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    Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr set to be ordered as final WBC eliminator to determine next Tyson Fury opponent

    THE WBC are set to order a fight between Deontay Wilder and Andy Ruiz Jr, according to President Mauricio Sulaimán.

    Wilder returned to the ring after more than a year out on Saturday and brutally knocked out Robert Helenius in the first round.

    Sulaimán was impressed with the American's power and revealed he will be ordered to fight Ruiz at a WBC convention in Mexico next week.

    The winner of that clash will become the mandatory challenger to face Tyson Fury, assuming the Gypsy King beats Derek Chisora on December 3.

    However, Wilder has other targets in his sights including Anthony Joshua.

    Wilder's manager Shelly Finkel revealed he had an offer from Eddie Hearn to make a fight between the pair, but he wanted Wilder to get the Helenius bout under his belt first.

    Talks in 2018 over a proposed bout fell through but both parties now seem up for it with Wilder eyeing a fight in Africa.

    He said: “It’s still the number one fight in the world for everyone. Everywhere I go, people always talk about me versus Joshua.

    “We both have roots from there, I think it would be an amazing place to have it, to go back home. To go back to the motherland.

    “A continent full of our people. I can just see that being an amazing fight, win, lose or draw.

    “I think we’ll get the respect and love from all the people over there.”

    Meanwhile, Fury is set to face Chisora in Cardiff and showed he is getting into good shape after working hard in the gym.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr

    Would love to see Wilder vs AJ but Wilder vs Ruiz is interesting also. For AJ's career I hope Wilder fights Ruiz next and AJ gets some confidence and rounds under his belt- but from a selfish standpoint I would prefer Wilder fight AJ next. Great/interesting style match up- AJ won't have to worry about being outmaneuvered by Deontay and Deontay won't have to worry about AJ having the mental toughness, engine, elusiveness, and chin of Tyson Fury.

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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr

    Wilder beats Ruiz with relative ease and stops him just before midway.

    I am sure even Wilder will not want to face Fury again and will prefer facing AJ.
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    Yeah. Zero point in another Wilder-Fury fight. I've always said I'd love to see Wilder vs Joshua, and who knows... it could still happen. Wilder has to get by Ruiz first, and from what I've read, common opponents like Luis Ortiz give Wilder a big edge. To me it depends which Ruiz shows up... but I'd have to give the edge to Wilder also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Wilder beats Ruiz with relative ease and stops him just before midway.

    I am sure even Wilder will not want to face Fury again and will prefer facing AJ.
    I wonder about Ruiz being easy. Deontay can make anyone look easy if he lands a solid right, but Ruiz is skilled and a sleeper. I may bet on Ruiz for that fight- as dangerous as Wilder is, Ruiz is very skilled and the more complete boxer. This will be an interesting fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Wilder beats Ruiz with relative ease and stops him just before midway.

    I am sure even Wilder will not want to face Fury again and will prefer facing AJ.
    I wonder about Ruiz being easy. Deontay can make anyone look easy if he lands a solid right, but Ruiz is skilled and a sleeper. I may bet on Ruiz for that fight- as dangerous as Wilder is, Ruiz is very skilled and the more complete boxer. This will be an interesting fight.
    Ruiz had his day in the sun and was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. He is not a top tier heavyweight and below in the second division with Parker.
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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Wilder beats Ruiz with relative ease and stops him just before midway.

    I am sure even Wilder will not want to face Fury again and will prefer facing AJ.
    I wonder about Ruiz being easy. Deontay can make anyone look easy if he lands a solid right, but Ruiz is skilled and a sleeper. I may bet on Ruiz for that fight- as dangerous as Wilder is, Ruiz is very skilled and the more complete boxer. This will be an interesting fight.
    Ruiz had his day in the sun and was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. He is not a top tier heavyweight and below in the second division with Parker.
    He just beat Ortiz, albeit an old Ortiz. With the exception of AJ, Fury & Usyk, name me any other HW’s with a better name on their record?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Wilder beats Ruiz with relative ease and stops him just before midway.

    I am sure even Wilder will not want to face Fury again and will prefer facing AJ.
    I wonder about Ruiz being easy. Deontay can make anyone look easy if he lands a solid right, but Ruiz is skilled and a sleeper. I may bet on Ruiz for that fight- as dangerous as Wilder is, Ruiz is very skilled and the more complete boxer. This will be an interesting fight.
    I agree with you here. Thing is, Ruiz can get clipped, but he has the ability to take a punch and get back up. AJ saw that. What if Ruiz gets back up after Wilder tags him, which he most likely will, and starts timing Wilder's wide open shots with the amazing handspeed he has?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
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    Wilder beats Ruiz with relative ease and stops him just before midway.

    I am sure even Wilder will not want to face Fury again and will prefer facing AJ.
    I wonder about Ruiz being easy. Deontay can make anyone look easy if he lands a solid right, but Ruiz is skilled and a sleeper. I may bet on Ruiz for that fight- as dangerous as Wilder is, Ruiz is very skilled and the more complete boxer. This will be an interesting fight.
    I agree with you here. Thing is, Ruiz can get clipped, but he has the ability to take a punch and get back up. AJ saw that. What if Ruiz gets back up after Wilder tags him, which he most likely will, and starts timing Wilder's wide open shots with the amazing handspeed he has?
    Ruiz is not getting up if Wilder connects. If he miraculously does Wilder will not be careless as AJ was and finish the job when the time is right.
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    Default Re: Ruiz v Wilder ordered by WBC...

    Have received advanced footage . But can see it a 50-50 fight. Tons of questions left on Wilder out of the Fury woodchipper(s). Ruiz is a very capable combo puncher up close. But my lean to Wilder is because Ruiz always gets clipped bad before a fight breaks out.


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    Default Re: Deontay Wilder vs Andy Ruiz Jr

    I actually hope this fight comes off, I'd be interested to see it. with what is around and available at the moment, it's a pretty good fight.
    Despite being a fat fuck, (I can say that because I'm one) Ruiz has good movement , technique and quick hands for a HW. Things that have frustrated Wider in the past. And despite me giving Wilder plenty of criticism in the past, if he gets past a Ruiz that hopefully will be in a tiny bit of shape , that would be a good scalp for him .
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    "For me, I feel like I can take a punch. I'm not saying that [Wilder] doesn't hit hard or nothing," Ruiz Jr told Boxing Social. "I'm gonna get in, I'm gonna throw my combinations, I'm gonna be fast, explosive, and I throw that right hand, in his temple, and he's gonna go down ... We're right here trying to stay busy and trying to stay focused."

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    “Andy Ruiz presents absolutely no threat to a disciplined Deontay Wilder,” Scott told Casinos en Ligne. “I’ve been going over my notes and from film study I see Andy Ruiz has a problem with disciplined fighters.

    “The only hope Andy Ruiz has is if you give him an opportunity. But if you stick to a game plan he’s easy to shut down. He’s a good fighter but we all have our loopholes, Andy’s is he can’t beat disciplined fighters.

    “When AJ fought him the first time he was not as disciplined as when he fought him the second time. The minute AJ fought with a systemised game plan it was a shut out. An old Chris Arreola, who got with Joe Goosen and stuck with a game plan, beat Ruiz in my opinion by two rounds. Every time I look at the tape, I have Arreola winning by two rounds, it definitely wasn’t as wide as the judges had it.

    “Andy Ruiz is going to come to Deontay and when he does he puts himself at risk. We’re going to make him reach, he has to, we’re taller. When he reaches he’s going to pay like he’s never paid before.

    “A disciplined, systemised Deontay Wilder has no problem with Andy Ruiz. Does that mean Andy is a bad fighter, absolutely not, but Deontay with a game plan; high hand up, chin behind the left knee, patience knowing he’s going to have his big moments - it’s a shutout, a painful, scary shutout.”

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