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    uhhh... anyone think there's anything questionable about these images of 40 year old juan manuel marquez?

    Boxing News | Juan Manuel Marquez Mexico City Media Day


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    Most fighters don't put in half that effort. Much less 40 year olds. That's why he stays on top

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    There's nothing questionable about his physique. Hard work and dedication
    That's all it is.

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    I don't see anything remotely questionable there.
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    I do. Those socks. Shocking.
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    Marquez against Mayweather.





    At the weigh-in for his last fight.



    Move along, there's nothing to see here. It's all down to lots of hard work in the gym.

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    Thomas Hauser, the best writer in boxing :

    For years, Juan Manuel Marquez has honored the craft of prizefighting. But there’s now a cloud hanging over him in the suspicion that, sometime before his fourth fight against Manny Pacquiao, Marquez stopped drinking his own urine in preparing for fights and began using performance-enhancing drugs under the supervision of conditioning coach Angel “Memo” Heredia.
    That suspicion was echoed by Jim Lampley in a December 15, 2012, telecast of The Fight Game in which Lampley referenced “the presence in Juan Manuel Marquez's training camp of a man who once admitted under oath to being a world-renowned purveyor of performance enhancing drugs” and “Marquez's stunning appearance on the scale [prior to Pacquiao-Marquez IV] followed by his stunning power in the fight.”
    Whatever the cause, Marquez (who several years ago looked old in the ring), appears with the assistance of Heredia to have found the fountain of youth that Ponce De Leon sought. With that in mind, Bradley wanted the most comprehensive drug-testing possible for Bradley-Marquez.
    “Before I ever talked money with Top Rank,” Tim says, “we talked drug testing. It’s in my contract. I don’t know what Marquez’s contract says, but my contract says that VADA testing was supposed to be done on both fighters starting July 13th. And someone reneged.”
    Marquez refused to be tested by VADA, which is widely regarded as having the most comprehensive PED testing program currently available in boxing.
    Initially, Bradley threatened to pull out of the fight.
    “I’m not going to fight someone at this level and risk everything if they cheated,” Tim told Boxing Scene Radio. "My contract says VADA [and USADA as a second tester if Marquez so chooses] is going to be involved, so that's what I'm going with. If they are not going to be involved, there is not going to be a fight.”
    Then Top Rank announced that it had resolved the issue by agreeing to underwrite the cost of a special PED-testing program for Bradley-Marquez to be overseen by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
    “The whole State of Nevada is getting involved and doing their drug testing,” Bradley responded. “That's fine. But in my contract, it still says VADA-USADA is going to be involved. At the end of the day, if that doesn't happen, it’s a breach of my contract.”
    Eventually, Bradley backed down on the issue. He has submitted to VADA testing for himself at his own expense as a demonstration of his integrity. Both Marquez and Bradley will be tested by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marquez will not be tested by VADA or USADA.
    It’s unclear what tests will be conducted by the NSAC, which drugs will be tested for, how a positive test will be reported, when, and to whom.
    Moreover, the NSAC tests began so late (August 6th) that a fighter, hypothetically, would have been able to use PEDs and then, after benefiting from their use, stop “juicing” in time to get the illegal drugs out of his system before testing began.
    One might also note that the NSAC is using a collection agency whose first-stated mission is paternity testing (see www.jagexam.com ). One assumes that neither Marquez nor Bradley is pregnant.
    “Let’s put it this way,” Bradley says. “Marquez and I are two of the guys at the top in boxing. When you’re at the top, you want the best of everything. But Marquez isn’t willing to do the best drug-testing in the world, which is VADA. No offense to the Nevada commission; but their drug-testing is like an old cell phone. VADA is like the iPhone5. I said, ‘If you don’t trust VADA, we’ll do VADA and USADA and Nevada. I’ll test with anyone you want as long as VADA is included. Even Pacquiao and Rios are doing VADA now. But it didn’t happen. Even the timing on what they’re doing is wrong. I wanted testing three months out. As soon as we got into July, testing should have started. But Marquez kept stalling, stalling, buying time until we got into August.”
    “If you’re clean,” Bradley continues, “why not do the best testing out there? It doesn’t add up unless you’re playing games. Marquez is getting his way on testing, but I don’t think it’s the right way. It looks shady to me. PEDs are a real problem now in boxing. More fighters have to step up and insist that testing be done right or we’re all going to pay a price.”



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    Look at those photographs. Even his head is different. He's starting to look like Barry Bonds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Look at those photographs. Even his head is different. He's starting to look like Barry Bonds.
    Are you a pac fan?

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    It can't be denied that it is somewhat suspicious. Innocent until proven guilty, of course.


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    Listen, the same argument that was made against Pacquiao with drug testing--take the test--applies here. Marquez won't take the test. It doesn't mean he's on illegal drugs, but it is suspicious, especially because Bradley and Marquez weren't in a heated negotiation, like the Floyd-Manny negotiation. There's no reason why Marquez shouldn't take all the tests in the world. Money isn't the issue.

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    Hugh Mcilvanney is a much better writer on boxing than Hauser. Hausers Ali book is great if a little sycophantic but for me Hugh is better.


    Marquez looks ripped because he has a conditioning coach who knows how to help him realise his potential. His head looks the same.

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    He looks about the same as he did before his last fight. Definitely think Bradley is in for a beating in this one, should be fun while it lasts.

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    A profesional athlete's physique changes after he starts weightlifting for the first time - motherfuckers lose their minds...

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    It's difficult to say whether Marquez's new-found physique is due to a strength and conditioning coach or a drug regimen. There's no doubt his physique looks entirely different than it was before his last fight. Either way he should have signed up for every test-taking service out there. Fact that he has a problem with doing so is suspicious.

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