best non-champion ever

[Big_mo_fo]

here is a question (sorry if its been done already but havent found it myself);


who was the best fighter to never become a champion?

opinions and reasons please!

[BIG H]

here is a question (sorry if its been done already but havent found it myself);


who was the best fighter to never become a champion?

opinions and reasons please!

Herol Graham imo - was unlucky to come up against a prime McCallum and lost a razor thin decision, ditto for Kalambay - was way ahead against Jackson (Jackson was gonna be pulled out at the end of the 5th) before being Koed, was way ahead against Brewer before being Koed

A good chin short of being one of the greatest British fighters of all time and a fantastic long reigning world champion

[ICB]

earnie shavers= beat ken norton took ali 15 rounds was unlucky not to stop holmes in 2nd fight

jimmy young= beat george foreman had draw with earnie shavers and alot of people think he should of won against ali also had very close decision loss to ken norton

michael watson= beat nigel benn imo should of won first eubank fight and was on his way to winning 2nd fight until he was caught with that punch

herol graham= lost 12 round sd to one of the best mike mccallum and was giving julian jackson boxing lesson until he was caught

charles burley= had great record beat archie moore was ducked by all of the champs

heres some others

jerry quarry

david tua

ike ibeabuchi

razor ruddock

armando muniz

gerry cooney

ron lyle

[BIG H]

earnie shavers= beat ken norton took ali 15 rounds was unlucky not to stop holmes in 2nd fight

jimmy young= beat george foreman had draw with earnie shavers and alot of people think he should of won against ali also had very close decision loss to ken norton

michael watson= beat nigel benn imo should of won first eubank fight and was on his way to winning 2nd fight until he was caught with that punch

herol graham= lost 12 round sd to one of the best mike mccallum and was giving julian jackson boxing lesson until he was caught

charles burley= had great record beat archie moore was ducked by all of the champs

heres some others

jerry quarry

david tua

ike ibeabuchi

razor ruddock

armando muniz

gerry cooney

ron lyle

CC mate - excellent post - and you've made me change my vote - Charley Burley must be the greatest

[ICB]

earnie shavers= beat ken norton took ali 15 rounds was unlucky not to stop holmes in 2nd fight

jimmy young= beat george foreman had draw with earnie shavers and alot of people think he should of won against ali also had very close decision loss to ken norton

michael watson= beat nigel benn imo should of won first eubank fight and was on his way to winning 2nd fight until he was caught with that punch

herol graham= lost 12 round sd to one of the best mike mccallum and was giving julian jackson boxing lesson until he was caught

charles burley= had great record beat archie moore was ducked by all of the champs

heres some others

jerry quarry

david tua

ike ibeabuchi

razor ruddock

armando muniz

gerry cooney

ron lyle

CC mate - excellent post - and you've made me change my vote - Charley Burley must be the greatest

cc back mate yea he was sound boxer just a shame he was ducked by everyone and you know rumor he supposedly beat robinson twice when he was gym sweeper

[Scrap]

To never win a Title and be a ATG. Well he won the black version of it, Hed beaten the World Champs at welter and Middle in non title fights . You look at his Resume and think Fuck, he was to good for his own good. The only guy to beat him 2 and 0 was Ezzard Charles HOF but a weight highter in weight. Charley Burley its the people who he didnt fight that makes it more intreresting. Billy Conn Ray Robinson Henry Armstong didnt want to know Heres Some that He did beat Fritzie Zivic Coaco Kidd Billy Soose Holman Williams Jack Chase Archie Moore. His real weight was usually 150 lbs when he boxed Lt heavys He was never stopped in his career. A great Fighter.

[Scrap]

Interesting tit bit, SRR when he was getting $10,000 for defences, wanted $50,000 to fight Burley that tells me something. When he beat Zivic he became the challenger for the welter title but it was Zivic who got the shot.

[DaxxKahn]

earnie shavers= beat ken norton took ali 15 rounds was unlucky not to stop holmes in 2nd fight

jimmy young= beat george foreman had draw with earnie shavers and alot of people think he should of won against ali also had very close decision loss to ken norton

michael watson= beat nigel benn imo should of won first eubank fight and was on his way to winning 2nd fight until he was caught with that punch

herol graham= lost 12 round sd to one of the best mike mccallum and was giving julian jackson boxing lesson until he was caught

charles burley= had great record beat archie moore was ducked by all of the champs

heres some others

jerry quarry

david tua

ike ibeabuchi

razor ruddock

armando muniz

gerry cooney

ron lyle

Good list. I would also add i Sam McVey and Sam Langford

[Lance Uppercut]

Ken Norton- if we are not counting alphabet titles

[El Kabong]

Sammy Langford

[Big_mo_fo]

Ken Norton- if we are not counting alphabet titles

jerry quarry

david tua

jerry quarry tends to be my choice. unfortunate era for him, great era for boxing fans

[althetruthhindley]

Herol Graham no doubt he only went for real championships
not pretty to watch but in his prime so hard to hit

[Rotten Apple]

Oba Carr. Very good fighter. But Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey and Oscar De La Hoya were just better.

[Majesty]

Sam Langford

[undefeated]

jimmy young---he was damn good