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    pac beats floyd? you honestly think pac can absorb punishment the way cotto can? pac is a pressure fighter who's defense is his offence. cotto is used to being in wars where he gives as good as he gets. he's like a tank, he'll roll thru anything to get a chance to connect. pac throws punches to avoid getting hit by punches. mayweather would counter the lunging and off balance pac all night and pac would wilt over the middle rounds. he'd throw fewer and fewer punches until mayweather stalked him and took him out.

    remember if they were to fight, there would be no doubt pac would not be on steroids.

    as for martinez, you think he has the defense to take floyd? you think floyd's going to give him a chance to throw that giant arching left hook everyone has a hard on for? floyd would be on the other side of the ring by the time that thing came even close to it's intended target. floyd would probably only agree to fight him at a ridiculous catch weight of 152lbs or so... ensuring that martinez was weight drained and lacked stamina. a weight drained martinez is slower and weaker, can't absorb the laser like punches of mayweather and gets taken out in the late rounds.

    i have to remind you, martinez, like pac wouyld not be on steroids if he fought mayweather... just something to consider.

    the outcomes are easy to predict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    pac beats floyd? you honestly think pac can absorb punishment the way cotto can? pac is a pressure fighter who's defense is his offence. cotto is used to being in wars where he gives as good as he gets. he's like a tank, he'll roll thru anything to get a chance to connect. pac throws punches to avoid getting hit by punches. mayweather counter the lunging and off balance pac all night and pac would wilt over the middle rounds. he'd throw fewer and fewer punches until mayweather stalked him and took him out.

    remember if they were to fight, there would be no doubt pac would not be on steroids.

    as for martinez, you think he has the defense to take floyd? you think floyd's going to give him a chance to throw that giant arching left hook everyone has a hardon for? floyd would be on the other side of the ring by the time that thing came even close to it's intended target. floyd would probably also agree to fight him at a rediculous catch weight 152lbs or so... ensuring that martinez was weight drained and lacked stamina. a weight drained martinez is slower and weaker, can't absorb the laser like punches of mayweather and gets taken out in the late rounds.

    i have to remind you, martinez, like pac wouyld not be on steroids if he fought mayweather... just something to consider.

    the outcomes are easy to predict.
    Dude some of your posts are inane, loopin right of martinez, wtf you be smokin

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    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post

    Dude some of your posts are inane, loopin right of martinez, wtf you be smokin
    what? who said looping right? you need to practice your reading skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by armin View Post

    Dude some of your posts are inane, loopin right of martinez, wtf you be smokin
    what? who said looping right? you need to practice your reading skills.
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    I think both could beat Floyd, they have the tools too. BUT, Floyd is too smart and would have a game plan to make sure he won.

    Pac he would counter then take advantage when Pac's leg cramp kicks in in the last third of the fight.

    Martinez he would dance around and jab his face off.


    They would both have to be tactically better than Floyd, which I don't think they have the smarts to do.

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    Default Re: Pac and Martinez to beat Floyd?

    The winner of a fight is never predetermined I have Floyd favourite other both though.

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    I think Floyd beats both if he sticks to boxing and doesn't try to fight the way he did against Cotto But Martinez is a very risky and tough fight which I wouldn't put my money on.
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    If you were watching Floyd made the fight a bit competitive, by standing toe to toe with Cotto Floyd
    was punch perfect for the first 6 rounds. Then he just changed tactics he won the fight well I feel
    he could have made it a lot easy er. Floyd can made extremely good fighters look ordainer that's what
    he done with Cotto. Floyd defence is second to none you got to hit him to beat him, he has way to much
    for Pac and Martinez.!

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    Martinez - First fight against Pw, he used right hook to the body and head to great effect. He varied the left as well, often throwing a very short sneaky lead left.

    Martinez is much more than just a left hand.

    Martinez has more speed and power than Floyd.

    Martinez vs Floyd-martinez slight favorite

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    pac beats floyd? you honestly think pac can absorb punishment the way cotto can? pac is a pressure fighter who's defense is his offence. cotto is used to being in wars where he gives as good as he gets. he's like a tank, he'll roll thru anything to get a chance to connect. pac throws punches to avoid getting hit by punches. mayweather would counter the lunging and off balance pac all night and pac would wilt over the middle rounds. he'd throw fewer and fewer punches until mayweather stalked him and took him out.

    remember if they were to fight, there would be no doubt pac would not be on steroids.

    as for martinez, you think he has the defense to take floyd? you think floyd's going to give him a chance to throw that giant arching left hook everyone has a hard on for? floyd would be on the other side of the ring by the time that thing came even close to it's intended target. floyd would probably only agree to fight him at a ridiculous catch weight of 152lbs or so... ensuring that martinez was weight drained and lacked stamina. a weight drained martinez is slower and weaker, can't absorb the laser like punches of mayweather and gets taken out in the late rounds.

    i have to remind you, martinez, like pac wouyld not be on steroids if he fought mayweather... just something to consider.

    the outcomes are easy to predict.

    Are you trying to say that Martinez is on steroids? Do you have any evidence to back this up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    pac beats floyd? you honestly think pac can absorb punishment the way cotto can? pac is a pressure fighter who's defense is his offence. cotto is used to being in wars where he gives as good as he gets. he's like a tank, he'll roll thru anything to get a chance to connect. pac throws punches to avoid getting hit by punches. mayweather would counter the lunging and off balance pac all night and pac would wilt over the middle rounds. he'd throw fewer and fewer punches until mayweather stalked him and took him out.

    remember if they were to fight, there would be no doubt pac would not be on steroids.

    as for martinez, you think he has the defense to take floyd? you think floyd's going to give him a chance to throw that giant arching left hook everyone has a hard on for? floyd would be on the other side of the ring by the time that thing came even close to it's intended target. floyd would probably only agree to fight him at a ridiculous catch weight of 152lbs or so... ensuring that martinez was weight drained and lacked stamina. a weight drained martinez is slower and weaker, can't absorb the laser like punches of mayweather and gets taken out in the late rounds.

    i have to remind you, martinez, like pac wouyld not be on steroids if he fought mayweather... just something to consider.

    the outcomes are easy to predict.

    Are you trying to say that Martinez is on steroids? Do you have any evidence to back this up?
    not at all. i'm saying he won't be on steroids if he fights mayweather.

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    I just don't see Floyd fighting Martinez. The guy is too big for him. I mean what weight is this fight supposed to be at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    I just don't see Floyd fighting Martinez. The guy is too big for him. I mean what weight is this fight supposed to be at?
    If Berto beats Ortiz in their rematch, I bet that's the next likely fight for Floyd.

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    as much as pac struggled with marquez the counter puncher. it's the same way pbf struggles a left hand linear punch not necessarily a jab. i believe pac has a good chance this time. pac has a left hand lead faster and more powerful than cotto i believe.
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    Default Re: Pac and Martinez to beat Floyd?

    Every boxer has that one guy that he has, or could have, all the trouble in the world against. For Pac, it's marquez...and he stepped in the ring with the guy 3 times, good for him. I can definitely see Pac being that guy for Floyd, especially now. Hes a southpaw and he doesn't stop coming, and he has a slight slight age advantage. In the past, when I watched Floyd, as soon as his back touched those ropes, he moved, got back to open space. His last 5 fights or so he hasn't been doing that, he stays their and gets roughed up a bit. He even got it a little against Ortiz. It's these moments where I see Pacman doing alot of damage to Floyd because unlike Ortiz and Cotto, Pac won't let him out of there without paying a hefty toll. And that will start from Round 1. If Cotto can do that kind of damage to floyd, I think pac can increase it by 30% to 40%. And I think it would force Floyd into a slugfest in the later rounds, which is why I think the fight would be epic. As far as Martinez is concerned, I don't know how excited I could get for that fight. They're both counter punchers and would be waiting on eachother all night. The rumor is that Martinez has floated an offer to Mayweather where Mayweather would take 80% of the purse. But it's just a rumor.

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