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    Default Wlad to fight Toney in September?

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    17.05.06 - Matt Stein: According to the latest boxing gossip, Wladimir Klitschko's trainer, Emanuel Steward, has mentioned James Toney, including Calvin Brock, Sergie Liakhovich, as a possible next opponent for Wladimir's first title defense in September, with Toney being the most likely opponent due to contractual problems with the other two. If a bout with Toney can, indeed, come true, it would be a stroke of genius on the part of the Klitschko camp, for Toney (69-3-3, 43 KO's) is the far more marketable fighter of the three, and could give Klitschko (46-3, 41 KO's) a good fight, even if Toney will likely get beaten into the ground in the end.

    Either way, this is a win-win situation for both fighters, since James Toney would get another shot at a heavyweight title, after having fought to a draw against the WBC heavyweight champion, Hasim Rahman, on March 18, 2006, in a fight that Toney came into looking overweight.

    However, even with the extra weight, Toney made it close throught, often taking the fight to the bigger Rahman. While for Wladimir, a fight against a crafty fighter such as Toney, presents the perfect opportunity for the big Ukrainain to showcase more of his boxing skills for the public, since Toney will probably be able to stand in, at least for awhile, under Wladimir's awesome fire storm of punches.

    For Toney, this would be his third attempt at a heavyweight title, after having beating John Ruiz for the WBA title, which was sooner after changed to a "No contest," when Toney tested positive for a banned substance. There was never a rematch, however, so Toney never had a chance to redeem himself against Ruiz. Nevertheless, Toney is a formidible opponent, when in shape, and could present problems for Wladimir, if Toney can get inside to land his punches. However, at 5'9", 230 lbs, getting inside may present a huge obstacle against the giant 6'6" 240 lb, Klitschko, who prefers to fight mostly on the outside, using a powerful left jab, left hook, and straight right, to dominate his foes. The big challenge for Toney, would be trying to get in range of Wladimir, without catching something big on the way in. Chris Byrd, the last fighter who attempted to do this, found out the hard way that it's not too easy, in the process of a six round knockout loss, to Wladimir.

    I see the fight as being completely one-sided, with Wladimir, after a slow first few rounds, soon pinning the 37-year-old Toney against the ropes, and unleashing a flurry of right hand, left hook shots, and dropping Toney for the ten count. Toney, like a true warrior, could probably make it up and try to continue fighting, before being snowed under by a landslide of Wladimir punches, causing the referee to step in and end the brutal one-sided affair.

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    It depends on how much James Toney weighs.

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    It depends on how much James Toney weighs.
    somewhat, but i don't see him winning, or even going the full 12, regardless. if he comes in as fat as he did last time though, he's not lasting more than 4 or 5.

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    in the past ive suggested that toney can beat wlad, these days im not convinced that i wasnt clinically insane.....wlad: byrd, total beat down.....toney: rahman, fat and mediocre....

    toney would actually need to change his approach to training entirely and at this stage i just dont know if he has it in him....he doesnt seem to grasp the significance of coming into a fight in shape any more.....

    i would love to see toney pull something out of the hat, but that could well be just wishful thinking...


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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    James Toney won't get in the ring with Wlad.... just watch

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    If Toney comes in under 220 I'll support him. If he turns up fat again I'll be cheering for Vlad to knock him out. The Rahman performance was a disgrace that proved 2 things: (1)
    Tony is much more skilled than most heavies (2) you cant beat a top ten fighter with a donut diet and no roadwork

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    Quote Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
    James Toney won't get in the ring with Wlad.... just watch
    I would love to see that fat ugly B****** get his smile knocked out the back of his neck. Wlad in four, and Toney laying his ugly a** on the canvas. Just look at this guy, He is one ugly racist pig! The fooker look like Porky pig.

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    James isn't racist he's crazy. Don't be blinding through hate to ignore the skills. he actually has a big chance to upset Wlad depending on his weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    James isn't racist he's crazy. Don't be blinding through hate to ignore the skills. he actually has a big chance to upset Wlad depending on his weight.
    I know he is talented Starr I just don't like the guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    James isn't racist he's crazy. Don't be blinding through hate to ignore the skills. he actually has a big chance to upset Wlad depending on his weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    It depends on how much James Toney weighs.
    Exactly. He comes in weighin bout 220, he'll outbox Wlad's ass for sure. And pound HIM into the ground. This article is a fukin joke. Just a Toney hater talking stupid shat.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    Lighter, fatter, its all the same. His ass is going down. I really don't see Toney winning this or even coming close. In shape or not, he will taste the canvas if this fight happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
    Lighter, fatter, its all the same. His ass is going down. I really don't see Toney winning this or even coming close. In shape or not, he will taste the canvas if this fight happens.
    Toney is a lil better than a hard headed aging Byrd. Wait and see, if this freakin fight even materializes. September is a long ways away anyhow.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    Toney may be difficult for Wlad for a few rds, but once Wlad gets in his comfort zone Toney's in TROUBBBBBLLLLLLEEEEEEEE!!!!!

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    Default Re: Wlad to fight Toney in September?

    if jt use's his head and comes in at 210 he just might make a fight of it, as much as he's a foul mouth yob i'd love to see him become world champ

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