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    Default Question on Scoring

    Do the judges submit the scores to a scorekeeper at the end of each round (thereby locking in their scores)? Do the judges have the ability to go back and change a score on a previous round? Do the rules vary by sanctioning body?

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    Default Re: Question on Scoring

    Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

    The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

    So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

    I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

    Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

    I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

    The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

    So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

    I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

    Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

    I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.
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    I am surprised they keep track at all.........I figured they just came up with a number at the end of the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    I am surprised they keep track at all.........I figured they just came up with a number at the end of the fight.
    Sometimes I wonder if they roll dungeons and dragons dice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

    The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

    So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

    I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

    Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

    I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.
    I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

    In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

    Am I wrong?

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    I can't see why they haven't come up with marriage of systems between amateur and pro, learning more about how bad it often is. The amateur system is fairly good, but has probs with the amount of button hitting and having it score correctly. But basing the comp. system more towards the pro type scoring I could see the puters working decent with a little thought. It might not even hurt to have some sort of independant jury score the scorers in some way. And if some judge is wayyy off the mark...say like in the 5th round and he's obv biased...one of the members can go paddle him in the back of the head. lol Well, maybe that is a stretch...but I do think it needs a serious look and could use some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

    In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

    Am I wrong?
    That's what I thought.

    I saw Lawrence Cole collecting a paper from each judge in between rounds Saturday. Then he handed them over to someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

    The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

    So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

    I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.


    Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

    I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.
    I think you're mistaken here, Mick. That doesn't make sense and would lead to constant accusations of corruption. How could a judge justify changing the score after a round has past? He has to concentrate on scoring the immediate round and the ones that follow.

    I'm pretty certain the scores get collected at the end of each round and given to the master scorekeeper, he then writes the three judges score on the official scorecard.

    Google some official scorecards and i'm certain you'll notice the handwriting is the same for all three judges
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

    The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

    So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

    I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

    Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

    I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.
    I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

    In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

    Am I wrong?
    That's what I observed too... I believed the score from each judge is collected by the ref after each round...

    There's still a problem area though, the tabulation done by the consolidator... I guess we had this problem in the Barrera-Juarez first fight... Wrong math...
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    individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.
    If this is true, as most everyone has said (and of course this is better than having the judges keep their scorecards till the end of the fight)....... then WHY does it sometimes takes so long to get the decision? Does it really take up to 5 minutes to add 10 points to one fighter's score and 9 or 8 to the other?



    And is it any wonder people become all sorts of suspicious when it takes 5-10 minutes to get the decision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Judges have official scorecards with emblems and titles and names.

    The scorecards are filled out as the fight goes on at the end of the fight the cards are turned in to the commision and the cards are added.

    So to answer your question no, judges do not turn in scoring on a round by round basis. I believe as long as he has the card with him he can change the scoring of any round on the card.

    I know theirs been cases where a judge said he scored a round wrong and the score was amended.

    Theirs been cases where the commision has even added wrong and they've announced the wrong winner.

    I've seen plenty of judges scorecards but I don't think I've ever seen one with crossouts on it or anything like that.
    I think they turn in a score at the end of each round.

    In between rounds, you see the ref walk to each side of the ring, lean thru the ropes, and get handed something. I thought one of the ref's jobs is to grab the scorecard from each judge in between rounds and hand them to the commission.

    Am I wrong?
    No you are right judges turn in their score at the end of every round and then at the end of the fight they are tallied by the commision.

    But I've also seen what I stated done in events that I've been to.
    Where judges don't turn in scores at the end of the round but turn in the entire scorecard at the end. Guess I could have been more clear on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.
    If this is true, as most everyone has said (and of course this is better than having the judges keep their scorecards till the end of the fight)....... then WHY does it sometimes takes so long to get the decision? Does it really take up to 5 minutes to add 10 points to one fighter's score and 9 or 8 to the other?



    And is it any wonder people become all sorts of suspicious when it takes 5-10 minutes to get the decision?
    Def. and then like I said they have added the points wrong and announced the wrong winner.
    Then they add the totals again and get the right winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    individual scorecards get collected at the end of each round and handed to the ref who in turn gives it to an official who if needed at the end of a contest will tally up the scores.
    If this is true, as most everyone has said (and of course this is better than having the judges keep their scorecards till the end of the fight)....... then WHY does it sometimes takes so long to get the decision? Does it really take up to 5 minutes to add 10 points to one fighter's score and 9 or 8 to the other?



    And is it any wonder people become all sorts of suspicious when it takes 5-10 minutes to get the decision?
    Def. and then like I said they have added the points wrong and announced the wrong winner.
    Then they add the totals again and get the right winner.
    LOL.... it's like Moe, Larry and Curly out there.

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