ordered by a psyhio he was seeing without my knowledge Boxed won but was not his usual self and after the fight was feeling bad. Got it out of him what he had been doing, the pyshio was there he got a bollocking. Rushed him to the hospital under durress, to find if he had left it another 4 hours he would have been dead, crazy

[Sharla]

Ouch! Was he taking loading doses of creatine? Could it be that bad with small doses of creatine if you put your body through something like the stress of a competition?

It's scary how hit and miss things can be when taking advice from health professionals - difficult to tell the difference between a good one and a bad one when you're not an expert in the area yourself!

[Scrap]

Creatine is okay in small doses. The problem is understanding the sense of feel, with creatine an inbalance occurs in the senses

[Sharla]

So is that because it dehydrates you or because it adds water to your muscles? Would ordinary dehydration do the same thing to your senses. I mean I am pretty bad at remembering to drink water and some days which are warmer than others might have me mildly dehydrated - could that be the cause of me having random uncoordinated days?

[Scrap]

It gives you a chemical inbalance which is unnatural. The body produces creatine overuse puts strain on the reproduction organs. There was a very interesting article biochemistry of exercise 89 worth a read, it frightened the life out of me. plus ability to feel is affected by chemical inbalance