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    Default Has there ever been?

    A fighter who just dominated their era. I mean never lost a fight, never got knocked down, never had any close fights etc?

    Obviously Marciano wouldnt count as he was dropped and had a few close fights, but I'm just wandering if there has ever been someone, from any weight division, any era in any time period at all who won every fight, was never put down or given a standing 8 count, never had a split decision or controversial win awarded to them?

    Fighters around today, I can't see anyone like that. Mayweather comes closest but he had a very close fight with Castillo so he's out. Hatton has been put down so again he's out, Calzaghe has had some very close calls so he's out again.

    I'm sure there must be someone somewhere, maybe Britkid will know of him?

    The criteria then to recap.

    Must have won a world title.

    Must have never lost, never been put down, never had a split decision and never had a fight where you could argue the other guy could have won.

    Any era, any weight division.

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    Well, Roy Jones comes close to your description...
    Too bad he lost

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    What about Ricardo Lopez?

    51-0-0 flyweight champ

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    What about Ricardo Lopez?

    51-0-0 flyweight champ

    Hmm possibly, lets wait to see what Britkid has to say. I'm sure he will know of a round where he got rocked by a big punch in his 5th pro fight or something.

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_One77
    What about Ricardo Lopez?

    51-0-0 flyweight champ
    Just checked his record. He had one draw too so he's out. Also put down in the same fight for the first time in his career. Fight stopped due to Lopez being cut and TD awarded.

    He's out then.

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    ove sventke? or however his named is spelled sorry. the only thing that bothers me is that he never fought against u.s competition

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    Quote Originally Posted by TaxanBaller
    ove sventke? or however his named is spelled sorry. the only thing that bothers me is that he never fought against u.s competition
    You had me worried for a minute but I see he won a spilit decision against Bryon Mitchell and scanning through his record he had a couple of other fights where one judge gave it even so thankfully he's out too.

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    Ricardo Lopez was the most dominant. He was the best boxer in the division for 10 years. Period.
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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    zab judah

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    There was a Cuban Heavyweight who fought inthe Olympics, I'm not sure anyone comes close to dominance, too bad he never turned pro, but he didn't want to fight Ali

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    Ricardo Lopez as a Strawweight, undoubtdly meets that criteria.

    Carlos Monzon never looked like he was going to lose, maybe the first Valdez was close-ish

    James J Jeffries dominated his era, he had trouble with Corbett, but still won both fights by KO.

    Brian Mitchell with hindsight was a dominant undefeated 130lber, but he had the draw with Lopez.

    As a Welterweight World Champion, Robinson was untouchable.

    Michael Spinks totally dominated his era as Light Heavyweight World Champion.




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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    hmm Bilbo, interesting topic.. I guess it depends on how long of a time frame you are talking, I mean how long did they have to reign for.. IMO, Mike Tyson is a good one, he was never anywhere close to being in the slightest trouble in a proffessional fight until he lost, really. Also Ricardo Lopez is a good one. Pernell Whittaker would take it though, maybe? He really never lost a fight until Trinidad, and was untouched in his prime. At lighweight, he was practically robbed many times in that any rounds went to the opponenet, he was completely untouched forever and the fighters people picked to finally beat himn didn't(Chavez, DLH)

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    hmm Bilbo, interesting topic.. I guess it depends on how long of a time frame you are talking, I mean how long did they have to reign for.. IMO, Mike Tyson is a good one, he was never anywhere close to being in the slightest trouble in a proffessional fight until he lost, really. Also Ricardo Lopez is a good one. Pernell Whittaker would take it though, maybe? He really never lost a fight until Trinidad, and was untouched in his prime. At lighweight, he was practically robbed many times in that any rounds went to the opponenet, he was completely untouched forever and the fighters people picked to finally beat himn didn't(Chavez, DLH)
    Tyson was staggered by Bruno, Smith and Tucker and Whitaker was decked by Mayweather, so on Bilbo's criteria, neither can count.

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    JACK JOHNSON dominated his era and towards the end of his reighn he took dives as Bert points out. he dived and was supposedly more concerned with the sun in his eyes then laying there knocked out on the ground.

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    Default Re: Has there ever been?

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
    hmm Bilbo, interesting topic.. I guess it depends on how long of a time frame you are talking, I mean how long did they have to reign for.. IMO, Mike Tyson is a good one, he was never anywhere close to being in the slightest trouble in a proffessional fight until he lost, really. Also Ricardo Lopez is a good one. Pernell Whittaker would take it though, maybe? He really never lost a fight until Trinidad, and was untouched in his prime. At lighweight, he was practically robbed many times in that any rounds went to the opponenet, he was completely untouched forever and the fighters people picked to finally beat himn didn't(Chavez, DLH)
    Tyson was staggered by Bruno, Smith and Tucker and Whitaker was decked by Mayweather, so on Bilbo's criteria, neither can count.

    hmm....Staggered is an overstatement, imo. Tyson beat them all quite easily, Bruno gave him the msot trouble imo, to the body. But indeed Pernell did get floored, still you could start counting after that and he still reigned for many years without truly being it trouble. Also I suspect Mayweather got somewhat lucky in florring Pernell, or maybe he was clowning? I can't really remember.

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