Will Jermain Taylor Retire If He Loses To Pavlik Again ??

[ICB]

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[Majesty]

No. He's too young. But i really don't see where he can win if he doesn't beat Pavlik in the rematch. He can't do anything at 168, Kessler and Calzaghe would both beat him. Maybe he should fight Lacy

[leftylee]

I can't see him retiring personally I feel he will move up to sup-mid and at least he can say he was once the holder of the 4 belts plus RING belt.

[ICB]

I agree guys but i just don't see what he can do if he loses to Pavlik again ?? i mean what top guys can he beat at Supermiddleweight ?? even at Middleweight Abraham and Sturm won't come to USA so those match ups won't happen so what else ??

[leftylee]

I agree guys but i just don't see what he can do if he loses to Pavlik again ?? i mean what top guys can he beat at Supermiddleweight ?? even at Middleweight Abraham and Sturm won't come to USA so those match ups won't happen so what else ??

As he's never fought at sup-mid it's hard to say who he can beat, If he does get beat by Pavlik again which IMO he will I feel he should fight a journeyman at sup-mid then go for someone like Miranda, Pascal, Green, Andrade, winner of Lacy-Manfredo, Berrio etc who are all decent names.

[ICB]

I agree guys but i just don't see what he can do if he loses to Pavlik again ?? i mean what top guys can he beat at Supermiddleweight ?? even at Middleweight Abraham and Sturm won't come to USA so those match ups won't happen so what else ??

As he's never fought at sup-mid it's hard to say who he can beat, If he does get beat by Pavlik again which IMO he will I feel he should fight a journeyman at sup-mid then go for someone like Miranda, Pascal, Green, Andrade, winner of Lacy-Manfredo, Berrio etc who are all decent names.

I disagree Taylor should give Pavlik a rematch if Taylor wins thats the least he could do considering Pavlik is giving him one and plus the trilogy would be huge.

[BoomBoom]

He had sucess at middlweight mostly because of his size and stregnth. At super middleweight he will look very average and not do so well imo.

[Cortez The Killer]

I have the impression that Taylor's confidence isn't on sturdy ground. Not from the Pavlik fight either, although I'm sure that didnt help.

He is always so tense in these big fights and wastes so much energy. That is all mental..and I have seen it ever since I first watched Taylor in the first Hopkins fight. Granted bhop is pretty much always calm and in control, but against guys like Ouma and Spinks Taylor should have appeared to be the "alpha male" in the ring...and he didn't.

I think he is a likable person, and I am glad to see he has been successful. He has good physical attributes , but I don't think he has or ever will have the true mentality of a champion.

So I think if Pavlik knocks Taylor out again, that will be the last we will see of him. But if it is a decision loss I think Taylor will continue to fight...because financially it would make sense and boxing is his livelihood..but I would not expect him to make any big things happen.

[LEGION]

I have the impression that Taylor's confidence isn't on sturdy ground. Not from the Pavlik fight either, although I'm sure that didnt help.

He is always so tense in these big fights and wastes so much energy. That is all mental..and I have seen it ever since I first watched Taylor in the first Hopkins fight. Granted bhop is pretty much always calm and in control, but against guys like Ouma and Spinks Taylor should have appeared to be the "alpha male" in the ring...and he didn't.

I think he is a likable person, and I am glad to see he has been successful. He has good physical attributes , but I don't think he has or ever will have the true mentality of a champion.

So I think if Pavlik knocks Taylor out again, that will be the last we will see of him. But if it is a decision loss I think Taylor will continue to fight...because financially it would make sense and boxing is his livelihood..but I would not expect him to make any big things happen.

Well his confidence most likely isn't on sturdy groud, ESPECIALLY because of the Pavlik fight. That was the only time he had been put and kept down, so even though his confidence in himself was on a thin wire before Pavlik, I'd bet he got knocked right off that wire after the affair with Kelly. Either way, like ICE says, I don't really see what he can do if he loses again to Pavlik. I guess if he moves up he can make some great fights with Miranda and Kessler, and maybe Green or Andrade. But eventually Pavlik will move up and beat him silly again{assuming Pavlik beats him at 166}. Gatekeeper? Maybe... I don't see JT accepting a gatekeeper role, but if he can't stay at 160 and successfully reclaim his belt, then he has to shine at 168. I don't want to see him retire because I have always liked him, and really want to see him have a go with Miranda at least.

[El Kabong]

What kind of fucking question is that?!?!?!

JT has a lot to prove and can fight on up to 175 I am certain!

[SweetPea]

I don't thinK Taylor would retire, but I could easily see Taylor's career going downhill pretty fast if he loses again to Pavlik.

Taylor's probably going to move up to 168, and he doesn't figure to be the type of guy who can effectively move up in weight. Taylor's biggest strength has always been that he's been bigger stronger and longer than his opponents at 160. As he moves up, the size advantage won't be the same anymore, since he'll be fighting bigger guys. And Taylor hasn't shown the skills to outbox a bigger stronger opponent.

[SigmaMu]

If Taylor get's knocked the phuk out again, he just might have to think about retiring.

[El Kabong]

If Taylor get's knocked the phuk out again, he just might have to think about retiring.

That fight wasn't as one sided as people are making it out to be....what if it ended in the 2nd round when Pavlik was hurt....everyone would have said "DAMN JT IS A BAD MOFO!"

He can beat Pavlik if he has his mind right.

I am begining to think that having Manny as his trainer put too much pressure on him to succede...when you have trained the best and you pick up a young guy like Taylor and tell him he's the next Tommy Hearns that's a lot of pressure.

Jermain seems like he's the kind of guy who works best when he's relaxed and he needs to find a trainer that gets him there

[Deanrw]

I think many of you are underestimating how much Taylor still offers. He has the ability that 99% of fighters dream of having.

Even if he loses to Pavlik again, he will still have a future in the sport, can win another alphabet title and make good paydays. He may even outlast Pavlik in the sport due to Pavlik's willingness to trade blows every fight.

Pavlik is a wrecking machine, but with each passing fight, he is also more vulnerable. Remember he took a licking himself in his last fight. If any current Middleweight can beat him in his next fight, it is Taylor.

[ICB]

I think many of you are underestimating how much Taylor still offers. He has the ability that 99% of fighters dream of having.

Even if he loses to Pavlik again, he will still have a future in the sport, can win another alphabet title and make good paydays. He may even outlast Pavlik in the sport due to Pavlik's willingness to trade blows every fight.

Pavlik is a wrecking machine, but with each passing fight, he is also more vulnerable. Remember he took a licking himself in his last fight. If any current Middleweight can beat him in his next fight, it is Taylor.

But thats the thing though he can't win another belt at Middleweight because Sturm and Abraham won't be willing to come to USA and Supermiddleweight champs like Bute even though he only just won the belt is very skilled and Mundine is also very skilled it will be hard for Taylor to win a belt should he lose to Pavlik in the rematch.