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    Default FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Frank Warren Breaks Down Mayweather-Hatton


    By Mark Vester

    In his recent FRANKLY SPEAKING column, promoter Frank Warren seemed to lean towards Floyd Mayweather Jr., giving the opinion that Ricky Hatton is at a disadvantage on Dec. 8 in Las Vegas. Although he wants Hatton to pull it off, he sees a lot of hurdles for Hatton to overcome in the fight.

    Warren took a look at Hatton's two biggest wins, over Kostya Tszyu and Jose Luis Castillo, and felt neither of them were going to beat Hatton in the first place. In Tszyu, Warren saw an ageing fighter who there for the taking, and Castillo was a shot fighter looking for an exit.

    "Hatton scalped Kostya Tszyu to confirm he belongs with the best, but I always fancied him to win because I felt the Aussie was there to be beaten. Injury prone, ageing and inactive, Tszyu was always vulnerable against a fighter who could fight on the inside with a high work rate. He was made for Hatton," Warren said. "That was probably Hatton's last really good showing, Ricky himself said prior to the Castillo fight his performances were well below par as he failed to look the part when he beat Juan Urango, Luis Collazo and Carlos Maussa in three consecutive world title fights for three different belts. And while everyone is raving about his last win, over former world lightweight champion Jose Luis Castillo, he was a shot fighter. Hatton caught him with a great body shot, but Castillo definitely looked for a way out."

    Warren says Mayweather is the first world class fighter, currently in their prime, that Hatton has faced in his entire career. If Hatton is not up in the fight by the sixth-round, Warren says he'll be in trouble.

    "The Hitman won't find things so easy against Mayweather, the first world class fighter in his "prime" that he has faced. Unless he has a lot of movement when he comes forward, he'll get picked off by the Pretty Boy, who is an excellent sharp-shooter with lightning fast hands and footwork. And I've noticed recently that Hatton tends to hit and hold when he's on the inside, rather than really let the punches go as he used to," Warren said. "Will that work against Mayweather? Unless he jumps on him in the first three or four rounds and really dominates, he'll find himself being out-boxed and completely out of the fight. This isn't a contest that Hatton will come into late on - if he isn't on top by the sixth, he's in trouble."

    Hatton is ready to work Mayweather's body, but Warren feels Hatton is the one who is more prone to body punishment and thinks the welterweight limit of 147 will come into play. If not for the big payday, Warren doesn't think Hatton would have moved up to 147.

    "The American has been a welterweight for the last two years, and is comfortable at 147 pounds, so much so that he even went up to light-middleweight to tackle Oscar De La Hoya. And despite Hatton's struggle to make 140 pounds, he is only really a light-welterweight. Those extra seven pounds could make a hell of a difference. I offered to make Hatton-Mayweather when Floyd was still a light-welterweight and Ricky was promoted by me, but it was turned down," Warren said. "After the Collazo fight Hatton's trainer, Billy Graham, said he was against the fight and has always said that he would never allow Hatton to fight against a genuine welterweight, but is happy to let him face Mayweather because he started out at 130 pounds. But let's get real, how can you compare Collazo with Mayweather? And Mayweather's not been a super-featherweight for six years, and he's boxed at welterweight since stopping Sharmba Mitchell in November 2005. Win, lose or draw, Hatton is still a light-welter."

    "The real reason he's stepping up? Because he's going to get paid big money, the same reason why he was prepared to walk away from promoter Dennis Hobson and allow De La Hoya's Golden Boy to promote the fight. Mayweather is a hurtful puncher who can also take a good shot, and although both boxers have been down before, I think Hatton may be the more vulnerable of the two, especially to the body."

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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Boringly predictable.

    "i offered to make the fight

    they didn't want it.

    Hatton's not as good as he used to be

    he'll get beat"


    And the real reason for the fight - MONEY. Never
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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Boringly predictable.

    "i offered to make the fight

    they didn't want it.

    Hatton's not as good as he used to be

    he'll get beat"


    And the real reason for the fight - MONEY. Never
    Do you feel his technical analysis has any merit?

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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    I'm pretty sure that I have the same sentiments about Frank Warren as most do...so I really don't need to begin on what a douche bag great promoter he appears to be...that being said...Frank's doing what a lot of people are with this match up...thinking & speaking with their emotions.

    Warren's bitter as shit that Hatton's gone...whether or not he admits to it or not.

    That being said...this statement...I pretty much agree with...but has he forgotten about Collazo?

    If not...then this statement is pretty much hitting the nail on the head.

    "The Hitman won't find things so easy against Mayweather, the first world class fighter in his "prime" that he has faced. Unless he has a lot of movement when he comes forward, he'll get picked off by the Pretty Boy, who is an excellent sharp-shooter with lightning fast hands and footwork."

    Good jobby job Fwank. I pretty much agree witcha...for once.
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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Quote Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Boringly predictable.

    "i offered to make the fight

    they didn't want it.

    Hatton's not as good as he used to be

    he'll get beat"


    And the real reason for the fight - MONEY. Never
    Do you feel his technical analysis has any merit?
    I agree Floyd will win this fight.

    I wasn't having a pop at you for posting Warrens view.
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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    It really pisses me off when people say Floyd has been knocked down, HE'S NEVER BEEN LEGITIMATELY KNOCKED DOWN!

    Taking a knee because you broke your hand on somebody's face isn't being knocked down, his opponent didn't do S***, it was just that he broke his hand.

    The closest he's ever come to being knocked down was when his hand grazed the canvas against Zab Judah but it wasn't given so imo he's never been knocked down.

    It annoys me though because I've heard Hatton, Warren and Amir Khan all say that Mayweather has been knocked down and HE F****** HASNT!

    Anyway rant over you may continue.

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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    I bet Warren's tune would be different if he was still promoting the Hitman......


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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Looks like Warren is not as stupid as I thought he was

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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Just another person who will be cleaning the egg off of his face come Dec 8th. I love all this, there'll be no back tracking come Dec 9th when you all look ridiculous like you did when Hatton faught Tszyu. The 2 faced-ness of Frank Warren is complelely laughable.
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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Big' (Yoits)Dan McCarthy
    Just another person who will be cleaning the egg off of his face come Dec 8th. I love all this, there'll be no back tracking come Dec 9th when you all look ridiculous like you did when Hatton faught Tszyu. The 2 faced-ness of Frank Warren is complelely laughable.
    If Hatton beats Mayweather i will give him all the credit in the world you won't see sour grapes from me.

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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Big' (Yoits)Dan McCarthy
    Just another person who will be cleaning the egg off of his face come Dec 8th. I love all this, there'll be no back tracking come Dec 9th when you all look ridiculous like you did when Hatton faught Tszyu. The 2 faced-ness of Frank Warren is complelely laughable.
    If Hatton beats Mayweather i will give him all the credit in the world you won't see sour grapes from me.
    Same from me mate cc if Mayweather wins my sig changes for 6 months I think.
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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Big' (Yoits)Dan McCarthy
    Just another person who will be cleaning the egg off of his face come Dec 8th. I love all this, there'll be no back tracking come Dec 9th when you all look ridiculous like you did when Hatton faught Tszyu. The 2 faced-ness of Frank Warren is complelely laughable.
    I like that you have such belief in Hatton even though the odds are clearly against him. CC for that. But you can't really disagree with anything in the article.

    "(Tszyu was) Injury prone, aging and inactive, Tszyu was always vulnerable against a fighter who could fight on the inside with a high work rate."

    and.."That was probably Hatton's last really good showing"

    Those are more facts then they are opinions.

    I will be very surprised if Hatton wins. I wont be disappointed, but I will be surprised.

    The only thing I am rooting for is that this fight does not last the distance. Which is pretty much up to Floyd.

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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Quote Originally Posted by dasamm
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Big' (Yoits)Dan McCarthy
    Just another person who will be cleaning the egg off of his face come Dec 8th. I love all this, there'll be no back tracking come Dec 9th when you all look ridiculous like you did when Hatton faught Tszyu. The 2 faced-ness of Frank Warren is complelely laughable.
    I like that you have such belief in Hatton even though the odds are clearly against him. CC for that. But you can't really disagree with anything in the article.

    "(Tszyu was) Injury prone, aging and inactive, Tszyu was always vulnerable against a fighter who could fight on the inside with a high work rate."

    and.."That was probably Hatton's last really good showing"

    Those are more facts then they are opinions.

    I will be very surprised if Hatton wins. I wont be disappointed, but I will be surprised.

    The only thing I am rooting for is that this fight does not last the distance. Which is pretty much up to Floyd.
    I disagree with a lot of the article. Before the Castillo fight he didn't say anything about Castillo being shot, he actually said Castillo could have too much power for Hatton. Also I thought that Hatton had a good showing against Urango, he only dropped 1 round on my card and although it wasn't exciting, it was dominant(Remind you of anyone else? ) .
    Also the reason for a lack of quality opposition has a lot to do with Hatton's legal wranglings with Frank Warren himself, he fails to mention that he stuck him with 2 lawsuits, the first nearly had the Carlos Maussa fight scrapped, and the 2nd lead to Hatton being forced between a fight with Luis Collazo or another 3 months on the shelf after Juan Lazcano pulled out. Also he fails to mention that the first Mayweather fight was offered at a ludicrous 85-15 split for Mayweather on just 7 weeks notice. Chop Chop Corley took that fight instead. Just very dirty politics being played by Frank Warren, I could pick the bones out of that article all day. The man is a spin doctor. Also watch round 3 of Hatton v Castillo. He didn't look shot to me, and the part about the Tszyu being Hatton's last good showing. I think the best is yet to come
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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Read this in the paper the other day..I can't fucking wait for this fight.
    Although I agree with a lot of what he says, theres no denying he's bitter as fuck and wouldn't be saying shit if Hatton was under his banner.

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    Default Re: FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

    Quote Originally Posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Boringly predictable.

    "i offered to make the fight

    they didn't want it.

    Hatton's not as good as he used to be

    he'll get beat"


    And the real reason for the fight - MONEY. Never
    Do you feel his technical analysis has any merit?
    Don't mean to drag this up but no, Waren's technical analysis doesn't mean anything, he's a business man not a trainer.
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