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    When this fight was first made many thought it was an easy fight for Floyd but now the opinions of who will win are becoming more divided but if Mayweather stops marquez surely this is a good result isn't it?? as this is the Man that many feel beat Pacquiao twice whats your opinions on how the win is rated if its a stoppage win?

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    I think most will still say that it is just Floyd beating a smaller guy. Pbf should win really, but if he wins by KO it will be dam impressive cos JMM is a tough guy.

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    If Mayweather wins by stoppage then I think it speaks volumes. But I seriously think he would be going tooth and nail to get a stoppage against JMM. But for the sake of argument, if PBF does stop JMM I am certain people will belittle it with the overstated size advantage. I guess JMM is too little for PBF but Pac isn't. Go figure. But I'm sure neither guy is an easy night for PBF, who is a miniature welterweight.

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    Considering size Marquez is alot closer to Mayweather than Pacquiao was to De La Hoya.

    I'd rather see Mayweather lose to Marquez because I think Marquez makes a Better fight for Pacquiao.

    So what happens if Mayweather beat Marquez? It is expected....

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    When this fight was first made many thought it was an easy fight for Floyd but now the opinions of who will win are becoming more divided but if Mayweather stops marquez surely this is a good result isn't it?? as this is the Man that many feel beat Pacquiao twice whats your opinions on how the win is rated if its a stoppage win?
    I know Mayweather is taller than Marquez,but what about reach advantage,if Mayweather has both then that'll be a major factor.Mayweather has the advantage on foot work and covering up really well.Marquez will test Mayweather when or if he cuts down the ring and corners Floyd.It would be impressive if Mayweather stops Marquez due to the fact that Marquez is game and as tough as old boots!

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    If Floyd stops Marquez, you can't just chalk it up to Floyd beating a blown up lightweight, because Floyd hasn't been knocking many guys out for a long time. He went the distance with guys like Castillo, Sosa, Corley, Zab, etc.

    If he stops Marquez, it'll have to be because Floyd fought a very good fight and landed a ton of clean punches.

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    I think Floyd chose Marquez because he believes he'll stop him. An impressive stoppage gets one up on Pac and bodes well for him in the negotiations for their fight.

    I expect the natural size advantage to be quite noticeable once they're in the ring.
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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    When this fight was first made many thought it was an easy fight for Floyd but now the opinions of who will win are becoming more divided but if Mayweather stops marquez surely this is a good result isn't it?? as this is the Man that many feel beat Pacquiao twice whats your opinions on how the win is rated if its a stoppage win?
    The opinions aren't becoming more divided. A vast majority of people believe PBF will dominate Marquez in this fight (my prediction for what it is worth is 9 rounds to 3 for PBF in a clear decision victory).

    A stoppage by cut won't be much more impressive than a decision victory. A hard knockout clearly would be impressive although a hard knockout of Pacquiao by Cotto would be more impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    If Mayweather wins by stoppage then I think it speaks volumes. But I seriously think he would be going tooth and nail to get a stoppage against JMM. But for the sake of argument, if PBF does stop JMM I am certain people will belittle it with the overstated size advantage. I guess JMM is too little for PBF but Pac isn't. Go figure. But I'm sure neither guy is an easy night for PBF, who is a miniature welterweight.
    PBF is a minature welterweight? Is that consensus? He is 30 (?) and has fought at welterweight for the last four years and his height and reach are definitely comparable to most top welterweights out there other than Pwill. Cotto is shorter and has less reach and Shane is the same height and has around the same reach. Berto same.

    There is a size advantage. It isn't overstated. In the same way Cotto possesses a size advantage over Pacquiao, which is one of the things that makes that fight interesting.

    Pac and JMM are too little for PBF; PBF should be favored against either fighter. I agree neither fight is a gimme for PBF, but he should be favored.

    Here is Eddie Mustapha Muhammad (Chad Dawson's Trainer) on the size disparity between PBF and Pacman:
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    FLOYD VS. MANNY: “Without a doubt, that fight will happen. Pacman’s speed is too much for Miguel Cotto. He can outpoint Cotto just on speed. You can’t beat Manny throwing one jab at a time because he comes right over the top on you. It would take the Mayweather style to beat Manny. Floyd is a full fledged welterweight, he’s just too big for Manny. He will beat Pacquiao." - From the Examiner
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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    he'll stop him. bet the house on it.

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    he'll stop him. bet the house on it.
    Nah, i'll give that a miss. I quite enjoy living in a house.
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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    I'm a big fan of Floyd/Jmm, but this fight is a total mismatch. Floyd's advantages over Marquez are talent, handspeed, footspeed, size, strength, height, youth and possibly reach.

    Name me one thing that Marquez has over Floyd? There isn't one, unless you count being more active as one.

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanman89 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    he'll stop him. bet the house on it.
    Nah, i'll give that a miss. I quite enjoy living in a house.
    he will. you'll realize come fight night the gap in class. as skilled as jmm is.

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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    Just as a fun fact I found the heights of names in the WW division. Some of these guys haven't fought at Welter for a bit, but all have fought there within the last 3 years.

    6'1"
    Paul Williams

    6'0"
    Delvin Rodriguez

    5'11"
    Antonio Margarito

    5'10"
    Jesus Soto Karass

    5'9"
    Shane Mosley
    Andre Berto
    Kell Brook
    Alfonso Gomez
    Saul Alvarez

    5'8"
    Floyd Mayweather
    Joshua Clottey
    Isaac Hlatshwayo

    5'7"
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Miguel Cotto
    Selcuk Aydin
    Zab Judah

    5'6"
    Sebastian Andres Lujan
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    Default Re: If Mayweather stops Marquez

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I'm a big fan of Floyd/Jmm, but this fight is a total mismatch. Floyd's advantages over Marquez are talent, handspeed, footspeed, size, strength, height, youth and possibly reach.

    Name me one thing that Marquez has over Floyd? There isn't one, unless you count being more active as one.
    Heart. I still favor Floyd - he has entirely too many advantages - but heart is always an X factor in boxing.

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