Early prediction: Mayweather-Mosley

[holmcall]

Floyd (now 40-0) has vanquished Carlos Manuel Baldomir, decisioned Oscar De La Hoya, waxed Ricky Hatton, and dominated Juan Manuel Marquez. Mosley has beaten Luis Collazo in a fight where Collazo suffered a fractured left thumb during the second round. He then lost to Miguel Cotto, but came back to beat clownish Ricardo Mayorga in a fight that was extremely close on the score cards until Mosley's spectacular left hook knock out at the very end which sent Mayorga to Matador Dreamland.

Sure, against Collazo, Sugar Shane (46-5) showed a display of effective jabs and great hand speed, once again using feints, quickness, and crafty head and body movement that served him so well in his wins against Oscar De La Hoya and especially Fernando Vargas. But Collazo is not Mayweather, and Vargas had taken brutal beatings at the hands of De La Hoya and Trinidad by the time he met Mosley.

Curiously, Mosley lost two to the "Viper" getting beat up in one, while Mayorga beat Forrest twice. But then Mayorga, an "old" 34, got starched convincingly by De La Hoya who Mosley "beat" twice. Of course, that was then and this is now and a lot has changed.

Shane's demolition of Antonio Margarito in January 2009 raised everyone's eyebrows. However, one theory that has not been given much traction (and one to which I partially subscribe) is that Tony may have been so discombobulated by pre-fight events, that he simply was there for the taking. Whatever the case, Mosley made the most of it and destroyed the disgraced "Tijuana Tornado." Interestingly. Mosley likely did not even get hit flush in that fight, but then, neither did Mayweather against Marquez.

The Age Factor

However, Sugar Shane is getting a bit long in the tooth and his considerable skills are in jeopardy of eroding. Age has a way of impacting speed, quickness, hand-eye coordination, movement, and putting punches together. Moreover, the fact he has fought tougher opponents than Mayweather (Vargas twice, Winky Wright twice, De La Hoya twice, Vernon Forrest twice, Jesse James Leija, John John Molina, Philip Holiday, Collazo, Mayorga, Margarito, among others), is not necessarily an advantage at this point. The reputation for never having ducked an opponent can back fire and render a boxer's body old overnight.

That said and notwithstanding the Margorito beat down, I no longer believe Mosley is at the top of his game and I'm betting the ingredients for the perfect storm that once existed have now dissipated to the point where the momentum is clearly in favor of the man with the heavyweight ego.

Fighters like "Pretty Boy," don't come around very often. He uses old school stuff, but he does it so subtly, he is seldom given proper credit for it. As I have said before, he just might be too good for his own good. His use of shoulder rolls, feints, parrying, upward jabbing, giving angles, counter punching, crossover defense, strategic lateral movement, and deflecting punches is all part of the old school mix. So is his mastery of the basics...the three levels of defense, slipping punches, and fighting off the jab. If a purist is one who appreciates the technical aspects of the Sweet Science, Floyd Mayweather Junior is a purist's delight. His fights with Phillip N'dou and Juan Manuel Marquez showcased these attributes to a tee.

However, if one definition of "Old School" is that it combines the aforementioned with a violent dimension (one that reflects a boxer's propensity to engage in a pier six street brawl), then Floyd may be somewhat lacking. Aside from his give and take with Emanuel Augustus, we have not yet seen Floyd be required to demonstrate this dimension. However, his blow-outs of the late Diego Corrales and Arturo Gatti suggest he may be capable of the same kind of mayhem Mosley showed against Margorito, but I doubt he can do that to Mosley.

My feeling at this point is that a well-rested Floyd Mayweather Junior will dominate Sugar Shane Mosley over 12 rounds and cop a unanimous decision.

[Taeth]

Watch the Corley fight.

[TitoFan]

I hope Mosley has enough gas in the tank for one last great fight. If he loses to Floyd it'll only fuel Pretty Boy's claim to the p4p title, regardless of how ridiculous that is. PBF no longer needs to fight Margarito, who's an outcast after he was caught cheating. He doesn't NEED to fight Cotto, who now has two losses on his record. He won't fight Pac, mostly due to Pac's own inexplicable insistence on not being randomly drug tested. So who's left? Paul Williams is unlikely to return to WW, when his body is practically begging him to stay at the higher weights. So in summary, Mosley is probably Floyd's last remaining hurdle before self-proclaiming himself the world's best welterweight and p4p king. How sad that it comes after a self-imposed retirement (running from the likes of Margarito and Cotto), and a ridiculously one-sided beating of JMM, who should have never ventured into 147 in the first place. If Mosley suddenly ages against Floyd and loses, the PBF fanboys will be out in force, and make the Pac fanboys look like choirboys in comparison.

Go Shane!!!!!

[ElTerribleMorales]

I hope Mosley has enough gas in the tank for one last great fight. If he loses to Floyd it'll only fuel Pretty Boy's claim to the p4p title, regardless of how ridiculous that is. PBF no longer needs to fight Margarito, who's an outcast after he was caught cheating. He doesn't NEED to fight Cotto, who now has two losses on his record. He won't fight Pac, mostly due to Pac's own inexplicable insistence on not being randomly drug tested. So who's left? Paul Williams is unlikely to return to WW, when his body is practically begging him to stay at the higher weights. So in summary, Mosley is probably Floyd's last remaining hurdle before self-proclaiming himself the world's best welterweight and p4p king. How sad that it comes after a self-imposed retirement (running from the likes of Margarito and Cotto), and a ridiculously one-sided beating of JMM, who should have never ventured into 147 in the first place. If Mosley suddenly ages against Floyd and loses, the PBF fanboys will be out in force, and make the Pac fanboys look like choirboys in comparison.

Go Shane!!!!!

Mayweather is gonna take a surprisingly one-sided UD something like 10 rounds to 2

and then the Pacfans, Arum, Roach, and masses will make some sort of excuse to why Mayweather shouldn't get credit

[TitoFan]

I hope Mosley has enough gas in the tank for one last great fight. If he loses to Floyd it'll only fuel Pretty Boy's claim to the p4p title, regardless of how ridiculous that is. PBF no longer needs to fight Margarito, who's an outcast after he was caught cheating. He doesn't NEED to fight Cotto, who now has two losses on his record. He won't fight Pac, mostly due to Pac's own inexplicable insistence on not being randomly drug tested. So who's left? Paul Williams is unlikely to return to WW, when his body is practically begging him to stay at the higher weights. So in summary, Mosley is probably Floyd's last remaining hurdle before self-proclaiming himself the world's best welterweight and p4p king. How sad that it comes after a self-imposed retirement (running from the likes of Margarito and Cotto), and a ridiculously one-sided beating of JMM, who should have never ventured into 147 in the first place. If Mosley suddenly ages against Floyd and loses, the PBF fanboys will be out in force, and make the Pac fanboys look like choirboys in comparison.

Go Shane!!!!!

Mayweather is gonna take a surprisingly one-sided UD something like 10 rounds to 2

and then the Pacfans, Arum, Roach, and masses will make some sort of excuse to why Mayweather shouldn't get credit

And I'll be in the "masses" category.

[Taeth]

People have been hoping for one last great fight from Mosley for years, and everytime he shows up with great handspeed and stamina and power and his chin.

[holmcall]

Watch the Corley fight.

Good point

[Tysonbruno]

Mayweather by wide UD12

[Dark Lord Al]

Mosley scores knockdown , and wins by 4 rounds

[TitoFan]

Mosley scores knockdown , and wins by 4 rounds

I'd be drunk for a week.

[jabvargas24]

Floyd wins a UD

[JonesJrMayweather]

Floyd (now 40-0) has vanquished Carlos Manuel Baldomir, decisioned Oscar De La Hoya, waxed Ricky Hatton, and dominated Juan Manuel Marquez. Mosley has beaten Luis Collazo in a fight where Collazo suffered a fractured left thumb during the second round. He then lost to Miguel Cotto, but came back to beat clownish Ricardo Mayorga in a fight that was extremely close on the score cards until Mosley's spectacular left hook knock out at the very end which sent Mayorga to Matador Dreamland.

Sure, against Collazo, Sugar Shane (46-5) showed a display of effective jabs and great hand speed, once again using feints, quickness, and crafty head and body movement that served him so well in his wins against Oscar De La Hoya and especially Fernando Vargas. But Collazo is not Mayweather, and Vargas had taken brutal beatings at the hands of De La Hoya and Trinidad by the time he met Mosley.

Curiously, Mosley lost two to the "Viper" getting beat up in one, while Mayorga beat Forrest twice. But then Mayorga, an "old" 34, got starched convincingly by De La Hoya who Mosley "beat" twice. Of course, that was then and this is now and a lot has changed.

Shane's demolition of Antonio Margarito in January 2009 raised everyone's eyebrows. However, one theory that has not been given much traction (and one to which I partially subscribe) is that Tony may have been so discombobulated by pre-fight events, that he simply was there for the taking. Whatever the case, Mosley made the most of it and destroyed the disgraced "Tijuana Tornado." Interestingly. Mosley likely did not even get hit flush in that fight, but then, neither did Mayweather against Marquez.

The Age Factor

However, Sugar Shane is getting a bit long in the tooth and his considerable skills are in jeopardy of eroding. Age has a way of impacting speed, quickness, hand-eye coordination, movement, and putting punches together. Moreover, the fact he has fought tougher opponents than Mayweather (Vargas twice, Winky Wright twice, De La Hoya twice, Vernon Forrest twice, Jesse James Leija, John John Molina, Philip Holiday, Collazo, Mayorga, Margarito, among others), is not necessarily an advantage at this point. The reputation for never having ducked an opponent can back fire and render a boxer's body old overnight.

That said and notwithstanding the Margorito beat down, I no longer believe Mosley is at the top of his game and I'm betting the ingredients for the perfect storm that once existed have now dissipated to the point where the momentum is clearly in favor of the man with the heavyweight ego.

Fighters like "Pretty Boy," don't come around very often. He uses old school stuff, but he does it so subtly, he is seldom given proper credit for it. As I have said before, he just might be too good for his own good. His use of shoulder rolls, feints, parrying, upward jabbing, giving angles, counter punching, crossover defense, strategic lateral movement, and deflecting punches is all part of the old school mix. So is his mastery of the basics...the three levels of defense, slipping punches, and fighting off the jab. If a purist is one who appreciates the technical aspects of the Sweet Science, Floyd Mayweather Junior is a purist's delight. His fights with Phillip N'dou and Juan Manuel Marquez showcased these attributes to a tee.

However, if one definition of "Old School" is that it combines the aforementioned with a violent dimension (one that reflects a boxer's propensity to engage in a pier six street brawl), then Floyd may be somewhat lacking. Aside from his give and take with Emanuel Augustus, we have not yet seen Floyd be required to demonstrate this dimension. However, his blow-outs of the late Diego Corrales and Arturo Gatti suggest he may be capable of the same kind of mayhem Mosley showed against Margorito, but I doubt he can do that to Mosley.

My feeling at this point is that a well-rested Floyd Mayweather Junior will dominate Sugar Shane Mosley over 12 rounds and cop a unanimous decision.

[quote=Taeth;855065]Watch the Corley fight.[/quote]


Pretty hard to hide the unbiased approached...I mean shouldn't it be considering how everything you stated mosley did had a figurative asterisk by it...

"Floyd (now 40-0) has vanquished Carlos Manuel Baldomir (an overmatched plodding fighter turned sparring buddy), decisioned Oscar De La Hoya (An old oscar that hadn't won a significant fight since beating ruined Vargas in 2002), waxed (the smaller, shouldn't have been fighting above 140) Ricky Hatton, and dominated Juan Manuel Marquez (a man two weight classes smaller than him, on top of that broke the agreed upon catch weight limit and refused to be unofficially weighed the night of the fight, adding to the speculation that he possibly weighed 150+ on the night of the fight)....I mean sure floyd outpointed the old has been oscar, but oscar was only concerned about money, and was a shell of him former self by the time floyd got to him.

THE AGE FACTOR

However, Sugar Shane is getting a bit long in the tooth and his considerable skills are in jeopardy of eroding.

Let's change it to. Sugar Shane is long in the tooth and his skills have already eroded. Which is why the fight is happening now, that plus the fact Pacman didn't jump through the hoops like the PBF camp felt he should and Floyd needs money to pay back oscar for paying the IRS for him. In other words Shane would have still been avoided and chalked up to a mere 5 loss sparring partner that's on steroids as he has been if Floyd was allowed to have his way and just face pacman.



And as far as the chop chop fight being the one to watch for where floyd "engages in a street brawl" is utter nonsense because floyd himself stated that he once told Judah to go after chop because he was a feather puncher....If anything the Jesus Chavez fight is a better example....Having said all that Floyd will bicycle his way to a 116-112 victory..

[Althugz]

If he loses to Floyd it'll only fuel Pretty Boy's claim to the p4p title, regardless of how ridiculous that is.

Not very ridiculous, If he beats Sugar Shane he should be p4p number 1 again. He will have beaten 3 p4p'ers back to back in his last 3 contests AND beaten the best Welterweight in the world at this time.

I hope for a Floyd UD or KO - We'll see what happens. A K.O would really put a seal on it and have the haters with their knickers in a bunch but this is Sugar Shane we're talking about here.

Fight could go either way depending on which SSM turns up but if Floyd boxes smart, I feel that he wins.

[Althugz]

Let's change it to. Sugar Shane is long in the tooth and his skills have already eroded. Which is why the fight is happening now, that plus the fact Pacman didn't jump through the hoops like the PBF camp felt he should and Floyd needs money to pay back oscar for paying the IRS for him. In other words Shane would have still been avoided and chalked up to a mere 5 loss sparring partner that's on steroids as he has been if Floyd was allowed to have his way and just face pacman.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Let's change it to. Sugar Shane is long in the tooth and his skills have already eroded. Which is why the fight is happening now, that plus the fact Pacman didn't jump through the hoops like the PBF camp felt he should and Floyd needs money to pay back oscar for paying the IRS for him. In other words Shane would have still been avoided and chalked up to a mere 5 loss sparring partner that's on steroids as he has been if Floyd was allowed to have his way and just face pacman.