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    Default Kessler camp shocked over judges

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    Oakland (ekstrabladet.dk): Things are not working.
    It is the unambiguous message from Mikkel Kessler German promoter Wilfried Sauerland before Saturday's Super Six match - and World Cup match - against California's Andre Ward.
    - The California State Athletic Commision which appointed judges and match heads, and they have appointed two Californians among the judges, and there a Californian judges, frother Sauerland opposite ekstrabladet.dk.
    - We will of course appeal to the WBA. In the extreme, Mikkel not come to boxing World Cup match on Saturday. For WBA's rules about the impartiality of judges is quite clear, says the German boxing bigwigs.
    The situation can cook up when lunchtime press conference held with all stakeholders at Oaklands Hall. It's 21 o'clock Danish time. Ekstrabladet.dk will naturally be present

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    This is so typical American style.

    Kessler has to KO Ward to get a V in this fight.

    I thought that it was enough that Andre as the only one was allowed to fight all three first round fights at home - obviously not....

    Very sad.
    Last edited by jangeorg; 11-18-2009 at 08:04 PM.
    Super Middleweight also acknowledge as Kessler's Kingdom when Calzaghe has retire

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    Default Re: Kessler camp shocked over judges

    Hahaha Il bet you we dont see any of the " you need a knockout to get a draw in europe " brigade from the States in here, two Californian judges what a fucking joke.

    Makes me want to see Kessler do a big number on Ward even more.

    But apparently its only bias on european shores .

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    If it's true there are two judges from Cali that is total BS. It should be three judges that are not from the US or Denmark.
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    I hope this isn't revenge for the Froch/Dirrell robbery. I'm hoping this fight will have a clear winner anyways.

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    this has dodgy written all over it, its a shame more fights are not fought in neutral venues to skip all this bollox

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    Kessler will KO Ward

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    Default Re: Kessler camp shocked over judges

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Kessler will KO Ward
    I hope so.

    I'm stunned there are 2 American judges I have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    If it's true there are two judges from Cali that is total BS. It should be three judges that are not from the US or Denmark.
    Andre Ward has been unreasonable from the beginning. He demanded all his fights be in Oakland, and now they choose a local referee and judges

    I think it's clear to see Ward is aiming for support from the officials
    Last edited by jangeorg; 11-18-2009 at 09:34 PM.
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    Default Re: Kessler camp shocked over judges

    Two Californian judges and a Californian ref and Christodoulou, a Showtime house guy, as the other judge. Showtime pulling out all the stops.

    If it goes to the cards and Kessler has only won by a couple of rounds we know what result they're going to come up with. Kessler has to dominate or stop him.

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    better than Google trans

    By Jake Donovan

    For the first time since agreeing to participate in the Super Six World Boxing Classic, Team Mikkel Kessler has come to realize just how advantageous it has become for undefeated challenger Andre Ward to have this weekend’s fight take place in his hometown.

    He’s already traveling some 5,500 miles from his native Denmark to defend his alphabet super middleweight title at the Oracle Arena in Oakland (Saturday, SHOWTIME, 10PM ET/PT). From the moment the fight was signed, Kessler hardly figured to see a friendly face among what figures to be a rabid crown on hand in support of their favorite son.

    If the beleaguered California State Athletic Commission, whom presides over this weekend’s card, has their way, he also shouldn’t expect to be granted neutrality among the referee or at least two of the three judges.

    News leaked out to the Kessler camp early Wednesday morning that a conflict exists as the officials were named for this weekend’s bout. Assigned as the third man for this contest will be Jack Reiss of California. The three ringside judges are Steve English (California), Steve Morrow (California) and Stanley Christodoulou (South Africa).

    On the surface, there is little in the say of suspect credentials among any of the four officials, all of whom have proven to be capable at what they do. If anything, Christodoulou – the one neutral judge among the group - has greater ties to the tournament than any of the three local officials.

    The veteran official served ringside for Kessler’s knockout over Gusmyr Perdomo, a bout that served as a prelude to the Super Six. He was also one of the three official judges for Arthur Abraham’s 12th round knockout of Jermain Taylor in last month’s tournament opener.

    What is of greater concern to Team Kessler is not so much the credentials of the three local officials, but the fact that they are… local.

    The Showtime contract, which was signed by all five promoters involved in the Super Six tournament, states: “Judges and referees shall be identified, selected and assigned by the athletic commission with jurisdiction over the Bout; provided that in all events, one judge shall be from the Home Territory of each Boxer Participant and the third judge shall be from a neutral territory, and in all cases, the referee shall be from a neutral territory.”

    Given the language of the contract, no fewer than two of the four officials – including the referee - need to be replaced for Saturday’s main event. Kessler’s representatives have requested one of the California judges be replaced by a judge from a Scandinavian country (but not Kessler’s home country of Denmark).

    As far the referee goes, failure to appoint a neutral third man could result in the WBA to withdraw their sanctioning of this bout, thus making it a non-title bout, although Kessler wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) be at risk of losing his crown.

    For the moment, the sanctioning body is going head to head with the California State Athletic Commission, having already requested another official for the bout. However, the end result won’t necessarily result in an out-of-the-ring victory for Team Kessler.

    “It is my understanding that the WBA has suggested a different referee, although he too is from California,” stated Scott Shaffer, who serves as the stateside attorney for Sauerland Event, Kessler’s promoter.

    The fight will be the first in the tournament for both Kessler and Ward, though Sauerland Event has already dipped its feet in the pool as they also promote Arthur Abraham, whom last month stopped Jermain Taylor in the 12th round to emerge as the current points leader in the Super Six rankings.

    It is that very fight in which Team Kessler points to in their offering an even playing field and honoring the terms of the contract.

    “When Jermain Taylor came to Germany to fight in the Super Six, neither Sauerland nor the local commission tried to load up on local officials,” informs Shaffer. “There were no German officials involved in that fight, and Taylor’s people didn’t even have to fight about it. The referee was from Mexico, and the judges were from Canada, Italy and South Africa.

    “Kessler deserves the same respect Taylor was given, and is contractually entitled to it.”

    In other words, hometown advantage should be the only advantage Andre Ward enjoys
    Super Middleweight also acknowledge as Kessler's Kingdom when Calzaghe has retire

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    Default Re: Kessler camp shocked over judges

    It should be 3 international judges buuuut I'm all for the 2 California judges It was Mickey Van who cost Pernell Whitaker his win over Chavez, don't want to see it happen again.

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    Looks like Kessler is getting his pre fight excuse ready. What a biitch move on his part. English and Morrow are very capable judges who to my knowledge have never shown favoritism to a particular fighter.

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    Default Re: Kessler camp shocked over judges

    That is outrageous. If I was Kessler I would refuse to fight until impartiality was met.

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    Default Re: Kessler camp shocked over judges

    they need to get on the phone to that guy who gave the 11th round to Carl Froch asap, restore some integrity to this process.

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    Default Re: Kessler camp shocked over judges

    Man, America is not a wholly united country that is completely prejudiced for it's fighters.

    So, two american judges doesn't mean a whole lot.

    I like Kessler and I'd like to see him win. Just because I like him. But just like Ward put it, Kessler is a typical european fighter with a few extra tricks on top. Kessler is too upright, too strict. A flexible adaptble style will beat him.

    Ward is inexperienced, but he is a versatile man.

    It's not going to be a robbery. Ward will take the UD and it won't be because it's his hometown.

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