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    Default Snooker hits a new low..

    Telling you now Higgins v Davis was bent not in a million years does Higgins get beat by 52 year old Davis the first to 13. Check this out in the NOTW

    How world snooker champion John Higgins plots to betray his fans for cash | News Of The World

    They are all at it greedy fuckers!!!

    That Maguire is the worst for it, he has thrown so many matches it is unreal.

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    Default Re: Snooker hits a new low..

    Well they caught him hook line and sinker but I hate the newspapers more than I hate sporting cheats so I hope he manages to get away with it.

    Personally though, although it is clearly wrong I don't think it's that big a deal. I mean he's proposing to drop a few frames to allow people to rig the betting, and gambling is hardly an honourable pursuit.

    He doesn't need the money clearly, so I imagine maybe it's an adreneline thing, the kind of reason why people gamble in the first place. He takes a huge risk in return for the potential of massive reward, isn't that the essence of what gambling is all about?

    All of the 'good honest punters' who need to be protected from his cheating would do exactly the same thing in his shoes and that's the great irony for me.



    Higgins was a mug though, he should have known not to trust a man with a voice like Jig Saw. That was always going to end badly.
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    Default Re: Snooker hits a new low..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Well they caught him hook line and sinker but I hate the newspapers more than I hate sporting cheats so I hope he manages to get away with it.

    Personally though, although it is clearly wrong I don't think it's that big a deal. I mean he's proposing to drop a few frames to allow people to rig the betting, and gambling is hardly an honourable pursuit.

    He doesn't need the money clearly, so I imagine maybe it's an adreneline thing, the kind of reason why people gamble in the first place. He takes a huge risk in return for the potential of massive reward, isn't that the essence of what gambling is all about?

    All of the 'good honest punters' who need to be protected from his cheating would do exactly the same thing in his shoes and that's the great irony for me.
    Nothing wrong with it you serious?

    Makes my blood boil mate, this is just the tip of the Iceberg, he is bent as fuck he threw the game in the world champs against Steve Davis as well without a shadow of a doubt, his manager who is also a member of the board of the outfit that runs world snooker arranged this!!!!!

    He will get a 6 year ban for this and his career will be over which it should be the greedy cunt.

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    Corruption is ALWAYS a bad thing for everybody, fans, the whole game. HE doesn't need money? You're seriously underestimating the human greed dear Hobbit, probably that it's due to your naive and kind nature (like any hobbits) but even a man with a lot of money is often willing to do the shittiest of things in order to get a bit more. This guy deserves a terrible ban and an accusation for corruption, I am not a fan of Pool/Snooker at all but it doesn't change the gravity of what has just been done.
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    Default Re: Snooker hits a new low..

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Corruption is ALWAYS a bad thing for everybody, fans, the whole game. HE doesn't need money? You're seriously underestimating the human greed dear Hobbit, probably that it's due to your naive and kind nature (like any hobbits) but even a man with a lot of money is often willing to do the shittiest of things in order to get a bit more. This guy deserves a terrible ban and an accusation for corruption, I am not a fan of Pool/Snooker at all but it doesn't change the gravity of what has just been done.

    I'm far from naive, I actually thing Paul said it right when he wrote to the Romans, 'There is none that do good, no not one' and in Genesis '...the thoughts of mens hearts was only evil continually...'.


    I'm just not suprised at all. For us it may be a great sport and an institution, but work within it year in and year out and you'll just see it as a business or workplace like any other.

    And like in any business, people find ways to skim a bit extra off the top. I'm not justifying it, not al at all, I'm just saying an awful lot of people do it.


    He obviously had his reasons, and weighed up the risks, and it backfired on him.

    I expect he will lose his MBE/OBE thingy as well.

    It's a shame really when no actual harm was done, only in the minds of those who seek to keep the purity of sport untainted.

    If he hadn't been exposed nobody would ever have known or cared.

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    He is using the old "i was afraid for my life so just went along with it" excuse

    Fair play to the lad i'd use that one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Well they caught him hook line and sinker but I hate the newspapers more than I hate sporting cheats so I hope he manages to get away with it.

    Personally though, although it is clearly wrong I don't think it's that big a deal. I mean he's proposing to drop a few frames to allow people to rig the betting, and gambling is hardly an honourable pursuit.

    He doesn't need the money clearly, so I imagine maybe it's an adreneline thing, the kind of reason why people gamble in the first place. He takes a huge risk in return for the potential of massive reward, isn't that the essence of what gambling is all about?

    All of the 'good honest punters' who need to be protected from his cheating would do exactly the same thing in his shoes and that's the great irony for me.
    Nothing wrong with it you serious?

    Makes my blood boil mate, this is just the tip of the Iceberg, he is bent as fuck he threw the game in the world champs against Steve Davis as well without a shadow of a doubt, his manager who is also a member of the board of the outfit that runs world snooker arranged this!!!!!

    He will get a 6 year ban for this and his career will be over which it should be the greedy cunt.
    Yeah I expect his career will indeed probably be over. I just think it's probably not as cut and ry as it seems though. What I mean is a lot of snooker guys seem to be doing this and just to label them all as bent and crooked as if it's individuals with no morals is probably not accurate.

    I expect he had reasons beyond just wanting the money.

    Just off the top of my head I'm guessing that the kind of people who can pay 300,000 Euro's to fix a few frames of snooker must be pretty powerful and influential men. They obviously have a lot of clout and influence behind them and getting in with them probably benefits Higgins and the like a lot more than just this money.

    I guess these are the type of groups that can set up events, put sponsership into the game, build it overseas etc, generally the people you want in with if you want to play a significant role in the development of the sport which is also your livlihood. That would also explain why that snooker official guy is involved as well.

    The thing is EVERY sport, EVERY institution, EVERY small workplace is corrupt to some degree. People conspire together ways to make the system benefit them, we all do it, even those of us at the bottom, with the exception of Missy and Miles of course.

    What I'm saying is that as much as we disapprove, probably many of us would end up doing the same thing under the same situation.

    Snooker is a funny sport. I know Barry Hearn is trying to regenerate it but it's being dying for years. Apart from the annual World Championships people don't care about it and I doubt there is much money for the rest of the season, certainly not the kind that Higgins, McGuire, Lee et al can make through getting in these syndicate crowds.

    He'll pay for it I'm sure, and no doubt he's let himself and his family down, but ultimately he's just taking a risk to secure himself and his family financially.

    Right now the spotlight is on snooker because of the championships, for the other 11 months of the year the world at large doesn't care, and I imagine it's pretty easy to justify in your head how throwing a frame here and there in a few less important tournaments in exchange for getting enough money to secure yourself is not going to harm anybody.

    Like I say, Missy and Miles will say it's because I have the morals of Dorian Gray, but the reality is that things are always shades of grey
    Last edited by Kev; 05-02-2010 at 02:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Telling you now Higgins v Davis was bent not in a million years does Higgins get beat by 52 year old Davis the first to 13. Check this out in the NOTW

    How world snooker champion John Higgins plots to betray his fans for cash | News Of The World

    They are all at it greedy fuckers!!!

    That Maguire is the worst for it, he has thrown so many matches it is unreal.
    The thing is there is a big difference between losing a frame in a match and throwing a match, especially in this tournament. They would have to pay Higgins over £1m to throw that game, because he is the best player in the world on his day and could've won the tournament and afortune in prize money and other benefits. I also do believe that Higgins is desperate to win. He may throw a frame, but I can't believe he would throw a match in the world championship
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Telling you now Higgins v Davis was bent not in a million years does Higgins get beat by 52 year old Davis the first to 13. Check this out in the NOTW

    How world snooker champion John Higgins plots to betray his fans for cash | News Of The World

    They are all at it greedy fuckers!!!

    That Maguire is the worst for it, he has thrown so many matches it is unreal.
    The thing is there is a big difference between losing a frame in a match and throwing a match, especially in this tournament. They would have to pay Higgins over £1m to throw that game, because he is the best player in the world on his day and could've won the tournament and afortune in prize money and other benefits. I also do believe that Higgins is desperate to win. He may throw a frame, but I can't believe he would throw a match in the world championship
    Mate Davis was 18/1 to win that match £1 million quid is small compared what these people can make at them prices, I am not saying 100% he threw it, but the shots he was missing were very fishy add to that Davis hasn't really beat anyone of singnificance in the last 9 years he has made 3 century breaks in 4 years, looks dodgy to me especially first to 13, Davis was amazing in the first session after that he was shocking and an out of sorts Robertson raped him in the next round pretty easily.

    Hard to say really but Higgins is what 35 years old? He is not got many years left as a top player earning decent money, maybe he was seeing this as a little retirement thing, no doubt he has been getting encouraged by that cunt of a manager who is bent as they come.. Who knows though in reality.

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