How Good was Lennox Lewis Really????

[DaxxKahn]

I have always been a fan of Lennox. IMO he could have been champion in any era he was that good. I also believe that when in proper shape ( I say that because we all know Lennox had a habit of looking past guys and coming in out of shape a bit) he had the ability to stand in with any greats of the past and if judging by prime vs prime at peak shape he would have beaten most of them...

IMO Lewis beats Patterson, Liston, Frazier, Marciano, Holmes all in prime....His biggest opp would have been Louis, Ali, Foreman and a prime Tyson....

Lewis has wins over every top HW in his era and avenged both losses in fantastic fashion, Both losses were flukes IMO as well more due to Lennox looking past his guy then anything...

With HW boxing being what it is I have just been thinking about this lately and how you don't realize how much you appreciate a fighter until he is gone. Lewi8s left no doubt who the REAL HW champion was and who the best in the division was....

I think Lewis was always under appreciated as a champion and will go down in history pretty much as Holmes where it is not until long after his retirement do the critics and fans start to mention him as one of the ATG and compare guys to him...

Just curious on everyone's opp of him as a fighter

[Beanflicker]

Lewis is def an ATG hw in my books, at the very least a top 10 HW (maybe even cracking the top 5). I'd pick him against the smaller champs of yesteryears like Marciano, Louis, ect. But I think Holmes and Ali would clean his clock.

[RozzySean]

Not sure he beats Holmes, but prime Holmes is the most underrated HW imho. It's so hard to compare the best of one era to the best of another other than by judging how strong or week an era is, and you can't blame a fighter if their aren't good fights out there. Lewis was clearly the best of his era, and there was some good talent around then. Lewis beat everyone that mattered during his run. It wasn't as strong as the late 60's and 70's, but it was definately stronger than today. The golf great Bobby Jones once said "all you can do is beat who is around when you are around" and that's exactly what Lennox did. He didn't duck anybody, beat every quality HW of his era, and avenged his losses.

[GAME]

Mike Tyson and Holyfield are favourites of mine but to be fair I think Lennox is better than both . He would have beaten Ali too IMO

Lennox is possibly the greatest heavyweight ever both statistically and actually

[frozensolid_702]

Lewis is an all time great to residents of the UK.




Here in America, he's regarded as just another over-rated heavyweight.

[RozzySean]

Lewis is an all time great to residents of the UK.




Here in America, he's regarded as just another over-rated heavyweight.

That's a silly generalization. Real boxing fans know the difference, anywhere. Overall, he's probably rated higher in the UK than in the US, but that doesn't mean he's considered "just another overrated heavyweight" in the US.

[Spicoli]

I have to admit I never was a big fan of Lewis's but he most certainly is a top heavy p4p.I picked Razor Ruddock On that Halloween night too many years ago and was left with my jaw on the ground.absolute and total destruction.He was so uncoordinated and almost clumsy back then but really developed into great talent.
I dont see him Beating a prime Holmes and Imo He lost the rematch with Holyfield by a smidge.
I still wonder how that match with a Prime Bowe would have turned out but Bowe did a chump move and tossed the Belt into the trash can.Lewis Beat his azz In the amateurs though Tk2 Lol.

[Deanrw]

A definite Top 10 Greatest as far as I am concerned.

His only real weakness was his motivation against lesser opponents. When he was motivated or had something to prove, he was an incredible force to reckon with.

My only regret is that he never got a chance to fight Bowe as a pro, but that is not his fault. He definitely would have been Motivated for Bowe and Bowe knew that also.

[Scrap]

Ive never been a fan Daxx, Probably because I spent a lot of time round him. But looking back I got it wrong he was a great fighter make no mistake on his day he would have held his own with most certainly top ten all time.

[CutMeMick]

I have always been a fan of Lennox. IMO he could have been champion in any era he was that good. I also believe that when in proper shape ( I say that because we all know Lennox had a habit of looking past guys and coming in out of shape a bit) he had the ability to stand in with any greats of the past and if judging by prime vs prime at peak shape he would have beaten most of them...

IMO Lewis beats Patterson, Liston, Frazier, Marciano, Holmes all in prime....His biggest opp would have been Louis, Ali, Foreman and a prime Tyson....

Lewis has wins over every top HW in his era and avenged both losses in fantastic fashion, Both losses were flukes IMO as well more due to Lennox looking past his guy then anything...

With HW boxing being what it is I have just been thinking about this lately and how you don't realize how much you appreciate a fighter until he is gone. Lewi8s left no doubt who the REAL HW champion was and who the best in the division was....

I think Lewis was always under appreciated as a champion and will go down in history pretty much as Holmes where it is not until long after his retirement do the critics and fans start to mention him as one of the ATG and compare guys to him...

Just curious on everyone's opp of him as a fighter

Daxx I agree with a lot of what your saying actually most of it.
The only parts I disagree with are when you put parenthesis and or make comments about the loses being flukes.
If you set those kind of standards/judging techniques about wins and loses then you can do the same for all of the top Heavys and you'd never really match then equally cause an excuse will alway come up for a loss or bad performance.
Take Tyson for example how many excuses can be made for his loss to Buster? I can think of 10 and god knows theres more.
I also think Lennox was a great Champ. I also think Lennox would have been Champ during any era like you I think he could fight the all time best Heavys and beat some and loose to some but I won't go into too much detail on that.
Is Lennox top 10 all time?
My answer is yes.

[DaxxKahn]

I have always been a fan of Lennox. IMO he could have been champion in any era he was that good. I also believe that when in proper shape ( I say that because we all know Lennox had a habit of looking past guys and coming in out of shape a bit) he had the ability to stand in with any greats of the past and if judging by prime vs prime at peak shape he would have beaten most of them...

IMO Lewis beats Patterson, Liston, Frazier, Marciano, Holmes all in prime....His biggest opp would have been Louis, Ali, Foreman and a prime Tyson....

Lewis has wins over every top HW in his era and avenged both losses in fantastic fashion, Both losses were flukes IMO as well more due to Lennox looking past his guy then anything...

With HW boxing being what it is I have just been thinking about this lately and how you don't realize how much you appreciate a fighter until he is gone. Lewi8s left no doubt who the REAL HW champion was and who the best in the division was....

I think Lewis was always under appreciated as a champion and will go down in history pretty much as Holmes where it is not until long after his retirement do the critics and fans start to mention him as one of the ATG and compare guys to him...

Just curious on everyone's opp of him as a fighter

Daxx I agree with a lot of what your saying actually most of it.
The only parts I disagree with are when you put parenthesis and or make comments about the loses being flukes.
If you set those kind of standards/judging techniques about wins and loses then you can do the same for all of the top Heavys and you'd never really match then equally cause an excuse will alway come up for a loss or bad performance.
Take Tyson for example how many excuses can be made for his loss to Buster? I can think of 10 and god knows theres more.
I also think Lennox was a great Champ. I also think Lennox would have been Champ during any era like you I think he could fight the all time best Heavys and beat some and loose to some but I won't go into too much detail on that.
Is Lennox top 10 all time?
My answer is yes.

I use the word fluke Mick because neither Rahman or McCall really beat Lennox,,,Lennox beat Lennox.....He did not bother to prepare and came in wayy out of shape...for Rahman 1 he quit training weeks b4 the bout to film a 2 sec role in Oceans 11,12 or 13 cant remember which was which.........

I agree with what you stated about ttyson and douglas....I should have worded it different

A definite Top 10 Greatest as far as I am concerned.

His only real weakness was his motivation against lesser opponents. When he was motivated or had something to prove, he was an incredible force to reckon with.

My only regret is that he never got a chance to fight Bowe as a pro, but that is not his fault. He definitely would have been Motivated for Bowe and Bowe knew that also.

I should have worded my fluke sentence more like that...Lewis lost more due to lack of motivation going into those fights then anything...

Ive never been a fan Daxx, Probably because I spent a lot of time round him. But looking back I got it wrong he was a great fighter make no mistake on his day he would have held his own with most certainly top ten all time.

I can understand that scrap....when something is around you a lot you tend not to look right at it....I have the exact same scenario with Hector Camacho Sr......My family has known him since he was an amatuer and spent time around him and he never shuts up especially about himself...he also has no respect for ANYONE but himself....But whan I look at his career now it is hard to deny he had talent

[Mr140]

I think Lennox is up their in the list he beat Evander in both just the second was closer and the first well Evander lucky they gave him the draw because he clearly lost that one when wins over everyone in his era he is something that this division now wish that they had him

[yoitsdan]

Lewis is an all time great to residents of the UK.




Here in America, he's regarded as just another over-rated heavyweight.

If anything he is severely underated in Britain. Most people would think of Frank Bruno first if they thought of a 90's British Heavyweight. I put it like this, take any HW from the history of boxing and put him in with a prime Lennox Lewis. He has a chance against any of them. If only there were time machines!

[CutMeMick]

Lewis is an all time great to residents of the UK.




Here in America, he's regarded as just another over-rated heavyweight.

Can you say shit stirrer?

[Mr140]

Can you say knows nothing about boxing and is butt buddies with Juhda but o well what can you do