Now that De La Hoya has retired, what should his record have actually been??

[BIG H]

Now that De La Hoya has retired, I am looking at all his close, controversial fights and seeing where he was robbed and where he got a gift!

Whitaker - I had De La Hoya winning by one point by virture of winning the last round

Quartey - I thought Quartey won this, I can remember my scorecard, but I had Quartey up by 1 or 2 points

Trinidad - I had Oscar winning this one

Mosely II - I thought De La Hoya won this quite clearly and was robbed!

Sturm - Oscar got a lucky decision

PBF - I had PBF winning this by a couple of rounds


Any thoughts?

[Greig]

Pretty much agree with all of your post.

The only one I don't agree with is Mosley II - I copped a lot of shit for it on here at the time but I honestly believe that one could have went either way. Mosley did a lot of heavy body work late in the fight. Of course he was on the roids at the time, so maybe Oscar should have won it...

Sturm definitely beat him.

Quartey fight was very close, Oscars big last round saved him. I think I had Quartey just.

Oscar definitely beat Trinidad.

Thought the PBF was very close, PBFjust.

[BIG H]

Pretty much agree with all of your post.

The only one I don't agree with is Mosley II - I copped a lot of shit for it on here at the time but I honestly believe that one could have went either way. Mosley did a lot of heavy body work late in the fight. Of course he was on the roids at the time, so maybe Oscar should have won it...

Sturm definitely beat him.

Quartey fight was very close, Oscars big last round saved him. I think I had Quartey just.

Oscar definitely beat Trinidad.

Thought the PBF was very close, PBFjust.

Mosely II was a strange one, because all 3 jusges had it the same, but people ringside and the boxing press all though DLH was robbed. I had it 115-113 to DLH. Mosely wasn't the same fighter as he was in the first fight, which I thought he won by 4 rounds.

[Tins06]

Oscar deffo beat Tito...in fact from my perspective he owned him...no idea how that decision went to Tito.

I had DLH a point up for PBF. but hardly anything happened in this fight until the last few rounds wich Mayweather won but for the rounds where hardly anything was done i could only give it to oscar for landing a few unclean body shots.

[Mark TKO]

Looking at his record you have to say that a record of 39-6 may does not look as phenomenal as DLH's career was !

Hell, in the future younger fans may look at this and think what was so good about this guy - he lost 15% of his fights (15.3846% if he is the rain man )

Fans in the know however know full well that all his points defeats could have easily gone the other way - the Sturm win was the only one you could class as a gift I feel.

So at the end of the day that leaves stoppage defeats to two future legends (they are already) Hopkins , a naturally bigger guy, and then Manny, younger and p4p king, who as well as being brilliant on the night fought him at the end of his career when the tank was empty.


39-6 doesn't do him justice does it.....

43-2 would have looked much better

[smashup]

Sturm and Floyd won in my eyes and the Quartey fight too close bot i think Oscar snatched it with that amazing 12th round onslaught.

To be honest i don't really care about a fighters stats too much and it's the way they entertain me that i remember most and Oscar was brilliant at entertaining 9 times out of 10 - and put everything into his fights

[robinswe01]

Hell, in the future younger fans may look at this and think what was so good about this guy - he lost 15% of his fights (15.3846% if he is the rain man )

I think you are doing Dela Hoya an injustice. He only lost 13.3333333333% of his fights.

6/45 x 100. =13.33333

LOL

[SweetPea]

I had Whitaker winning 7-5. However, that was a sloppy fight and there were a ton of close rounds, so I have no problem with someone scoring the fight for Oscar. The problem I had with that decision was that the scorecards were so lopsided, that you got the impression the judges were giving Oscar the benefit of the doubt in every close round.

I thought Quartey clearly won 7 rounds against Oscar and deserved the victory.

I had the Trinidad fight a draw. I thought Oscar was up 6-2 and on his way to an easy decision, and then he completely gave away the last 4 rounds. It bugs me a little when people defend Oscar and say he was robbed, because it's his own fault for running and giving away the last rounds of the fight.

I had Mosley II a draw as well.

I had Floyd winning 8-4.

[Kel]

Now that De La Hoya has retired, I am looking at all his close, controversial fights and seeing where he was robbed and where he got a gift!

Whitaker - I had De La Hoya winning by one point by virture of winning the last round

Quartey - I thought Quartey won this, I can remember my scorecard, but I had Quartey up by 1 or 2 points

Trinidad - I had Oscar winning this one

Mosely II - I thought De La Hoya won this quite clearly and was robbed!

Sturm - Oscar got a lucky decision

PBF - I had PBF winning this by a couple of rounds


Any thoughts?

I think your spot on with all of that.

[ICB]

Now that De La Hoya has retired, I am looking at all his close, controversial fights and seeing where he was robbed and where he got a gift!

Whitaker - I had De La Hoya winning by one point by virture of winning the last round

Quartey - I thought Quartey won this, I can remember my scorecard, but I had Quartey up by 1 or 2 points

Trinidad - I had Oscar winning this one

Mosely II - I thought De La Hoya won this quite clearly and was robbed!

Sturm - Oscar got a lucky decision

PBF - I had PBF winning this by a couple of rounds


Any thoughts?

Whitaker fight = Draw
Quartey fight = Quartey by 1 point
Trinidad fight = ODLH by 1 point
Mosley fight 2 = ODLH by a few points
Sturm fight = Sturm by 2 points
Mayweather fight = Mayweather by 3 points

[killersheep]

Now that De La Hoya has retired, I am looking at all his close, controversial fights and seeing where he was robbed and where he got a gift!

Whitaker - I had De La Hoya winning by one point by virture of winning the last round

Quartey - I thought Quartey won this, I can remember my scorecard, but I had Quartey up by 1 or 2 points

Trinidad - I had Oscar winning this one

Mosely II - I thought De La Hoya won this quite clearly and was robbed!

Sturm - Oscar got a lucky decision

PBF - I had PBF winning this by a couple of rounds


Any thoughts?

Whitaker fight = Draw
Quartey fight = Quartey by 1 point
Trinidad fight = ODLH by 1 point
Mosley fight 2 = ODLH by a few points
Sturm fight = Sturm by 2 points
Mayweather fight = Mayweather by 3 points

And where have you been young man?

[BoomBoom]

18-26-1 (14ko)

[ICB]

Now that De La Hoya has retired, I am looking at all his close, controversial fights and seeing where he was robbed and where he got a gift!

Whitaker - I had De La Hoya winning by one point by virture of winning the last round

Quartey - I thought Quartey won this, I can remember my scorecard, but I had Quartey up by 1 or 2 points

Trinidad - I had Oscar winning this one

Mosely II - I thought De La Hoya won this quite clearly and was robbed!

Sturm - Oscar got a lucky decision

PBF - I had PBF winning this by a couple of rounds


Any thoughts?

Whitaker fight = Draw
Quartey fight = Quartey by 1 point
Trinidad fight = ODLH by 1 point
Mosley fight 2 = ODLH by a few points
Sturm fight = Sturm by 2 points
Mayweather fight = Mayweather by 3 points

And where have you been young man?

Been busy with the new baby man, and i been sorting some stuff out with my life. I try to come on as much as i can, i haven't really been following boxing. About 2 days ago i recently tried to catch up on the latest fights, how you been Greg ? hope all is well bro.

[Spicoli]

Back amongst the ranks eh Ice.Hows the Baby?

[ICB]

Back amongst the ranks eh Ice.Hows the Baby?

Hey Spicoli whats up ? the baby is good thanks bro. Im trying to currently catch up on all the boxing i've missed, i just read that Breidis Prescott will be fighting Edwin Valero ? wow. Im gonna download and watch Wright/Williams, Holt/Bradley, when i can it seems like i've missed out on quite a few good ones.