Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 57

Thread: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

Share/Bookmark

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    163
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    855
    Cool Clicks

    Smile Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.

    Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez - Bad Left Hook
    Last edited by pacman79; 05-27-2009 at 05:47 PM. Reason: link
    Champions aren't made in gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Puerto Rico
    Posts
    7,933
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1356
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by pacman79 View Post
    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Washington
    Posts
    2,614
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1027
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacman79 View Post
    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
    You're such a hater dude!

    It's all just talk.... and none of it really "means" or "proves" anything......

    None of those guys you listed are maga draws as far as PPV numbers go. Money is a primary issue and will continue to be a primary issue.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    877
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1146
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    I don't see why he Roach is now not interested since Mosley or Cotto aren't going for the "banana in the tailpipe" catchweight. Pac fought DLH at 147. Roach is a crafty dude and he is not interested in fighting the elite welterweights at welterweight. He is a former boxer and he knows it all too well that at an age beyond 30 there will be detriments to the body if you try to get down in weight too much. He wanted to get Mosley down in weight danger. Stop the nonsense and fight a top guy at 140. Bradley, Campbell, or even Judah. Unless, he wants to wait on PBF and chance an ugly negotiation over money and weight go through.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    3,276
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2590
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacman79 View Post
    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
    You're such a hater dude!

    It's all just talk.... and none of it really "means" or "proves" anything......

    None of those guys you listed are maga draws as far as PPV numbers go. Money is a primary issue and will continue to be a primary issue.
    nobody is even talking about money. its about pac fighting welterweights at welterweights plain n simple

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Melbourne Australia
    Posts
    2,705
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1211
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    If that is what Pacquiao thinks then i agree with him, it's PBF or Marquez.
    Cotto should rematch Mosley before either one of them fights Pacman in the future, and let's not forget Pacquiao is no Welterweight!
    Before the end of the year i would like to see Pac V PBF and Cotto V Mosley 2
    It should happen.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    18,672
    Mentioned
    40 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacman79 View Post
    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
    You're such a hater dude!

    It's all just talk.... and none of it really "means" or "proves" anything......

    None of those guys you listed are maga draws as far as PPV numbers go. Money is a primary issue and will continue to be a primary issue.
    But David Diaz was, right? That was a PPV fight. Why can't Bradley or Campbell be one?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Washington
    Posts
    2,614
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1027
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    I'm not even going to try to debate with you, just read the rebuttal yourself.

    Insider Notebook: Vazquez Returns, Pacquiao Debate - Boxing News

    Pacquiao Afraid: Don't Think So

    This innuendo about Manny Pacquiao being afraid of African American fighters has been making its way around for the past two weeks, yet it was news to Freddie Roach.

    "That is the first time I have heard about it," Roach, Pacquiao's trainer, said Wednesday morning via telephone from his Wild Card Gym in Hollywood.

    Roach was told this came from trainer John David Jackson, who is African American.

    "John David Jackson. That is the most absurd statement I have ever heard in my life," Roach said. "Fighters aren't afraid of anybody. Managers make the decisions, not fighters. He must have a guy he wants to make some money with, that's all."

    Indeed, Jackson trains Nate Campbell, an African American and former lightweight champion who recently lost his title on the scales.

    Roach went on to note that most of the top fighters in the divisions in which Pacquiao has been fighting have been Mexican. But he also pointed out a few other things.

    For one: "We knocked out (Lehlohonolo) Ledwaba. He's African. How much more African can you get? He's a real African, not like John David Jackson, who is an American African."

    Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, was reached by telephone on Wednesday in Florida. He is there watching Miguel Cotto train for his June 13 welterweight title defense against Joshua Clottey. Arum was incensed that Jackson would suggest for one second that Pacquiao is afraid to take on African American fighters.

    "Yeah, he is afraid to fight African Americans because he fought a bigger Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton, which generated tremendous amounts of money," Arum said. "When people start this race s**t, it is unbelievable. You could say the same thing aout Mayweather, right? I don't see him fighting ("Sugar" Shane) Mosley. He fought (Oscar) De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton in his last two fights, so it's clear he is afraid of black fighters, right?

    "Of course, he isn't. It's nonsense and to start this bulls**t.... People use this ethnic stuff in such an evil way that it makes me disgusted. Every time something happens that is not to a person's liking, instead of saying this should happen or that should happen, they go to the race card. Any race card."

    Arum used a political analogy to hammer home his point.

    "Did (John) McCain say he didn't get elected president because he was white?" Arum said. "I guess he could have. It is stupid. Anybody who would give any credence to what Jackson said is a moron."

    Arum also pointed to President Barack Obama's nomination this week of Sonia Sotomayor to become the first Hispanic justice on the Supreme Court. Arum suggested some critics are bound to say she was nominated because she is Hispanic.

    "She was chosen because she is a great judge," Arum said.

    Furthermore, Roach said, not only has Pacquiao been fighting the best in the world, he has his eyes on Mayweather and Mosley, both of whom are African American.

    There have been reports that Pacquiao was not interested in Mosley. But when Roach was asked if he had advised Pacquiao to wait until the result of the Juan Manuel Marquez-Mayweather fight July 18 before making a decision as to whom he would fight next, Roach brought Mosley's name into the mix.

    "We're not so much waiting," Roach said, "but the best fighters that are out there for us are Floyd Mayweather, (Miguel) Cotto and Mosley. Those are the mega-fight guys."


    Pacquiao has fought once at welterweight. He just knocked out Hatton at junior welterweight. Mayweather, Cotto and Mosley are welterweights.

    "I can't think of anyone at 140 (junior welterweight) that would draw like those guys," Roach said. "And Manny wants to fight the biggest fights out there. Once we find out who wins those fights between Cotto and his guy and Marquez and Mayweather, I think we will be able to make a better decision at that point."

    Roach took a shot at Mayweather when sizing up Pacquiao's next possible opponent.

    "The easiest fight out of those three, in my opinion, is Mayweather," Roach said. "The other two guys are way stronger, way more physical. Look at Mayweather; he struggled against De La Hoya and his fight with Hatton was competitive.

    "And Manny killed both of those guys. I don't care what the excuses are. A fact is a fact. He (Mayweather) won a split decision against De La Hoya. We didn't lose a round to either."

    Actually, De La Hoya was given one round by one of the judges before he did not answer the bell for the ninth round of his fight against Pacquaio in December. And to say Hatton was competitive against Mayweather might be a bit of a stretch, though it did take Mayweather 10 rounds to stop Hatton, eight rounds longer than it took Pacquiao.

    Roach was asked if he is of the mind that Mosley would be the most difficult nut to crack of the three.

    "What he did with Margarito was great," Roach said of Mosley's ninth-round stoppage of Margarito in January in Los Angeles. "But remember, after Manny beat Oscar he told me he wanted to fight Margarito next because he knew he was beatable.

    "Manny bet on Mosley (against Margarito); he won a lot of money that night. Mosley is fast, he is aggressive, he is strong and it looks like he would be the toughest fight out there. But then you have to take into consideration that Cotto beat him. Both are bigger than Mayweaether, size-wise. Mayweather can make 140 easy. He is just lazy."

    As for Arum, he said he believes Pacquiao's next opponent could be either Cotto or Mosley. Presumably, Pacquiao will next fight in October.

    "I think Mayweather would not really be available this year and I think Mosley or Miguel would be good candidates provided they got down to the catch-weight (of 144 pounds)," Arum said.

    Why, Arum was asked, will Mayweather not be available this year?

    "Because he's Mayweather," Arum said. "And, obviously, we're not going to wait until after the Marquez fight. There have been no discussions whatsoever with the Mayweather people at this particular point and as far as I know nobody is pushing the Mayweather fight."

    Arum said the final decision will rest with Pacquiao and Roach.

    And what if Clottey beats Cotto? Clottey, also promoted by Arum, is of African descent.

    "Pacquiao won't fight Clottey, Arum said. "He is afraid of black fighters."
    Last edited by fan johnny; 05-28-2009 at 03:15 AM.

  9. #9
    XaduBoxer Guest

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
    You're such a hater dude!

    It's all just talk.... and none of it really "means" or "proves" anything......

    None of those guys you listed are maga draws as far as PPV numbers go. Money is a primary issue and will continue to be a primary issue.
    But David Diaz was, right? That was a PPV fight. Why can't Bradley or Campbell be one?
    If Team Bradley or Team Campbell can offer PAC a $12M guaranteed purse, I think PAC will take the fight...

    PAC's guaranteed purse history:

    vs. David Diaz = $3M
    vs. Hoya = > $10M
    vs. Hatton = $12M

    So PAC's next fight should be at least with $12M guaranteed purse... The winner of PBF-JMM fight IMO can offer that kind of money to PAC...
    .

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    3,645
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1120
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Well i woudl say Mosley over all has done alot more at Welter then Mayweather has at 147 teath i cant see any wins that are better then Molseys are enless you want to point them out for me i guess. As for the fight i say Mosley would be a harder fight then Pac to be honest or atleast as hard i just think i Mosley best wins are on par if not better then Mayweathers are only diffrence is that he beat a prime Oscar and not the part time fighter he turned out to be later Oscar Dela Hoya the promoter.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    6,706
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1515
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacman79 View Post
    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
    Wouldn't Mosley and Cotto be pussies for fighting Pacquiao or Mayweather because neither of them are legit welterweights?

    I think PAcman should fight Cotto, and I still see it happening, lets wait for June 09 first.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    8,466
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1409
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacman79 View Post
    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
    Wouldn't Mosley and Cotto be pussies for fighting Pacquiao or Mayweather because neither of them are legit welterweights?

    I think PAcman should fight Cotto, and I still see it happening, lets wait for June 09 first.
    This thread is going to be just like the Mayweather won't fight welterweights ones.

    Does it really fucking matter? Roy Jones wouldn't fight Vitali Klitschko. Big deal.
    http://instagram.com/jonnyboy_85_/

  13. #13
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    163
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    855
    Cool Clicks

    Cool Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    I can't see it happening but since Pac and Cotto share a promoter,a double bill would be mighty.

    Pac v Floyd
    Cotto v Mosley 2

    No undercard needed I'd pay big bucks just for these 2
    Champions aren't made in gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Tropical Paradise
    Posts
    26,813
    Mentioned
    536 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2036
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pacman79 View Post
    Manny Pacquiao is supposedly "not interested" in fighting either Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto on October 17 (the date of his next bout), but instead is interested only in facing the winner of the July 18 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao is favoring Mayweather in that bout.
    It's interesting because you can look at it one of two ways. The biggest fight is not Pacquiao-Mosley or Pacquiao-Cotto, period. It is Pacquiao versus the Floyd-JMM winner, and we all know that. Having "no interest" in fighting them, though? He seems set on that October 17 date, which is four months after the Mayweather-Marquez bout and assumedly plenty of time for either man to recover, but what if it's a hard fight? What if the winner isn't ready to go that soon? What then? At that point, Mosley or Cotto become the best opponent.
    The Pacquiao Mania is pretty awesome and totally deserved, but it feels like we're all setting ourselves up for a letdown if he takes a "good" fight but not a great one in October. If he matches up with a guy on the level of Nate Campbell or Tim Bradley or the like (not that either is likely) instead of a Mosley or Cotto, people will complain. He won't be fighting a bad opponent, though. And frankly this is the type of situation you get sometimes with a great fighter. If he wants to fight, he's gotta fight someone, and the best just might not be available at that time.
    But it looks like Mosley will be available. I truly think Freddie Roach and Pacquiao know that's a tough matchup. Mosley is much bigger than Manny at 5'9", and he's still a beast of a welterweight. It's a great fight and one I'd love to see, but I don't think the Pacquiao camp or Top Rank are exactly itching to make that, and for fair enough reasons. I think they absolutely see Manny as a 140-pound fighter save for a special occasion like Oscar or Floyd, where the money is so good that you'd be a fool to pass it up.
    One other thing I was thinking about: It's too bad that the pricetag would be too high, because a Shane Mosley-Zab Judah fight on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard could've been a great idea at this point. It gets Shane in the ring in a should-win fight and there's still some decent name value going on there with Judah. I really wish Mosley would make a fight. Sadly I don't think the "big fights" he wants are coming.
    all this proves is that Manny has no real interest in fighting REAL welterweight fighters while they're in their REAL weight class, he was all over the idea when Roach said 142, but since neither man took the bait, now he doesn't want the fight, i wouldn't say anything bad about Manny if he decided to take on Bradley or Campbell or even Torres, cause he'd be taking on the best at 140, unlike what he did at 135, Mosley and Cotto are both big names, and they both sell fights, so don't think that the money issue is that valid
    I agree 100% with that. Not that I actually BLAME Manny. After all, he's a smart guy (and Roach also) and seems to know that the line has to be drawn somewhere. Eventually, he'd get KTFO'ed by an elite fighter at his natural weight. Too bad, though. Pacquaio-Cotto was starting to sound appealing.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    2,910
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2819
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Pacquiao "not interested" in Cotto or Mosley, only Floyd or Marquez

    That's shame. It would be nice if PAC would take on a tough welterweight. That would really prove something big. But it's too risky.

    But no, he thumps a washed up DLH and a so-so guy like Hatton, and he thinks he's God or something. But we've all seen stuff like this before, many times. Such is boxing.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 28
    Last Post: 02-15-2009, 04:19 PM
  2. Fresh New , " Floyd is escaping Cotto ".....!!!
    By Macho in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 04-27-2008, 02:26 AM
  3. Sulaiman: "Marquez Must Face Pacquiao Next!"
    By El Gamo in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 35
    Last Post: 03-27-2007, 03:09 PM
  4. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-04-2006, 06:16 AM
  5. Replies: 13
    Last Post: 04-28-2006, 03:24 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing