The only good things about the Pac-Clottey fight was...

[generalbulldog]

Watching the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders sing.


and watching Pac attempt to do some streetfighter hadoken move on Clottey.



That is all.

[Jimmy G-Force]

Full credit to Manny for forcing the fight and taking risks, but it takes two to tango, and Clottey had cleary forgotten his dancing shoes. To be honest I was disgusted in Clottey. The biggest opportunity of his life, his 'Miracle' fight and he hides in his shell like a narcoleptic Tortoise for 36 minutes. Pathetic.

Bearing in mind Clottey's background, and the notoriously brutal upbringing in Accra, this guy had no fight in him. He outweighed Manny by nearly two weight divisions on the night, and still didnt show the bottle to try and at least make it a fight. There was so many times Manny let his hands go in bunches and looked downstairs to finish off the combinations. Where was the big right hand counter ? I'll tell you where, covering his face like a bad case of acne.

I have no doubt that if Clottey had at least attempted to throw some leather he could have had some success. To sit there, content in surviving against a much smaller foe is shameless in my book. Jim Watt and even Darkie were talking shite throughout that fight, and I love Darkie, but come on ? Courageous and brave Clottey ? WTF !!!

Cotto was brave and courageous, Clottey was a fucking coward. At first I thought or more so hoped that Clottey was just weathering the early storm and would come on strong in the second half of the fight, using his size and strength, but no, fuck all.

Disgraceful from Clottey who shouldnt be given another shot like this as long as he lives. That may sound harsh, but it was called the 'Event', the only thing vented was my anger at such a bitch poor showing from Joshua.

Roll on Floyd and Shane, that fight didnt do boxing any favours.

[Taeth]

I think the problem was that Clottey was getting hit harder than he expected. I don't think he could react, surprisingly, to Manny's power the same way he has to Margarito's or Cotto's. I agree though, throwing more punches couldn't have hurt Clottey more than just standing there. THe only advantage it might have provided is that Manny didn't really let loose expect when Clottey tried to come on strong in the 11th. That being said I saw Clottey land better punches in quite a few rounds, but he only threw 4-5 meaningful punches. He had great defense, but he was too stationary, and the fight basically went the way I thought it would as good as Joshua is. I did expect him to win a few more rounds early.

[GAME]

Full credit to Manny for forcing the fight and taking risks, but it takes two to tango, and Clottey had cleary forgotten his dancing shoes. To be honest I was disgusted in Clottey. The biggest opportunity of his life, his 'Miracle' fight and he hides in his shell like a narcoleptic Tortoise for 36 minutes. Pathetic.

Bearing in mind Clottey's background, and the notoriously brutal upbringing in Accra, this guy had no fight in him. He outweighed Manny by nearly two weight divisions on the night, and still didnt show the bottle to try and at least make it a fight. There was so many times Manny let his hands go in bunches and looked downstairs to finish off the combinations. Where was the big right hand counter ? I'll tell you where, covering his face like a bad case of acne.

I have no doubt that if Clottey had at least attempted to throw some leather he could have had some success. To sit there, content in surviving against a much smaller foe is shameless in my book. Jim Watt and even Darkie were talking shite throughout that fight, and I love Darkie, but come on ? Courageous and brave Clottey ? WTF !!!

Cotto was brave and courageous, Clottey was a fucking coward. At first I thought or more so hoped that Clottey was just weathering the early storm and would come on strong in the second half of the fight, using his size and strength, but no, fuck all.

Disgraceful from Clottey who shouldnt be given another shot like this as long as he lives. That may sound harsh, but it was called the 'Event', the only thing vented was my anger at such a bitch poor showing from Joshua.

Roll on Floyd and Shane, that fight didnt nothing for boxing.

I agree with alot of what you say but I dont know if Id call Josh a coward. You have to remember his main cornerman was a locksmith who happend to be a cutman many years ago so basically Clottey had no gameplan. He was very much out there on his own and because he isnt the sharpest tool in the box, he did the only thing he knew which was to put his hands up. Thats all he has been taught. He is a very limited guy and we knew this going in.

Yes he should have let his hands go more but he didnt know how to go about it without getting caught. To impose his strength he needed to make it a physical fight, rough Pac up in the clicnhes and pressure him constantly. Standing in punching range without throwing was always going to make Manny look good just as any figher would look a million dollars if all they had infront of them was a punchbag who would do what you wanted them to do. His gameplan was dependant upon Pac tiring but that doesnt happend when a guy can fight at their own pace.

Disapointing fight but I think we were asking for too much to see Clottey throw punches. He has had that style all his career. Its too late to change now.

[Jimmy G-Force]

Full credit to Manny for forcing the fight and taking risks, but it takes two to tango, and Clottey had cleary forgotten his dancing shoes. To be honest I was disgusted in Clottey. The biggest opportunity of his life, his 'Miracle' fight and he hides in his shell like a narcoleptic Tortoise for 36 minutes. Pathetic.

Bearing in mind Clottey's background, and the notoriously brutal upbringing in Accra, this guy had no fight in him. He outweighed Manny by nearly two weight divisions on the night, and still didnt show the bottle to try and at least make it a fight. There was so many times Manny let his hands go in bunches and looked downstairs to finish off the combinations. Where was the big right hand counter ? I'll tell you where, covering his face like a bad case of acne.

I have no doubt that if Clottey had at least attempted to throw some leather he could have had some success. To sit there, content in surviving against a much smaller foe is shameless in my book. Jim Watt and even Darkie were talking shite throughout that fight, and I love Darkie, but come on ? Courageous and brave Clottey ? WTF !!!

Cotto was brave and courageous, Clottey was a fucking coward. At first I thought or more so hoped that Clottey was just weathering the early storm and would come on strong in the second half of the fight, using his size and strength, but no, fuck all.

Disgraceful from Clottey who shouldnt be given another shot like this as long as he lives. That may sound harsh, but it was called the 'Event', the only thing vented was my anger at such a bitch poor showing from Joshua.

Roll on Floyd and Shane, that fight didnt nothing for boxing.

I agree with alot of what you say but I dont know if Id call Josh a coward. You have to remember his main cornerman was a locksmith who happend to be a cutman many years ago so basically Clottey had no gameplan. He was very much out there on his own and because he isnt the sharpest tool in the box, he did the only thing he knew which was to put his hands up. Thats all he has been taught. He is a very limited guy and we knew this going in.

Yes he should have let his hands go more but he didnt know how to go about it without getting caught. To impose his strength he needed to make it a physical fight, rough Pac up in the clicnhes and pressure him constantly. Standing in punching range without throwing was always going to make Manny look good just as any figher would look a million dollars if all they had infront of them was a punchbag who would do what you wanted them to do. His gameplan was dependant upon Pac tiring but that doesnt happend when a guy can fight at their own pace.

Disapointing fight but I think we were asking for too much to see Clottey throw punches. He has had that style all his career. Its too late to change now.

Fair point, I respect any fighter that steps through the ropes to be honest, it takes a huge set of balls from the outset, regardless of level. The coward quote was more against the commentators rubbish about being courageous, for me that wasnt a gutsy, brave, courageous performance. It was survival 101.

And even without his cornerman, Josh certainly knew he was behind in every round, so why not throw caution to the wind in the biggest fight of your life ? He has the skills, the power, accuracy and size to trouble the smaller Manny, he just didnt go for it. Which I think he will really regret for the rest of his life. Leave it all in the ring, then you can have no what if's afterwards, and you only get one chance like that in your lifetime.

The times the Josh did throw his shots, they were clean, snappy and knocked back Manny's head, he just didnt do anywhere near enough, and that's whats annoying.

[ElTerribleMorales]

in short, a great performance by Pacquiao, and the worst performance from Clottey, he did more dancing on his way to the ring than he did in the ring, the fight was a bore-fest and as predicted the undercard sucked balls, IMO Soto doesn't belong at 135, and put on a pretty weak performance, he gets sparked by any of the top fighters at lightweight and should consider it a blessing that the Valero fight never materialized, so much hype about it being in the Dallas Cowboy Stadium and yet the crowd didn't really seem all that pumped up, i think (as far as energy) the Cotto/Foreman fight is gonna put last nights fight to shame, especially now that it's at Yankee Stadium, again good performance by Pacquiao but as was said earlier it takes two to make a fight, and Clottey only showed up to cash a check

[Pugilistic]

People on here are saying Clottey didn't throw enough punches.

How can Clottey throw when he has to protect himself from Pacquiao's constant speedy attacks ? Is he supposed to just leave himself open to get some shots in ?

When Pacquiao wasn't on his case, he did throw and land.

Throughout the fight though, Clottey was simply not able to fight at the pace Pacquiao was, and Pacquiao's footwork and speed made it harder for Clottey to close the gap.

[Jimmy G-Force]

People on here are saying Clottey didn't throw enough punches.

How can Clottey throw when he has to protect himself from Pacquiao's constant speedy attacks ? Is he supposed to just leave himself open to get some shots in ?

When Pacquiao wasn't on his case, he did throw and land.

Throughout the fight though, Clottey was simply not able to fight at the pace Pacquiao was, and Pacquiao's footwork and speed made it harder for Clottey to close the gap.

Manny's speed was obviously a major factor, he was throwing so many punches I bet Clottey thought he was surrounded at times. It doesnt mean that Clottey couldnt use his strength to try and close the distance, push Manny back behind his 'Winky' style guard and look to get off first.

[ElTerribleMorales]

People on here are saying Clottey didn't throw enough punches.

How can Clottey throw when he has to protect himself from Pacquiao's constant speedy attacks ? Is he supposed to just leave himself open to get some shots in ?

When Pacquiao wasn't on his case, he did throw and land.

Throughout the fight though, Clottey was simply not able to fight at the pace Pacquiao was, and Pacquiao's footwork and speed made it harder for Clottey to close the gap.

Manny's speed was obviously a major factor, he was throwing so many punches I bet Clottey thought he was surrounded at times. It doesnt mean that Clottey couldnt use his strength to try and close the distance, push Manny back behind his 'Winky' style guard and look to get off first.

exactly, why the hell didn't he try to time Pacquiao's shots? i mean all he did was cover up and walk around, IMO he didn't really even put an effort, he had more success in the last 2 rounds and it wasn't due to Pacquiao getting tired (cause he never did), he was the bigger guy yet he never used his size, never even tried to, smaller guys like Cotto and Hatton managed to push Pacquiao to the ropes yet Clottey was the one who laid there to get banged, utter bullshit

[Pugilistic]

People on here are saying Clottey didn't throw enough punches.

How can Clottey throw when he has to protect himself from Pacquiao's constant speedy attacks ? Is he supposed to just leave himself open to get some shots in ?

When Pacquiao wasn't on his case, he did throw and land.

Throughout the fight though, Clottey was simply not able to fight at the pace Pacquiao was, and Pacquiao's footwork and speed made it harder for Clottey to close the gap.

Manny's speed was obviously a major factor, he was throwing so many punches I bet Clottey thought he was surrounded at times. It doesnt mean that Clottey couldnt use his strength to try and close the distance, push Manny back behind his 'Winky' style guard and look to get off first.

Clottey did try and close the distance, Pacquiao's footwork made it much harder for him to do that though. When Clottey was able to close the gap, he would land punches.

[Pugilistic]

People on here are saying Clottey didn't throw enough punches.

How can Clottey throw when he has to protect himself from Pacquiao's constant speedy attacks ? Is he supposed to just leave himself open to get some shots in ?

When Pacquiao wasn't on his case, he did throw and land.

Throughout the fight though, Clottey was simply not able to fight at the pace Pacquiao was, and Pacquiao's footwork and speed made it harder for Clottey to close the gap.

Manny's speed was obviously a major factor, he was throwing so many punches I bet Clottey thought he was surrounded at times. It doesnt mean that Clottey couldnt use his strength to try and close the distance, push Manny back behind his 'Winky' style guard and look to get off first.

exactly, why the hell didn't he try to time Pacquiao's shots? i mean all he did was cover up and walk around, IMO he didn't really even put an effort, he had more success in the last 2 rounds and it wasn't due to Pacquiao getting tired (cause he never did), he was the bigger guy yet he never used his size, never even tried to, smaller guys like Cotto and Hatton managed to push Pacquiao to the ropes yet Clottey was the one who laid there to get banged, utter bullshit

It isn't exactly easy to time a fighter like Pacquiao because of his awesome handspeed.

Only Marquez has been able to counter him in recent years and thats only because Marquez is an excellent counter puncher. Clottey can counter but he's much better at pressing the fight.

[killersheep]

This exactly lived up to my expectations. Which was Williams /Wright II

[Pugilistic]

This exactly lived up to my expectations. Which was Williams /Wright II

Dirrell - Abraham in a few weeks could potential be like Clottey - Pacquiao.

I doubt Dirrell throws as much as Pac though.

[Spicoli]

Starting to believe I didn't miss much.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Starting to believe I didn't miss much.

na you really didn't