This is one of the reasons that we do NOT trust the US....

[4YOU]

A lot of boxing "experts" from the US are ranking Toney and RJJ on their all time greatest list of SMW - for Christ sakes! RJJ had about 5 or 6 fights at SMW and Toney 3 or 4 fights!

Do I need to say more....

[AdamGB]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



Fuck records... fuck how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

[4YOU]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

[Tito BHB]

well they are some of the greatest super middles, its not how many they fought at smw but the fact that they made just about the only relevent fight at super middle in years when they fought, both undefeated and big stars and there hadnt been anything else going on for a while at super mid.
i mean really how many great fighters have theyr been at smw? this is what i can think of
rjj, toney, benn, eubank, collins, leonard, hearns, duran, iran barkley, michael nunn...
there might be a fair more but those are the obvious ones!
so imo i think roy and toney deserve a spot up there
peace

[_the_answer_]

WE - theyre the self proclaimed knowledgeable boxing fans.
i hate to hear anyone says about someone
that hes a good poster cuz he gives facts
cmon its the fwockin web...
whos not knowledgeable when theyre surfin the internet

[Tito BHB]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

and two things about this thread.../
one- its starts with dont trust america..
thats bullshit and if thats your honest opinion keep it to yourself.. boxing would be nothing without america u must be blind if you dont see this.
two-you say calzaghe , been eubank collins would play with rjj and toney.. but you dont explain nothing you just state it like we are to accept it.. thats crap..
benn was to fight roy if he had of got past malinga but he got taken by suprise and plus he never took the fight with roy and would have been ko'd if he fought roy after that because he was never the same after fighting gerald.
so how u figure the other would beat either fighter?

[4YOU]

The only single good win Toney has at SMW is Iran Barkley - the only second time he met another live SMW (RJJ) he lost big time, so how the F*** can Toney be considered an all time great SMW? I guess that US lags of SMW champs so they find Toney a great SMW champ....

[Tito BHB]

The only single good win Toney has at SMW is Iran Barkley - the only second time he met another live SMW (RJJ) he lost big time, so how the F*** can Toney be considered an all time great SMW? I guess that US lags of SMW champs so they find Toney a great SMW champ....

like mr gb said.. its not all about how many fights etc its theyr skill and such....
so what made eubank collins or benn any better then jones or toney..
jones had 7 fights at super middle and 6 of them were successful defences of his title. thats not exactly 2 or 3 like you said is it? and plus he fought fair competition like vini paz and toney, just like toney fought jones and barkley. its all about who they fought and if you look at them after that they moved to bigger and better things in theyr careers and been very successful. collins benn and eubanks careers cant compare to the careers of jones and toney. and have been going much longer then theyrs
so who did these three fight apart from eahcother? g man and thats about it.

[bigragu]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

ahhhh...new guy comes on...full of piss and vinegar...trying to be controversial....we have this here already...and if "The Violent One" hasn't let you know he probably will shortly......step back...take a deep breath...and realize you are talking out of your a**!! Royal is gone...and we want to keep it that way!!1 Have a great day and a SC for your troubles....

[Tito BHB]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

ahhhh...new guy comes on...full of piss and vinegar...trying to be controversial....we have this here already...and if "The Violent One" hasn't let you know he probably will shortly......step back...take a deep breath...and realize you are talking out of your a**!! Royal is gone...and we want to keep it that way!!1 Have a great day and a SC for your troubles....

hah have a cool for yours bro

[4YOU]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

ahhhh...new guy comes on...full of piss and vinegar...trying to be controversial....we have this here already...and if "The Violent One" hasn't let you know he probably will shortly......step back...take a deep breath...and realize you are talking out of your a**!! Royal is gone...and we want to keep it that way!!1 Have a great day and a SC for your troubles....

Your opinion is yours but calling me a new guy.... - I guess that I had me first 20 fights before you could even say the word SADDO!....

[Tito BHB]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

ahhhh...new guy comes on...full of piss and vinegar...trying to be controversial....we have this here already...and if "The Violent One" hasn't let you know he probably will shortly......step back...take a deep breath...and realize you are talking out of your a**!! Royal is gone...and we want to keep it that way!!1 Have a great day and a SC for your troubles....

Your opinion is yours but calling me a new guy.... - I guess that I had me first 20 fights before you could even say the word SADDO!....

youre an idiot... at no point did he say anything about you boxing, he said that youre a new guy on this site you div! hmmm which has more relevence your life which is not anything to do with the arguement or the fact that your a newb on this site? duh?

[4YOU]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

ahhhh...new guy comes on...full of piss and vinegar...trying to be controversial....we have this here already...and if "The Violent One" hasn't let you know he probably will shortly......step back...take a deep breath...and realize you are talking out of your a**!! Royal is gone...and we want to keep it that way!!1 Have a great day and a SC for your troubles....

Your opinion is yours but calling me a new guy.... - I guess that I had me first 20 fights before you could even say the word SADDO!....

youre an idiot... at no point did he say anything about you boxing, he said that youre a new guy on this site you div! hmmm which has more relevence your life which is not anything to do with the arguement or the fact that your a newb on this site? duh?

Whatever friend, I guess that Royal posted more significants posts than those of yours

[DaxxKahn]

yes.

What Super Middle weights now and then could of beaten them at the weight?



F*** records... F*** how many fights they had... it's their skills people are talking about.

And who is 'we'?...

Calzaghe would play with them so would Kessler - Eubank, Benn and especially Collins would batter them easily.

EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....You have been watching boxing what a week now?..........Calzaghe,,,Kessler,,,Benn,,,Eubank would play with them?...
Have you seen James Toney at Super middleweight?........Have you seen Roy Jones at Super Middle?..........If you did and you don't think they are two of the greatest then you are either Joe Calzaghe or no nothing about the sport.........

AND BY THE WAY THE CONCENCIOUS ON JONES AND TONEY BEING TWO OF THE BEST EVER ARE WORLD WIDE!!!!!!!!!!!

EUBANK,KESSLER,CALZAGHE AND BENN BEATING THEM AT SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT....THATS A JOKE....

[TyBuff]

A lot of boxing "experts" from the US are ranking Toney and RJJ on their all time greatest list of SMW - for Christ sakes! RJJ had about 5 or 6 fights at SMW and Toney 3 or 4 fights!

Do I need to say more....

Kind of pathetic that you feel the need to point out what some US boxing "experts" feel are the A.T.G. at SMW as a reason to not trust the US. I live here and can find better reasons than that. So yes you need to say more. If you have to search this hard to find a reason not to trust us, then either your an idiot or stupid. I say both but have a sc for being pathetic.