Chavez Jr. v. Duddy

[Rantcatrat]

It would be Chavez Jr.'s first big test and the fight would probably sell a lot of tickets in New York or Los Angeles.

Upon first glance, and taking into account their common opponent, Matt Vanda, I like Duddy to win.

[Kev]

If its 12 rounds Duddy knocks him out, a 10 rounder Chavez might just about hold on to the final bell, either way Chavez is losing.

As for it being Chavez's first big test, it is supposed to be, but he's found most of the journeyman and club fighters he's fought so far to be big tests.

He barely won at the weekend against some unknown who looked like he should be fighting about 3 weight classes below him.

If he steps up and fights a real junior middleweight he's getting battered. Kirkland would smoke him inside 3 rounds

[RozzySean]

Duddy will put a horrible beating on Chavez. I hope this happens.

[holmcall]

As Duddy gets more savvy about defense, his offensive arsaenal seems to suffer. He no longer seems to have that one-punch pop he used to have. I see Jr. testing him with hard left hooks to the liver. If Duddy can withstand them, he might win. But my money is on Junior because he is what he is, while Duddy has become something else from what he used to be. And if anyone can figure out what I just said, God bless him.

[Chris24-7]

Oh cmon Chavez is a flake, he will crumble under Duddy, a decent fighter

[JonnyFolds]

As Duddy gets more savvy about defense, his offensive arsaenal seems to suffer. He no longer seems to have that one-punch pop he used to have. I see Jr. testing him with hard left hooks to the liver. If Duddy can withstand them, he might win. But my money is on Junior because he is what he is, while Duddy has become something else from what he used to be. And if anyone can figure out what I just said, God bless him.

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I think.. I know.. I want to be blessed by God.
I agree. Come-forward fighters who are taught too much defense (old dog new tricks) can give up some rounds trying to apply tactics they are not accustom..
See: Katsidis, Miranda, Hatton (at times)

[ElTerribleMorales]

didn't i just make this same exact thread yesterday?

[littlebif]

Iam not sold on either of them but it would be an exciting fight.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Iam not sold on either of them but it would be an exciting fight.

honestly even though he fought him twice id say that Chavez Jr handled Vanda easier than Duddy did, at 154 i'd say Jr would have a good chance to win the fight

[Rantcatrat]

didn't i just make this same exact thread yesterday?

Sorry bro. Unintentional if so.

honestly even though he fought him twice id say that Chavez Jr handled Vanda easier than Duddy did, at 154 i'd say Jr would have a good chance to win the fight

Sure, but it took him two tries. On his first try, Duddy beat Vanda easily almost every round but one and has been in with tougher competition.

[ElTerribleMorales]

didn't i just make this same exact thread yesterday?

Sorry bro. Unintentional if so.

honestly even though he fought him twice id say that Chavez Jr handled Vanda easier than Duddy did, at 154 i'd say Jr would have a good chance to win the fight

Sure, but it took him two tries. On his first try, Duddy beat Vanda easily almost every round but one and has been in with tougher competition.

but Duddy also after basically winning every round got rocked veeeeeeery badly in the final round and it really gave me the feeling that if Vanda would have pressed a bit more he would of made the fight a lot more competitive and no doubt Duddy has taken on better opposition but it's been mostly against fighters who are pretty much passed it, and even in those fights he didn't dominate, like his fight against Campas, Duddy doesn't have an iron chin, so it's really a pretty even fight if you think about it

[Violent Demise]

I see Chavez losing pretty soon. He's not Super Star material. I don't think he's title holder material either. But he won't lose to Duddy. Next to Duddy Chavez is a Super Star. Why people think Duddy is any good is beyond me. This guy got his ass beat by Walid Smichet and 124 year old Yory Boy Campas. Good thing for him the judges were in Arum pocket. So he was able to keep his 0. But if he fights Chavez he loses it. He'll even lose his 0 to Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I see Chavez losing pretty soon. He's not Super Star material. I don't think he's title holder material either. But he won't lose to Duddy. Next to Duddy Chavez is a Super Star. Why people think Duddy is any good is beyond me. This guy got his ass beat by Walid Smichet and 124 year old Yory Boy Campas. Good thing for him the judges were in Arum pocket. So he was able to keep his 0. But if he fights Chavez he loses it. He'll even lose his 0 to Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.

i pretty much agree with you, except the Sr. thing lol, but i mean sometimes i feel bad for the guy (Jr), i mean he's not great, but he's a decent fighter in his own right, and people expect him to be his dad, he's not JCC so just get off his back, i think he'll have a decent career just nothing out this world

[Chino]

He's not Super Star material. I don't think he's title holder material either. But he won't lose to Duddy. Next to Duddy Chavez is a Super Star. Why people think Duddy is any good is beyond me

Exactly! Chavez Jr. is no Super Star material, he just has the last name, that's it. He has no experience at all compared to other guys (we have talked about this many times already) so I guess we can say that Chavez Jr. is barely a journeyman who people somehow see as a Super Star and demand him to be like one. If he didn't had "Chavez" in his name, maybe people wouldn't be demanding a lot from him or hating him.

[Violent Demise]

He's not Super Star material. I don't think he's title holder material either. But he won't lose to Duddy. Next to Duddy Chavez is a Super Star. Why people think Duddy is any good is beyond me

Exactly! Chavez Jr. is no Super Star material, he just has the last name, that's it. He has no experience at all compared to other guys (we have talked about this many times already) so I guess we can say that Chavez Jr. is barely a journeyman who people somehow see as a Super Star and demand him to be like one. If he didn't had "Chavez" in his name, maybe people wouldn't be demanding a lot from him or hating him.

I don't feel sorry for Chavez. Cuz shiit goes both ways. It's true what you say. The kid is damned by his last name. Greatness is required from him cuz his last name is Chavez. Even though he doesn't have it in him. With out it, your right he's just a journeyman. But without that last name there is no way Jr. pulls in the pay checks he pulls in. And there is no way he's televised as much as he is. Jr pretty much benifits and is hurt by his last name.