Who is the best modern fighter never to win a world title?

[SimonH]

Back in the days of 8 World Champs, many a fighter was very good and never won a World Title, Charley Burley, All-time is the best IMO, but my question is...

Who is the best fighter(s) who retired between Jan 1 1996 and Dec 31 2005, to not win a WBA, WBC, IBF or WBO title?

[AdamGB]

Micheal Watson.

[ross]

Micheal Watson.

Did you read the first post?

[C.J.Rock]

My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis

[Master]

My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis

You are forgetting the fact he had severe mental health difficulties which would have got in the way of him becoming and certainly staying champion for any long period of time.

[beenKOed]

My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis

You are forgetting the fact he had severe mental health difficulties which would have got in the way of him becoming and certainly staying champion for any long period of time.

Right again!!

[beenKOed]

My old buddy from Texas Ike The President Ibeabuchi.
If Ike hadn't called that lying hooker in Vegas You'd have long forgotten the Klitschkos
He was the natural successor to Lennox Lewis

Lying hooker. Apposed to what? Honorable hooker?
Ikes' motto, "She lies! She dies!"

[denilson200]

Micheal Watson.

I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

But for me - Watson is the clear winner.

[Master]

Micheal Watson.

I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

But for me - Watson is the clear winner.

You are so wrong that I feel embarrassed for you.

The best fighter Graham fought was Mike McCallum who he lost a tight split decision when he was unfairly deducted a point by the referee.

This is the same Mike McCallum who later when on to stop Michael Watson in 11 rounds.

None of the 3 English fighters Eubank, Benn and Watson wanted anything to do with Bomber. This is why he fought the top fighters around the world for his title shots.

[denilson200]

Micheal Watson.

I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

But for me - Watson is the clear winner.

You are so wrong that I feel embarrassed for you.

The best fighter Graham fought was Mike McCallum who he lost a tight split decision when he was unfairly deducted a point by the referee.

This is the same Mike McCallum who later when on to stop Michael Watson in 11 rounds.

None of the 3 English fighters Eubank, Benn and Watson wanted anything to do with Bomber. This is why he fought the top fighters around the world for his title shots.

You need to improve your reading skills

I said "Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?"

Not fought....beat

[Master]

Micheal Watson.

I have to agree with this - Micheal Watson - People who say Bomber Graham should ask themselves this question :

Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?

Herol Graham ? Vinny Pazienza...probably
Micheal Watson ? Nigel Benn........nuff said really

Not to mention Watson won the first fight against Eubank (Yes I know the records books show Eubank got the UD but Eubank got a few dodgy decisons back then) and, watson, well, beat the crap out of Eubank for 11 rounds in the second fight but of course what happened, sadly happened.

Everytime Herol Graham stepped to the highest level, his style was exposed. Prince Naz had a similar style but his power covered up a lot of cracks and even when he stepped up to the very highest level, he too was exposed. Unlike Naz, Graham did not a KO power, to get him out of trouble, nor did he have a style that would go down well with judges and fans, which is maybe why he never got into the Eubank, Benn, Watson and later Collins mix.

But for me - Watson is the clear winner.

You are so wrong that I feel embarrassed for you.

The best fighter Graham fought was Mike McCallum who he lost a tight split decision when he was unfairly deducted a point by the referee.

This is the same Mike McCallum who later when on to stop Michael Watson in 11 rounds.

None of the 3 English fighters Eubank, Benn and Watson wanted anything to do with Bomber. This is why he fought the top fighters around the world for his title shots.

You need to improve your reading skills

I said "Who was the best fighter that both fighters beat ?"

Not fought....beat

Bigger difference and more meaningful is the fighters they fought.

[BIG H]

I'd have to go with Bomber Graham

[SimonH]

Micheal Watson.

Retired in 91.... sadly

[amat]

Darryl Tyson. Don't think he ever captured a major belt.

[SimonH]

I'd have to go with Bomber Graham

Good call, he qualifies on his mid 90s comeback. This is a very hard question to answer... just waiting for the 43 Mr Presidents to kick in