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    Default Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    And then stay there?!

    Even after his 1st retirement... Why did Tito come back to 160lbs?

    Was it weight issues? Money? High Profile fights?

    I dont really understand why Tito moved from 154 so soon? As Chino said in a previous thread, Look at the division now. Tito surely still has some fire left... There's still a job to be done.
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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by JimBoogie
    And then stay there?!

    Even after his 1st retirement... Why did Tito come back to 160lbs?

    Was it weight issues? Money? High Profile fights?

    I dont really understand why Tito moved from 154 so soon? As Chino said in a previous thread, Look at the division now. Tito surely still has some fire left... There's still a job to be done.
    i was thinking that myself, because tito retired twice and was still young both times, and he could clear up if he were in top shape, but its best he stay retired and enjoys his money because he never intended to be defeated by hopkins in the first place and wasnt the same after then when he fought winky and lost again he was right to call it a day,
    i dont believe he needs to add anything to his legacy so best off keeping it safe!
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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Tito could well have stayed at 154 for the rest of his career....and he would have been near unbeatable....

    There were big fights to be made at 160 though, and you cant blame a man for wanting to challenge himself...

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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Tito could well have stayed at 154 for the rest of his career....and he would have been near unbeatable....

    There were big fights to be made at 160 though, and you cant blame a man for wanting to challenge himself...
    too true,
    and plus he was undefeated up to the point when he destroyed joppy which gave him a false sense of security about his power at middleweight, i feel like he was a natural middleweight, but was tearing up the welter and light middle divisions, before he became a so so middle wieght,
    i think to myself i wouldnt have wanted him back at any other division because i LOVED the mayorga fight, but come to think of it, he could have fought at welter where mayorga was before, and stil could have won and not have taken the fight with winky and carried on a fair while longer.
    but to cockey cockney!! i think he made 8 mil to fight with mayorga on his comeback!! and probably more for winky! those fights were true crowd pleasers because tito was SOOO popular he puts butts in seats man :P
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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by body head banger
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Tito could well have stayed at 154 for the rest of his career....and he would have been near unbeatable....

    There were big fights to be made at 160 though, and you cant blame a man for wanting to challenge himself...
    too true,
    and plus he was undefeated up to the point when he destroyed joppy which gave him a false sense of security about his power at middleweight, i feel like he was a natural middleweight, but was tearing up the welter and light middle divisions, before he became a so so middle wieght,
    i think to myself i wouldnt have wanted him back at any other division because i LOVED the mayorga fight, but come to think of it, he could have fought at welter where mayorga was before, and stil could have won and not have taken the fight with winky and carried on a fair while longer.
    but to cockey cockney!! i think he made 8 mil to fight with mayorga on his comeback!! and probably more for winky! those fights were true crowd pleasers because tito was SOOO popular he puts butts in seats man :P
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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    I would have preferred to stay at 154 and cleaned up,kicked ass. Even now,I know he won't come back but if he was to,I think the would KTFO everyone there!!

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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by body head banger
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Tito could well have stayed at 154 for the rest of his career....and he would have been near unbeatable....

    There were big fights to be made at 160 though, and you cant blame a man for wanting to challenge himself...
    too true,
    and plus he was undefeated up to the point when he destroyed joppy which gave him a false sense of security about his power at middleweight, i feel like he was a natural middleweight, but was tearing up the welter and light middle divisions, before he became a so so middle wieght,
    i think to myself i wouldnt have wanted him back at any other division because i LOVED the mayorga fight, but come to think of it, he could have fought at welter where mayorga was before, and stil could have won and not have taken the fight with winky and carried on a fair while longer.
    but to cockey cockney!! i think he made 8 mil to fight with mayorga on his comeback!! and probably more for winky! those fights were true crowd pleasers because tito was SOOO popular he puts butts in seats man :P
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    Banger, you make a very good point about Tito's false sense of security at 160 after destroying Joppy. It was his first fight at that weight and he was riding a wave of support and popularity. Don King had put together this middleweight "tournament" and I guess Tito thought he'd walk through all comers and move up to light heavy. He found out the hard way that 160 wasn't his best or ideal weight.

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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    I would have preferred to stay at 154 and cleaned up,kicked a**. Even now,I know he won't come back but if he was to,I think the would KTFO everyone there!!

    if tito came back, oscar and mosely would have a field day on him at 154
    im not saying they would have many years ago (even though i thought oscar won the first) but hes been inactive too long, and the way he went out against winky wright is very hard to recover from, imo (pretty humiliating loss)

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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    I think he had Roy Jones in the back of his mind for a while(possibly back when he was only a welterweight) and realized in order to get that fight he'd have to work his way up towards at least 168.

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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    there weren't any fights to be had at 154 except the rematch with De La Hoya, everything else was just pointless, he could build on his legacy by adding yet another world title and then try to become undisputed

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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    I would have preferred to stay at 154 and cleaned up,kicked a**. Even now,I know he won't come back but if he was to,I think the would KTFO everyone there!!

    if tito came back, oscar and mosely would have a field day on him at 154
    im not saying they would have many years ago (even though i thought oscar won the first) but hes been inactive too long, and the way he went out against winky wright is very hard to recover from, imo (pretty humiliating loss)
    Mosely, yeah maybe. Oscar.... definitely NOT. You forget... Oscar's gotten fat and happy too. He's also got an ego bigger than his wallet. In a rematch with Tito he'd try to make up for his shameful running in the first fight. Big mistake.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    I would have preferred to stay at 154 and cleaned up,kicked ass. Even now,I know he won't come back but if he was to,I think the would KTFO everyone there!!

    Not Oscar, not Ouma, not Quartey, not Mosley

    What happened to all the "Trinidad will beat Roy Jones Jr one day" talk that was floating around aftert he Joppy fight I guess everyone expected Hopkins to fight Trinidad as if Trinidad was 154 pounds. Hindsight is fun..but when just about everyone was saying that Trinidad would knock out Hopkins and be the rightful owner of the Sugar Ray Robinson trophy.. they were practically preparing the parade for him!! Then Hopkins beats him and its "Why did Trinidad go to 160" May as well say "Why did Roy go back down to LightHeavyweight, everyone knows he wasn't the same when he did.." But instead its "Roy is an overrated who got knocked out by Tarver and Johnson" meanwhile Trinidad gets the "too brave for his own good" speech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    I would have preferred to stay at 154 and cleaned up,kicked a**. Even now,I know he won't come back but if he was to,I think the would KTFO everyone there!!

    Not Definitely Oscar, not ditto Ouma, not ditto Quartey, not maybe not Mosley
    Just thought I'd correct it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr


    What happened to all the "Trinidad will beat Roy Jones Jr one day" talk that was floating around aftert he Joppy fight I guess everyone expected Hopkins to fight Trinidad as if Trinidad was 154 pounds. Hindsight is fun..but when just about everyone was saying that Trinidad would knock out Hopkins and be the rightful owner of the Sugar Ray Robinson trophy.. they were practically preparing the parade for him!! Then Hopkins beats him and its "Why did Trinidad go to 160" May as well say "Why did Roy go back down to LightHeavyweight, everyone knows he wasn't the same when he did.." But instead its "Roy is an overrated who got knocked out by Tarver and Johnson" meanwhile Trinidad gets the "too brave for his own good" speech?
    Honestly, for someone who professes to be unbiased and supposedly doesn't dislike Tito, you sure spend a lot of time hating on him.

    The surefire sign of a hater is someone who always spouts the same sh*t over and over and over and over again (ad nauseum). It's like you have nothing else to dump on the guy. Ten years from now, you'll be talking the same sh*t about Tito being one-dimensional, Tito being undeserving, blah, blah, blah, blah.

    Don't worry, tho. I'm always more than happy to set you straight.




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    Default Re: Why Exactly Did Tito move up to 160lbs?

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Quote Originally Posted by El Phenomena
    I would have preferred to stay at 154 and cleaned up,kicked a**. Even now,I know he won't come back but if he was to,I think the would KTFO everyone there!!

    Not Definitely Oscar, not ditto Ouma, not ditto Quartey, not maybe not Mosley
    Just thought I'd correct it for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr


    What happened to all the "Trinidad will beat Roy Jones Jr one day" talk that was floating around aftert he Joppy fight I guess everyone expected Hopkins to fight Trinidad as if Trinidad was 154 pounds. Hindsight is fun..but when just about everyone was saying that Trinidad would knock out Hopkins and be the rightful owner of the Sugar Ray Robinson trophy.. they were practically preparing the parade for him!! Then Hopkins beats him and its "Why did Trinidad go to 160" May as well say "Why did Roy go back down to LightHeavyweight, everyone knows he wasn't the same when he did.." But instead its "Roy is an overrated who got knocked out by Tarver and Johnson" meanwhile Trinidad gets the "too brave for his own good" speech?
    Honestly, for someone who professes to be unbiased and supposedly doesn't dislike Tito, you sure spend a lot of time hating on him.

    The surefire sign of a hater is someone who always spouts the same sh*t over and over and over and over again (ad nauseum). It's like you have nothing else to dump on the guy. Ten years from now, you'll be talking the same sh*t about Tito being one-dimensional, Tito being undeserving, blah, blah, blah, blah.

    Don't worry, tho. I'm always more than happy to set you straight.



    Seems very similar to a nuthugger who sprouts the same stuff about a fighter and ridicules anyone who doesn't agree.

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