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    Default One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    It's widely known that Mike Tyson was represented by his tax attorney.

    Why didn't Don King provide a legitimate or reputable criminal defense attorney to represent him? At that time, Mike was a cash cow for DK. As intelligent and manipulative as Don King is, I would think that he would have done more to protect his investment.

    Perhaps he was just as arrogant and overconfident about the trial as Tyson was. Any real attorney would have picked that case apart.

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    Default Re: One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    Could not agree more. What does a tax lawyer know about a rape case. Not only that but he put Tyson on the stand which was a big mistake.

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    Default Re: One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    I've heard so many rumours about evidence that was either not used or deemed inadmissible that I really don't know what to think. I suppose much of it depends on whether there is any truth to the rumours.

    The suggestion that she went into the bathroom and removed a tampon shortly before the alleged rape took place would certainly be enough to cast doubt over the conviction if it that is actually true.

    There's no doubting that King got it badly wrong using his tax lawyer though. Tyson was already up against it, what with his reputation and his accuser being a Sunday school teacher who seemed to be as pure as the driven snow. I always felt Mike was going down from the moment the case began.

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    I still don't think Tyson raped that girl. I saw a documentary about the events surrounding the court case a few years ago and it's just not convincing.

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    Default Re: One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    Quote Originally Posted by chinchekked View Post
    I still don't think Tyson raped that girl. I saw a documentary about the events surrounding the court case a few years ago and it's just not convincing.

    I know a guy that was at that pageant & he said Mike Tyson was flirting with his supposed rape victim & a couple more contestants. He said Mike was being Mike telling the girls what he'd like to do with them & they were all over him. She thought that if she went with Tyson, he was a judge don't forget , he would vote for her & she'd win. He said there was nothing wrong with her at the competition she was fine until she didn't win. She waited 72 hours to complain about supposedly being savagely raped. Apparantly she'd made similar allegations about a guy at her High school previously but she withdrew the charges
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    Hey, Kings power trips and taking all for granted caught up to him. Caught up to Mike as well. You make your bed..so on and so forth. The plus was Ricardo Lopez being 'discovered' and actually headlining a King card

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    Default Re: One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    Quote Originally Posted by chinchekked View Post
    I still don't think Tyson raped that girl. I saw a documentary about the events surrounding the court case a few years ago and it's just not convincing.
    id love to think Tyson didnt do it

    but documentaries like that can be played out to be very convincing one way or the other

    Tyson was awesome wasnt he?
    Officially the only saddo who has had a girlfriend

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    Default Re: One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    The backstory makes determining what happened a tad more difficult and everyone will have their opinion either way... so i wont get into that, other that i have more reason to believe he didn't do it. If anything he's guilty of being an arrogant knucklehead at the time so that was his part in his own conviction.

    As to the role of don king in this... From the financial/boxing aspect, Kings no stranger to using fighters and then hanging them out to dry. In this instance, you had the youngest heavyweight champ, ripping through people and then he starts going mental and hits a stumbling block. A string of incidents. Street fights, suicide attempts, horrific interviews, dismal marriages, loss of discipline, drug abuse, culminating in the loss to super underdog douglas...

    Stewart and tillman victories were probably not the greatest comeback but put him in position to fight Evander. I think king saw tyson still on the self destructive past. He could have kept Tyson going and probably cashed him out right away and got a chunk of money right away. I think King chose to cut back on his investment in tyson and the money he was spending was probably breaking even with the money he was stealing from tyson at that point. So between that and the other people looking for a piece. Givens and her mother from the divorce, goons in the entourage, etc. King let/made sure tyson went to prison to dry out. People tend to cut contact and disassociate themselves with people in prison so kept other people from getting close enough to influence him. King makes sure hes in contact, sending tyson what he needs during the time where all the bad press and other stuff cools down. Hypes up tysons return and puts him on a diet of bums (peter "cocoon of terror" mcnobody, duster mathis jr., Bruce "i dunno, felt like he connected...sign my check" seldon, and the aging bruno again before the Holyfield fights.

    In a nutshell, it was more profitable and easier to gain/maintain exclusive control over a post prison tyson in the longer term as you hype his former glory, then it was to pay through the nose to cash out on a tyson express that already beyond his control and was going to derail anyway in the short term. Besides there were plenty of other guys king could cash out in the short term and leave by the wayside while he had tyson simmering. Sometimes it pays to be a vampire and waste a lot of spilled blood while you drain a host completely and other times its better to be a leech, drink slower and keep the host alive to make more blood. King and arum got as big as they were by becoming masters at both (Arum was doing to pacquiao --I still believe that the bradley win was demonstration of power to pacquiao-- to show how bad things could really get if he didnt cooperate)
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    It was a mistake from Don, simple miscalculation from the egotistical money grabbing criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    The backstory makes determining what happened a tad more difficult and everyone will have their opinion either way... so i wont get into that, other that i have more reason to believe he didn't do it. If anything he's guilty of being an arrogant knucklehead at the time so that was his part in his own conviction.

    As to the role of don king in this... From the financial/boxing aspect, Kings no stranger to using fighters and then hanging them out to dry. In this instance, you had the youngest heavyweight champ, ripping through people and then he starts going mental and hits a stumbling block. A string of incidents. Street fights, suicide attempts, horrific interviews, dismal marriages, loss of discipline, drug abuse, culminating in the loss to super underdog douglas...

    Stewart and tillman victories were probably not the greatest comeback but put him in position to fight Evander. I think king saw tyson still on the self destructive past. He could have kept Tyson going and probably cashed him out right away and got a chunk of money right away. I think King chose to cut back on his investment in tyson and the money he was spending was probably breaking even with the money he was stealing from tyson at that point. So between that and the other people looking for a piece. Givens and her mother from the divorce, goons in the entourage, etc. King let/made sure tyson went to prison to dry out. People tend to cut contact and disassociate themselves with people in prison so kept other people from getting close enough to influence him. King makes sure hes in contact, sending tyson what he needs during the time where all the bad press and other stuff cools down. Hypes up tysons return and puts him on a diet of bums (peter "cocoon of terror" mcnobody, duster mathis jr., Bruce "i dunno, felt like he connected...sign my check" seldon, and the aging bruno again before the Holyfield fights.

    In a nutshell, it was more profitable and easier to gain/maintain exclusive control over a post prison tyson in the longer term as you hype his former glory, then it was to pay through the nose to cash out on a tyson express that already beyond his control and was going to derail anyway in the short term. Besides there were plenty of other guys king could cash out in the short term and leave by the wayside while he had tyson simmering. Sometimes it pays to be a vampire and waste a lot of spilled blood while you drain a host completely and other times its better to be a leech, drink slower and keep the host alive to make more blood. King and arum got as big as they were by becoming masters at both (Arum was doing to pacquiao --I still believe that the bradley win was demonstration of power to pacquiao-- to show how bad things could really get if he didnt cooperate)
    Spot on. Not sure why everyone can't recognize this

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    Default Re: One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    No way King deliberately sent Tyson to prison. He could not see into the future. You give King far too much credit.
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    Default Re: One thing that always puzzled me about the Tyson rape case

    Conspiracy theories abound

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    I still believe him innocent and that he was the one raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
    Conspiracy theories abound
    Here is another one.
    Maybe King knew Tyson was quilty and the tight so-and-so knew the money spent on an expensive lawyer would be expensive and wasteful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
    Conspiracy theories abound
    Here is another one.
    Maybe King knew Tyson was quilty and the tight so-and-so knew the money spent on an expensive lawyer would be expensive and wasteful.
    King did not even pay for the lawyer.

    I remember Tyson had to cash a bond that Cus put in place when Mike was a teenager. Tyson acknowledged that only Cus really cared about Mike's future wellbeing.
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