Trump's report card on foreign policy

[TitoFan]

Before the last elections, I voiced my fears about Trump, mostly on the foreign relations side. He can be the world's greatest business man (he's not). But if he's lousy in foreign affairs, the way the world is today, it's a bad deal for us all. The world can't afford a loose cannon with his finger on the Nuclear Button. So far, over a year into his Presidency, my fears have been pretty much confirmed. He's engaged in Twitter wars with Baby Huey over in North Korea.... is threatening a trade war with China, which has sent the markets tumbling and has degraded relations that have always been cordial at best. To top it off, Trump's dealings with Putin are anything but Presidential... and Putin must be laughing his ass off at Trump's ineptness as a world leader. His insistence on building the stupid Mexico wall is going to cost the country billions upon billions... and for what. Everyone knows a physical wall these days is just about useless. We're not in the middle ages, when moats were all the rage. So basically everywhere you look, Trump is alienating allies, and further pissing off the enemies.

I'm sure he's done some good things domestically, but on the global stage he's just not the POTUS he should be. Not that Hillary would've been any better. Come to think of it, not many of the past few Presidents have been adept at handling the foreign matters part of the job. To those who say it doesn't matter, I would say that it does matter. We're not in the '80s anymore. It's a different world.

[Master]

Syria could be next on his hit list.

[El Kabong]

OK so the hurdles Trump faces in foreign affairs are as follows:

North Korea: Kim Jong Un has met with Xi Jinping and is ready to talk with Trump PEACEFULLY.
Syria: Each time the United States attempts to pull out of Syria and have nothing to do with their Civil War between Asad/Russia/China & Al Qaeda/ISIS there's a chemical attack (real or fake) and those attacks could be done by some malevolent forces in Israel actually (I wouldn't be surprised by it). Trump will get us out of Syria peacefully.
Iran: Things have been quiet with Iran recently, but I am sure it'll heat up once people start to realize that China is going to accept the trade deals and/or come to the table and make more fair deals for the US. Things will heat up, but only in the media we're not going to fight with Iran and they aren't going to fight with us.
China: Trade is the big issue here and Trump is going to play a strong hand because he knows China will respect that. They don't want to fight us over trade, they'll bend and new more fair deals will be made.
Russia: As much as some people apparently want us to hit Russia militarily it's not going to happen. Not because Putin is friends with Trump or anything it's just that's an insane proposition, that's end of the world type shit everyone knows it which is why it'll be all posturing and no fighting.
Mexico: They've got a border wall to their south but they complain about if the US puts up a wall, fuck that shit. They've leeched off of us for too long, they are corrupt, the cartels run everything and it's time we put an end to it. They aren't going to go to war with us either, they'll keep pushing illegals to cross the border but that will be dealt with.

I believe Trump has done amazingly well in foreign relations. He got Mattis to basically wipe out ISIS in a month's time (makes you wonder why that didn't happen earlier....it's almost like someone was propping them up).

Brits probably are no fans of Trump, but it's funny because yall don't like Theresa May either and neither does Trump.

[El Kabong]

China’s Embrace of Foreign Cars
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/09/b...eign-cars.html
The latest insurgent is Ford Motor, which has a joint venture based here in Chongqing and has nearly doubled its market share to 4.5 percent in the last two years by introducing new models and expanding output, selling more than 100,000 cars and light truck in March for the first time in a single month. Ford plans to double production again in the coming year by opening two more assembly plants and one of the world’s largest automatic transmission factories.

Great news, a hand well played by Trump

[TitoFan]

OK so the hurdles Trump faces in foreign affairs are as follows:

North Korea: Kim Jong Un has met with Xi Jinping and is ready to talk with Trump PEACEFULLY.
Syria: Each time the United States attempts to pull out of Syria and have nothing to do with their Civil War between Asad/Russia/China & Al Qaeda/ISIS there's a chemical attack (real or fake) and those attacks could be done by some malevolent forces in Israel actually (I wouldn't be surprised by it). Trump will get us out of Syria peacefully.
Iran: Things have been quiet with Iran recently, but I am sure it'll heat up once people start to realize that China is going to accept the trade deals and/or come to the table and make more fair deals for the US. Things will heat up, but only in the media we're not going to fight with Iran and they aren't going to fight with us.
China: Trade is the big issue here and Trump is going to play a strong hand because he knows China will respect that. They don't want to fight us over trade, they'll bend and new more fair deals will be made.
Russia: As much as some people apparently want us to hit Russia militarily it's not going to happen. Not because Putin is friends with Trump or anything it's just that's an insane proposition, that's end of the world type shit everyone knows it which is why it'll be all posturing and no fighting.
Mexico: They've got a border wall to their south but they complain about if the US puts up a wall, fuck that shit. They've leeched off of us for too long, they are corrupt, the cartels run everything and it's time we put an end to it. They aren't going to go to war with us either, they'll keep pushing illegals to cross the border but that will be dealt with.

I believe Trump has done amazingly well in foreign relations. He got Mattis to basically wipe out ISIS in a month's time (makes you wonder why that didn't happen earlier....it's almost like someone was propping them up).

Brits probably are no fans of Trump, but it's funny because yall don't like Theresa May either and neither does Trump.

If Kim Jong Un goes lamb and decides to meet with Trump peacefully, most of the credit will have to go to Xi Jinping, not Trump. And..... I hope Trump prepares well for whenever that meeting happens to be. There's a lot of face to lose should he f*ck it up somehow.

Trump wanting more fair trade with China is fine. I'll only add that this is still an ongoing and future process. We can speculate to how China will react to this... how China will react to that. A lot depends on Trump's skill as a foreign leader. Being a great foreign leader takes more than business savvy. It takes a whole host of people skills that IMO Trump doesn't have. Hopefully all will end well... but for now we'll just have to see.

I certainly hope I don't meet anyone at the neighborhood bar that wants the U.S. to hit Russia militarily. If I ever do, I'll try and have them institutionalized. It's madness. But again, to deal with Putin you need those same skills I alluded to earlier. Trump the businessman doesn't cover all the necessary bases to effectively deal with a manipulative, veteran, cagey politician like Putin. It's necessary to show strength... but you can't be like a bull in a china shop.

No love lost here for Mexico's cartels and corrupt government. But again.... a wall like Trump promised will take billions and years and years to build. It can't be compared to anything to the south of Mexico, simply because we're talking many, many more miles. We have ultra-modern technology to keep the borders patrolled. There are sections of walls in some places which can be used in conjunction with the technology. Excessive illegal flow can be dealt with with sanctions and other tough measures, till Mexico gets the message and does some patrolling of its own.



Just because Trump the businessman is correcting some wrongs on the trade part of global relations, it doesn't make him a successful or good world leader. There's a lot of responsibility that goes along with that. Trump seems to think the U.S. lives in a vacuum, and can just thumb its nose at the rest of the world. That is 1980's thinking.

[Freedom]

Will Trump risk starting a nuclear war over a false flag?

This “False Flag” in Syria Could Launch World War 3

‘Crucial crossroads’: Beijing warns against military intervention in Syria

Beijing has warned against military intervention at a “crucial phase” in the Syrian conflict, urging countries not to jump to conclusions over the alleged chemical attack in Douma. The US is considering a strike against Damascus.

[TitoFan]

Will Trump risk starting a nuclear war over a false flag?

This “False Flag” in Syria Could Launch World War 3

‘Crucial crossroads’: Beijing warns against military intervention in Syria

Beijing has warned against military intervention at a “crucial phase” in the Syrian conflict, urging countries not to jump to conclusions over the alleged chemical attack in Douma. The US is considering a strike against Damascus.

Damn it, I'm just gonna come out and say it.

Is it worth going to war over Syria?? This should probably be posted under Extreme Viewpoints or something, but... what the hell?? International tensions are high enough already. If there's gonna be a conflict between superpowers..... shouldn't it be over an issue that threatens their own national security?

[El Kabong]

It's easy to think that Trump is a bull in a china shop in how he treats his adversaries foreign and domestic, but you forget, the guy has charm. Yes Trump has charm and he can take whoever hates him and make them love him or at the very least disarm them. That is EXACTLY how he has handled Xi Jinping, Trump doesn't insult him or call him names or do anything other than lavish him and the nation of China with praise 'They've done well. They have very smart people that made these deals, smarter than our side' shit like that AND to have his granddaughter sing in Mandarin for Xi Jinping, that goes a very long way in their culture. China has big issues of their own, we're worried because they've been buying our debt, but trust me, China is going to need that in the future, they are facing a bigger population problem than we are.

The Kim Jong Un deal is a crazy one there were a lot of factors at play but Trump has apparently cleared all the hurdles and we're on our way to getting rid of some nukes and chilling down Lil Kim. If Lil Kim plays nice maybe he'll be able to help his people more which wouldn't be bad for him.


Ending the "catch and release" process and getting the National Guard called down to the border is a good start. Holding NAFTA over Mexico's head is also important.


Trump showing sufficient force when it's asked of him, following through on threats, that's taking a position of strength. He's done very well. I think he has done as well as Reagan did if not better in his first year in office. Why I can say that is because Obama used a lot of Executive Orders and Trump just trashed them all, all that needless regulation freed up the economy and we're getting back up to run how we need to.