How good was Montell "Ice" Griffin

[Hulk]

With less than 20 fights Griffin exploded onto the boxing scene defeating James Toney, fresh off his loss to Roy Jones, giving him only the second loss of his career. Then he went toe to toe with Roy, frustrating him and stealing rounds before bein KO'd then hit while he was down. He definately shoulda won an Oscar that night for his performance. In the rematch "Ice" got iced in one round by Jones. Despite winning another close fight against Toney, Montell really never beat any other great fighters and in recent years has been a gatekeeper at LH more than anything. He peaked early and burned out fast, but for his brief prime I think Griffin really was a great fighter. He'd give Jermaine Taylor and Joe Calzaghe, even Bernard fits IMO.

[Purist]

He was and still is a great fighter he just had a vintage performance against Rico Hoye but didn't get the decision sadly.

[Hulk]

He was and still is a great fighter he just had a vintage performance against Rico Hoye but didn't get the decision sadly.

I know. He got screwed in that fight, but that was a couple years ago I think. If memory serves me right Badi Ajamu also got jobbed against Rico Hoye so that puts things into perspective. Griffin would have defeated Jermaine Taylor and Calzaghe in his prime IMO. The man was a short frustrating little southpaw.

[Purist]

He was and still is a great fighter he just had a vintage performance against Rico Hoye but didn't get the decision sadly.

I know. He got screwed in that fight, but that was a couple years ago I think. If memory serves me right Badi Ajamu also got jobbed against Rico Hoye so that puts things into perspective. Griffin would have defeated Jermaine Taylor and Calzaghe in his prime IMO. The man was a short frustrating little southpaw.

Yeah, if it wasn't for Roy Jones and anger he may have been undefeated

[Scrap]

Heard years ago that before the Benn McClellann fight, Griffins had sparked McClellann big time in a Miami gym he was out for some time. Makes you think.

[Taeth]

I think he was an amazing tactical fighter, but he lacked elite athletic ability especially in the chin department.

[Violent Demise]

He was an above average fighter. Both his wins over Toney were gifts. I do agree that he beats Calzaghe.

[p4pking]

He was an above average fighter. Both his wins over Toney were gifts. I do agree that he beats Calzaghe.

I thought Toney won the 2nd for sure but the first was no gift.

[DaxxKahn]

I think he was an amazing tactical fighter, but he lacked elite athletic ability especially in the chin department.

I agree....He wasn't a P4P fighter but...Good defensively

[Hulk]

He was an above average fighter. Both his wins over Toney were gifts. I do agree that he beats Calzaghe.

You must have a very high opinion of Calzaghe then. I haven't seen the second fight, but the first was very close and could have gone to either man. Also let me correct myself so as not to lose any more respect amongst my fellow boxing nerds, 1. Griffin had 14 fights at the time of the first Toney fight, not 18. 2. He wasn't a southpaw, he'd switch to southpaw, but mostly fought orthodox.

[Violent Demise]

He was an above average fighter. Both his wins over Toney were gifts. I do agree that he beats Calzaghe.

You must have a very high opinion of Calzaghe then. I haven't seen the second fight, but the first was very close and could have gone to either man. Also let me correct myself so as not to lose any more respect amongst my fellow boxing nerds, 1. Griffin had 14 fights at the time of the first Toney fight, not 18. 2. He wasn't a southpaw, he'd switch to southpaw, but mostly fought orthodox.

The second one should of gone to Toney without a doubt. And I don't think to highly of Calzaghe.

[Scrap]

I know at one time Eddie Futch was very excited by Him, but He seemed to loose his way a great technician who could punch

[Mathias]

Too bad I only saw the RJJ fight,but he got sparked big time in that fight

[Hulk]

Too bad I only saw the RJJ fight,but he got sparked big time in that fight

That's cus Roy was THE MAN and he dominated Toney, and KO'd Griffin Twice. In the first fight Griffin did do pretty well for himself, till he got caught, then he took a nice little dive once Roy hit him while he was down to get the DQ win.

[OumaFan]

Very skilled, no punch, but very tricky defensively. Definitely screwed in the Hoye fight but judges these days favor agression over effectiveness. Second Toney fight was definitely a gift but I had the first for Montell, and he was very good in the first RJ fight.