Why Morales never fought Marquez?

[ykdadamaja]

Why?

[greynotsoold]

He didn't want to get beat up. Barrera didn't fight him until way late in the game. Nobody wanted to fight Marquez in the 90s.

[Andre]

Think you are right, too much risk involved, lose to him and your payday dissolves fast.

[ElTerribleMorales]

given his track record no one can say with a serious face that Morales was scared of Marquez, and honestly it would have been an even fight, it was just one of those fights that never came to be, same as Morales/Hamed, Marquez/Hamed, Trinidad/Quartey, Trinidad/Mosley, and the list never ends, the fight just never got made, it's as simple as that

[SlimTrae]

I thought it was because of his boxing style, not considered a Mexican fighter or crowd pleasing, especially when he lost his wba featherweight bid to Freddie Norwood.

His fight with Pac is when the media took notice of him- by then 2005-2006, most- myself included felt Morales was on the downside of his career.

[Master]

I am glad it never happened both are great fighters but their best was not at the same time.

[ykdadamaja]

I am glad it never happened both are great fighters but their best was not at the same time.

But Marquez fought Barrerra. Gatta count for something.

[Master]

I am glad it never happened both are great fighters but their best was not at the same time.

But Marquez fought Barrerra. Gatta count for something.

That is why JMM won because Barrera was past it. Both Marco and Morales beat JMM.

[Ron Swanson]

I am glad it never happened both are great fighters but their best was not at the same time.

But Marquez fought Barrerra. Gatta count for something.

That is why JMM won because Barrera was past it. Both Marco and Morales beat JMM.

Too bad Morales wasn't as confident as you. Just like HAmed wasn't. Both fights were discussed, JMM deserved both fights. Both chose easier routes. Good career management

[J_Undisputed]

I thought it was because of his boxing style, not considered a Mexican fighter or crowd pleasing, especially when he lost his wba featherweight bid to Freddie Norwood.

His fight with Pac is when the media took notice of him- by then 2005-2006, most- myself included felt Morales was on the downside of his career.

Marquez was never a blind brawler like a good percentage of Mexican fighters and was robbed against Norwood. You could tell during the fight that there was no way there were going to let Marquez win that fight. Especially when Norwood tripped and punched Marquez and they scored it a knock down an when norwoods glove touched canvas, the ref conveniently didn't see it.. Marquez didn't become a full-time boxer till later. At that time believe or not, he was an accountant for a Gov't Agency in Mexico.

[IamInuit]

@ElTerribleMorales nailed it. Fights simply don't happen. The same item that contradicts all the nonsense spouted on and on about by Ward and his hypnotized fans also dismisses any notion of "ducking" in relationship to this question. Once again its the calender although a little more subtle then the obvious failures of Wards claims.

Morales started his career at 122 and went on to more or less dominate the division. Marquez was most likely born a featherweight. Morales had the name rep, tv appearances stc and Marquez was desperately trying to break through behind him. They both started fighting in 93 within months of each other but it just couldn't have been done based on the when each man broke stride. Its also very true that the media concentrated on Erik because it had not seen that good a boxer with that good a ko ratio @122 ever. The guy was sporting a 90% or better for a time.

Cant see Norwood having an effect anymore then Junior Jones effected a Mab fight with Erik. And the style thing I don't get because if ever there was a classic matchup of styles it was Morales/Marquez.


If I was going to blame someone if there was a window then it would be the handling team around Marquez. Quite possibly one of the most inept in modern times. I mean look what they did after Norwood. They wasted about 2 years of the mans boxing life. And then came the Chris John episode. That 2002-2005 area looks pretty ripe for a fight but look at all the players involved. Literally musical chairs or rather musical belts. There were about 8 super stars in the same division at the same time. Look how long it took for Mab/Hamed. I used to believe that Hamed skirted around Marquez but @Fenster brought a pretty compelling case to suggest otherwise. I just cant get over how deep that featherweight era was and we got some great fights out of it but missed out on plenty also.

[johnsebastianmiran]

Handlers and promoters tying to hang on to the golden goose longer than they could.

[SlimTrae]

J-Undisputed pointed it out: You could tell during the fight that there was no way there were going to let Marquez win that fight.

Skills or not; he wasn't a media darling. We can argue why, but there is no arguement, that Morales was the man at that time whom Mexico & The media adored. That's why I pointed out Norwood. Given a different fight (style) IMO he would have gotten the victory & Morales would have seen him as a potential rival.
My point is pretty basic: Morales at the time had no reason to notice JMM- and once JMM proved his valor, Morales was past it.

[fan johnny]

@ElTerribleMorales nailed it. Fights simply don't happen. The same item that contradicts all the nonsense spouted on and on about by Ward and his hypnotized fans also dismisses any notion of "ducking" in relationship to this question. Once again its the calender although a little more subtle then the obvious failures of Wards claims.

Morales started his career at 122 and went on to more or less dominate the division. Marquez was most likely born a featherweight. Morales had the name rep, tv appearances stc and Marquez was desperately trying to break through behind him. They both started fighting in 93 within months of each other but it just couldn't have been done based on the when each man broke stride. Its also very true that the media concentrated on Erik because it had not seen that good a boxer with that good a ko ratio @122 ever. The guy was sporting a 90% or better for a time.

Cant see Norwood having an effect anymore then Junior Jones effected a Mab fight with Erik. And the style thing I don't get because if ever there was a classic matchup of styles it was Morales/Marquez.


If I was going to blame someone if there was a window then it would be the handling team around Marquez. Quite possibly one of the most inept in modern times. I mean look what they did after Norwood. They wasted about 2 years of the mans boxing life. And then came the Chris John episode. That 2002-2005 area looks pretty ripe for a fight but look at all the players involved. Literally musical chairs or rather musical belts. There were about 8 super stars in the same division at the same time. Look how long it took for Mab/Hamed. I used to believe that Hamed skirted around Marquez but @Fenster brought a pretty compelling case to suggest otherwise. I just cant get over how deep that featherweight era was and we got some great fights out of it but missed out on plenty also.

You nailed it "Nacho Beristain" Marquez's Trainer is his advisor and what ever he recommends to Marquez, Marquez follows. Marquez turned down a rematch with Pacquiao for 750k, it was said he wanted 1.5 million which was basicly saying he didn't want the rematch because that was the total purse amount. Then none of the promoters bid on his next mandatory fight. My guess is Top Rank black listed him. So after he beats Polo, he was offered a fight with Morales at 1.5 million and turned that down. They said he wanted 3.5 million and Morales never made that much. I'm guessing they were still pissed with Top Rank and trying to show they had pride. This is when he should have fought Morales. At the time Marquez was not the draw and instead of taking what was being offered, he ends up fight John for 30K.

[SlimTrae]

@ElTerribleMorales


if there was a window then it would be the handling team around Marquez. .

You nailed it " . At the time Marquez was not the draw and instead of taking what was being offered, he ends up fight John for 30K.

(IF) there was a window- good point.
& at the time JMM...was not a draw- once again this is a business- so that would answer the topic of this thread-Why Morales never fought JMM--# uno he wasn't a draw, we can debate why...