Sergio Mora v. Shane Mosley

[Rantcatrat]

Fight is this weekend. Shane didn't look good in his last fight...but, that was against Floyd. Mora ain't no Floyd, but he's slick, bigger than Shane, and coming into his prime. What's your call?

[Hornfinger]

this is a silly fight. Shane should win this easily. the way people were talking about shane before the floyd fight you'd be forgiven for thinking that the man is made from solid steel

[boxingbantz]

If he loses, he only has himself (and twitter) to blame. Spend way too much time on there chasing, as he likes to put it, 'ass'.

[JazMerkin]

I got Shane by decision or possibly a late TKO, but this is a tough fight for him against a bigger, very difficult opponent. Mora proved in his first fight with Forrest that he can cause a lot of problems.

Also does anyone else think that Ponce de Leon vs Escalante on the undercard looks like a surefire FOTY candidate?

[JonnyFolds]

If he loses, he only has himself (and twitter) to blame. Spend way too much time on there chasing, as he likes to put it, 'ass'.

I am guessing you mean Mora? I don't really follow twitter.

Shane might not have enough left to compete with a healthy Mora and his speed. Mora is not going to engage Mosley and let him take the fight to him. Mosley by UD

And considering Mora's long layoff. This really isn't worthy of a PPV. I just don't see the allure.

[ono]

Reailiy TV star vs Future Hall of Famer. Tough call.

[Rantcatrat]

Reailiy TV star vs Future Hall of Famer. Tough call.

On the surface, that is 100% true. But, there is How wrong is Mora's style for aging Mosley? that point too.

[CFH]

The main problem here for Mora, one of many IMO, is that he doesn't use his jab (which is decent when he actually utilizes it). The fighters who have beaten or troubled Mosley, with a couple exceptions, have all used their jabs to great effect. Mora's awkward, but he's not all that slick and unless he really concentrates on jabbing, which he might well do for once, I think Mosley will eventually figure him out, hurt him, and stop him. However, if Mora does use his jab and focuses on Mosley's body (something he almost always does), he might be able to eek out a decision, but I doubt it. I'll probably be the only person on here
cheering for him to do it though.

[amat]

Mora beating Forrest was one of the more flukey things to happen in boxing recently and it wasn't even that Mora looked very good, Forrest was just that bad. The rematch went how the first should have gone. Mora is not that good of a fighter. He has this reputation of being 'slick' but that's such bullshit. Watch Mora's last fight, he had to dig real deep to win that one and it was against a club guy with like 5 losses. The dude tired out against him. Forrest just didn't want to work for that fight and Mora used his feet, that's all he did.

Shane is faster then Forrest or Mora, he won't have any sort of weight issues and Mora. Mora isn't top 10 at this weight. This guy lost to Peter Fucken Manfredo and he hasn't fought but one fight in 2 years. He's got this fight because he fought a smart fight against a Forrest who barely even showed up. I'm all for giving a guy credit when he wins but go back in that fight and all Mora did was make Forrest miss with the jab and there was absolutely nothing following it up. That was 'off night' in boxing typified and in the second fight you could see the separation of class.

He's just not that talented of a fighter and his only advantage will be height, which he doesn't even use. I'll change my name to the Latin Snake if this guy wins, there aren't many sure things in boxing but in my mind this is one of them.

And again, there is no way he's top 10 at 154. Sergei, Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Angulo, Mosley, Foreman, Vanes and a few more all beat Mora comfortably imo. That's even if he's active, which he's not even close to being.

[CFH]

I can't believe this is actually a PPV either. Who would spend $49 on this?

[amat]

Are you serious? This is PPV for sure? I saw the ads for it but I thought that was just for non-HBO subscribers. That sucks.

[CFH]

Mora beating Forrest was one of the more flukey things to happen in boxing recently and it wasn't even that Mora looked very good, Forrest was just that bad. The rematch went how the first should have gone. Mora is not that good of a fighter. He has this reputation of being 'slick' but that's such bullshit. Watch Mora's last fight, he had to dig real deep to win that one and it was against a club guy with like 5 losses. The dude tired out against him. Forrest just didn't want to work for that fight and Mora used his feet, that's all he did.

Shane is faster then Forrest or Mora, he won't have any sort of weight issues and Mora. Mora isn't top 10 at this weight. This guy lost to Peter Fucken Manfredo and he hasn't fought but one fight in 2 years. He's got this fight because he fought a smart fight against a Forrest who barely even showed up. I'm all for giving a guy credit when he wins but go back in that fight and all Mora did was make Forrest miss with the jab and there was absolutely nothing following it up. That was 'off night' in boxing typified and in the second fight you could see the separation of class.

He's just not that talented of a fighter and his only advantage will be height, which he doesn't even use. I'll change my name to the Latin Snake if this guy wins, there aren't many sure things in boxing but in my mind this is one of them.

And again, there is no way he's top 10 at 154. Sergei, Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Angulo, Mosley, Foreman, Vanes and a few more all beat Mora comfortably imo. That's even if he's active, which he's not even close to being.

That's harsh, but it's probably pretty fair too.

I'm admittedly a fan of his, but Mora is a limited fighter. He's quick and awkward, and he has a very good chin, but he's not slick at all and he never has been. He gets hit regularly and he's struggled to make even journeymen fighters miss him on a regular basis. He also has a very low work-rate. He lost to Manfredo in their 2nd fight, he lost to Elvin Ayala, and while he deserves credit for beating Forrest and for showing a ton of heart in the rematch, when Forrest took him even half-seriously he took Mora to school. Mosley's age is the only thing which makes this a potentially competitive fight. I think Mora, if he utilizes his advantages and gives the fight of his life, might make it competitive, but I expect a Mosley TKO.

[amat]

The undercard is decent at least, Escalante-Ponce De Leon and Baldomir-Alvarez (Canelo be careful! lol) but yeah, who's buying this? They had been good the past couple years with the non-frivolous pay per views but between this and Marquez-Diaz they are taking a real step back. They must put a lot of stock in the fact that Mexicans buy pay per views and Canelo has 'em talking. No bueno for boxing fans like me though who actually have HBO.

[ono]

Reailiy TV star vs Future Hall of Famer. Tough call.

On the surface, that is 100% true. But, there is How wrong is Mora's style for aging Mosley? that point too.

They can dress it up all they like. Mosley should be far too good.

[Rantcatrat]

Mora beating Forrest was one of the more flukey things to happen in boxing recently and it wasn't even that Mora looked very good, Forrest was just that bad. The rematch went how the first should have gone. Mora is not that good of a fighter. He has this reputation of being 'slick' but that's such bullshit. Watch Mora's last fight, he had to dig real deep to win that one and it was against a club guy with like 5 losses. The dude tired out against him. Forrest just didn't want to work for that fight and Mora used his feet, that's all he did.

Shane is faster then Forrest or Mora, he won't have any sort of weight issues and Mora. Mora isn't top 10 at this weight. This guy lost to Peter Fucken Manfredo and he hasn't fought but one fight in 2 years. He's got this fight because he fought a smart fight against a Forrest who barely even showed up. I'm all for giving a guy credit when he wins but go back in that fight and all Mora did was make Forrest miss with the jab and there was absolutely nothing following it up. That was 'off night' in boxing typified and in the second fight you could see the separation of class.

He's just not that talented of a fighter and his only advantage will be height, which he doesn't even use. I'll change my name to the Latin Snake if this guy wins, there aren't many sure things in boxing but in my mind this is one of them.

And again, there is no way he's top 10 at 154. Sergei, Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Angulo, Mosley, Foreman, Vanes and a few more all beat Mora comfortably imo. That's even if he's active, which he's not even close to being.

I mean I'm not saying I disagree with you all that much, maybe just to the extent you think Mora is a bad fighter. Shane should be favored, of course. I guess my main point is that Shane does better against pressure fighters and Mora isn't that. Mora can fight at middleweight though. He'll probably walk in 15 pounds heavier than Shane (Don't also forget that he dodged Jermain Taylor although that was probably a smart move). The betting line isn't that far apart either right now albeit clearly favoring Shane. Shane loses here though and that spells trouble for his career.

Where's Diane to defend him?