Oscar Delahoya has never beaten a great boxer at their peak

[SEANIE]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

[donnydarkoIRL]

You seem like a Hatton Fan too so gonna give ya cool click,
Be interesting to see this mayweather De la Hoya fight...would love to see Mayweather beaten because he would then b forced to take on fights such as Hatton Cotto etc. to try secure his legacy...

[SEANIE]

You seem like a Hatton Fan too so gonna give ya cool click,
Be interesting to see this mayweather De la Hoya fight...would love to see Mayweather beaten because he would then b forced to take on fights such as Hatton Cotto etc. to try secure his legacy...

mayweather wins hands down. deloya is too slow. i think hattons last four fights have been impressive no matter what anyone else says. he's stood up to be counted and won. yearts ago i thought hatton would crumble once he met a world class fighter.

[Kev]

I think it's going to be a close fight.

If you look at Floyd's record, can you name a single fighter on their who De La Hoya wouldn't have beaten just as easily? I can't see any....

[SweetPea]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

DLH is not an all-time great and yes, he is overrated. I don't think he's "vastly" overrated, but slightly overrated. You could make an argument that DLH went 0-3-1 in the Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley I one fights. DLH's legacy will be that he was a very very good fighter who was willing to fight the best of the best year after year, and that's very impressive in its own right.
You're right, Floyd Mayweather has not beaten an all-time great.
If your last sentence is meant to imply that Ricky Hatton is somehow better than DLH and Mayweather, then you're out of your mind.

[The Boxer]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

you do realize that PBF beat Hattons next opponent twice already.

[Bookkeeper]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

DLH is not an all-time great and yes, he is overrated. I don't think he's "vastly" overrated, but slightly overrated. You could make an argument that DLH went 0-3-1 in the Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley I one fights. DLH's legacy is that he was a very very good fighter who was willing to fight the best of the best year after year, and that's very impressive in its own right.
You're right, Floyd Mayweather has not beaten an all-time great.
If your last sentence is meant to imply that Ricky Hatton is somehow better than DLH and Mayweather, then you're out of your mind.

Great post, yes I agree with everything you said. You have found a home here. Was your forum name Realitycheck prior to sweetpea.

[donnydarkoIRL]

It is unfortunate that we have to use our opinions to judge which of these fighters is truely the best....Only when the bell rings we will no, and it becomes less and less likely every day that the bell will ring for hatton/mayweather

[ICB]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

DLH is not an all-time great and yes, he is overrated. I don't think he's "vastly" overrated, but slightly overrated. You could make an argument that DLH went 0-3-1 in the Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley I one fights. DLH's legacy will be that he was a very very good fighter who was willing to fight the best of the best year after year, and that's very impressive in its own right.
You're right, Floyd Mayweather has not beaten an all-time great.
If your last sentence is meant to imply that Ricky Hatton is somehow better than DLH and Mayweather, then you're out of your mind.

dela hoya also got robbed in 2nd mosley fight and should of won and i think he edged tito fight and i had whitaker fight even i think quartey won vs dela hoya though by a round

[ono]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

you do realize that PBF beat Hattons next opponent twice already.

Well once

The judges won the first fight for Mayweather.

[SweetPea]

dela hoya also got robbed in 2nd mosley fight and should of won and i think he edged tito fight and i had whitaker fight even i think quartey won vs dela hoya though by a round

I feel DLH won the second Mosley fight and that's why I did not include that fight as a loss. Although you could make an argument that the undeserved loss in Mosley II was balanced out by the controversial victory over Felix Sturm. I've never seen the Sturm fight in its entirety so I can't make a specific comment on who won.
In the end, many people would say (including myself) that DLH has been on the winning end of more controversial decisions than the losing end.

[p4pking]

It is unfortunate that we have to use our opinions to judge which of these fighters is truely the best....Only when the bell rings we will no, and it becomes less and less likely every day that the bell will ring for hatton/mayweather

There's actually a new method. Some boxing fans have tried actually using their eyes. THe concensus is, Mayweather is way better.

[Bx730NY]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

DLH is not an all-time great and yes, he is overrated. I don't think he's "vastly" overrated, but slightly overrated. You could make an argument that DLH went 0-3-1 in the Whitaker, Quartey, Trinidad and Mosley I one fights. DLH's legacy will be that he was a very very good fighter who was willing to fight the best of the best year after year, and that's very impressive in its own right.
You're right, Floyd Mayweather has not beaten an all-time great.
If your last sentence is meant to imply that Ricky Hatton is somehow better than DLH and Mayweather, then you're out of your mind.

CC.....I agree. It's no secret that I'm not a fan of either Floyd or Oscar but to say Hatton is better is insane. I don't recall the last time Either of the two got chased back down in weight after just one fight.

[CutMeMick]

Title of thread: ODLH has never beaten a great boxer at their peak.

Well it all depends on what 'YOU' consider great......

Heres how I see it.....

Barry McGuigan is a Hall of Famer. (which I don't agree with)
Heres how he stands as a fighter.
Record: (32-3)
He beat Pedroza for his WBA title defended it twice then lost it, and that's it.

So if what Barry did landed in the Hall of Fame which equals greatness the heres how I see it for ODLH.

John John Molina
Record: (52-7)
He beat LaPorte for the vcant WBO belt. Then beat Lopez for his IBF belt, he defended that belt once then lost the re-match to Lopez. He won the vacant IBF belt and defended that belt 7 times. He then moved up in weight fought ODLH and lost. (And it's not like Molina grew old in 3 months) Molina then WAAYYY past his best days beat Tackie.

Genaro Hernandez
(38-2-1)
He was undefeated (32-0) when they met and Genaro was still in his best days.
He beat Landonas for the vacant WBA belt and defended it 8 times. He moved up in weight and lost to ODLH. (Again it's not Hrndz. grew old in 6 months) Hrndz. then wen't on to Azumah for his WBC belt and won he defended that belt 3 times before loosing.

'Santa Tokyo' Miguel Angel Gonzalez
(51-5-1)
He was undefeated (41-0) when they met and Miguel was still in his best days.
He beat Rocha for the vacant WBC belt and defended it 10 times. He then moved up in weight and lost to ODLH.

Pernell Whitaker
(40-4-1)
Crap! Do I really have to list all of his accomplishment?
Inducted to the IBHofF this year.....

Ike Quartey
(37-4-1)
He was undefeated (34-0) when they met and Ike was still in his best days.
He beat Espana for his WBA belt he then defended that belt 7 times. He then fought ODLH and lost.

So you see measuring ODLH opponents by the IBHofF (which equal grateness) standards and the 'in their peak' standard that you've set here ODLH has fought and beaten those kind of fighters...... You just gotta look closely.... And the same way hes beaten them they have beaten him; (In paper) Tito, SSM, B-Hop.

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated.

See above and this isn't even mentioning his stats (titles, defenses etc. etc.)

In his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

Fwock! I should have read your post completely. Instead of typing all that up to realise this is coming from a Hatton fan. Now I'm confused.

The title on your thread talks about ODLH not beting fighters in their peak as you say.
You then go on to say "In his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending"
Curious to know which 'GREAT' fighter has Hatton beat in their peak?


Kostya Tszyu
(31-2)
P4P Light Welter King. Defende his titles 7 times.






and....... ummmmm!!! and ummmmmm ..... thats it.

I'm one of the few who thinks that Tszyu was NOT past his best days. Hatton was the better fighter that night. But to mouth of ODLH and then praise Hatton ius absurd and don't make no sense....

Anything else you'd like to discuss?

[Gandalf]

he is not an all time great and is vastly overated. Floyd Mayweather has also beat no all time greats. in his last four bouts ricky hatton has won world titles of defending champions.

you do realize that PBF beat Hattons next opponent twice already.

So, bloody what?!

I dont know what you are arguing here...