MODIFIED!!! MUST READ!!! Time is running out for Sam Peter's Jackpot offer!!!

[Wacko3205]

Alright...so I am sure that this has probably been done to death...but let's take a poll on the matter of Samuel Peter vs Maskaev vs Vitali.

The WBC #1 ranked heavyweight contender Samuel Peter has been offered $2.5 million by Maskaev's & returning champion Vitali Klitschko's camp in the form of "step-aside" money with a contracted deal to fight the winner soon afterwards. On top of this, Peter has been guranteed a purse split of 50-50 to fight the winner of the May 15th bout.

If he doesn't take this offer it goes to the hands of lawyers & judges & get's stuck in court.

As previuosly discussed...right is right & wrong is wrong & many of us feel that it's wrong for Vitali to just hope right back in the saddle again...but some of you see no issue with it.

Now that this offer is on the table for Peter...what do you think? Vote it out & then explain it.

Just curious where everyone stands on this one.

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***NEW NEWS ON SAM PETER'S SITUATION***

As widely reported over the past few weeks, Vitali Klitschko and his advisors are engaged in an effort to push Samuel Peter aside and delay the Nigerian’s exercise of his right to fight Oleg Maskaev for the WBC heavyweight title. In support of that maneuvering, the Klitschko and Maskaev camps (in conjunction with the WBC) have publicized a $2,500,000 “step-aside” offer that was supposedly made to Peter. However, it turns out that the offer has some loopholes that make it considerably less generous than advertised.

For example; when the offer was clarified, the Peter camp was told that, if Maskaev-Klitschko never happens (let’s say that Vitali is injured while training and can’t compete), Samuel would receive only $500,000. Then negotiations were put on hold while the Klitschko camp tried to find an insurer who would back a larger number.

“They’re not even telling half-truths,” grumbles one member of Team Peter. “Twenty-percent truths is more like it.”

“That’s Shelly Finkel math,” says Shannon Briggs, who’s still steamed over failed negotiations for a Madison Square Garden title bout against Wladimir Klitschko last year. “Shelly [Klitschko’s advisor] told me I had the fight,” Briggs continues. “He said, ‘It’s not one hundred percent; it’s one thousand percent.’ I don’t know; I wasn’t that good in school. Maybe one thousand percent is less than one hundred percent.”

Meanwhile, there’s another issue regarding the Klitschko-Maskaev-Peter-WBC mess that might surface shortly.

Samuel Peter is one of the two best heavyweights ever to come out of Africa (Ike Ibeabuchi is the other). Were Peter to defeat Maskaev and become WBC heavyweight champion, it would raise the profile of boxing throughout the continent and Samuel would be recognized as a hero.

How long will it be before Don King (Peter’s co-promoter) seizes on that fact and contrasts Samuel’s African heritage with that of Klitschko, Maskaev, and WBC president Jose Sulaiman?

http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=21508

I'd like to go ahead & say...I don't know WTF to think now.

Maybe Peter should just fight this & see what kind of ACTUAL guarantees he can get legit.

[Wacko3205]

I voted the first option.

Here's the thing...I agree with Peter's team...right is right & wrong is wrong...but this is boxing...& rules are meant to be broken.

Vitali was & still is such a big part of the heavyweight division...even though he's been gone for so long. If I were Peter & I had as much confidence in myself as he does...I'd step aside, take the 2.5 mill, fight some chump, & then take a crack at the winner for a 50-50 split.

Peter will find it hard to make that much cash in a year's time...no matter what other route he travels or any other situation.

$2.5 million is a boatload of cash.

No shame in stepping aside for such...if he does anything less...I'll think that he's foolish...but it's his career, not mine.

Thing is...stop & look at it this way...the 2.5 coupled with the possibility of a future clash against Vitali would be jaw dropping & would/could bank roll him for life.

If Maskaev were to win...& that's a shot in the dark, IWO, then Peter would probably have an easier night with him than the Klit.

[Tito BHB]

This has been a real sore spot for me...

I really feel peter is bieng screwed.. Why can't they just have vitali face the winner of maskaev - peter?

I mean.. Boxing is boxing..Bullshiz comes with boxing sometimes.. But the thing that really pissed me off about this one in particular ..Is that they charged peter twice for the shot that he aint even got..
He's payed the money..Actually beaten My man james this time.. Give him the shot..

I think its fare to say that they are trying to protect maskaev for the obvious fact that both with spark him out..
And the bigger paycheck for maskaev is in the vitali fight..

But if you ask me..What should be done..Honestly...



































Triple threat match

[Wacko3205]

This has been a real sore spot for me...

I really feel peter is bieng screwed.. Why can't they just have vitali face the winner of maskaev - peter?

I mean.. Boxing is boxing..Bullshiz comes with boxing sometimes.. But the thing that really pissed me off about this one in particular ..Is that they charged peter twice for the shot that he aint even got..
He's payed the money..Actually beaten My man james this time.. Give him the shot..

I think its fare to say that they are trying to protect maskaev for the obvious fact that both with spark him out..

Agreed 100%.

Peter is getting the short end of the stick on this one...& the Toney fights...of which I think that he won both. Most disagree there...but that's just boxing.

Good points.

[sunshinetrue]

Taking this situation into court would only benefit the lawyers
(no offence to the legal community out there). It's absolutely
a no brainer for Peter to take the loot and wait a few months
to fight the winner of the Maskaev/Klitschko bout.

Tito_BHB Regarding your comment "I really feel peter is
being screwed.. Why can't they just have vitali face the winner
of maskaev - peter?"...Don King would stand in the way of that
happening if Peter were the victorious one in that fight. King has
been noted to say that he will do everything that he can to prohibit
the Klitschko brothers to wear those Championship belts around
their waists.

Vitali doesn't have a lot of fights left in him....let's be honest here.
I'm a fan of the K-brothers, but I know that age, prior injuries and
politics will ultimately limit the time Vitali has left in the boxing arena.
If he doesn't get a quick shot at Oleg and has to wait for Peter,
King knows that delaying that fight would destroy any possibility
of Vitali being as effective as he can be now....

For any of you out there that would consider signing this petition
in support of the Maskaev / Klitschko fight, it would be very much
appreciated. I don't mean to ruffle any feathers out there so
please don't flame me. It's tough enough being a woman at these
boxing forums that wants to contribute and having to withstand the
rubs...

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/H...hts/index.html

Sincerely,
Sunshinetrue

[Tito BHB]

Cc's back and all around

[Brockton Bomber]

If I were Peter, I'd take the step-aside money. Then I'd step in and K Briggs TFO to take his belt, The WBO would probably go for it. They have Peter ranked #2. They just have to wait until after Ibragimov signs with Brock. That way, he can come back and unify against Vitali, probably for 50/50,(cause we all know Maskaev's getting KTFO).

You just have to think outside the box

[BoxingGorilla]

Peter should tell them to shove the money up their asses and never look back at the WBC. This is the third "guarantee." Or take the step aside money and retire from boxing. Wait a few years and then demand your title shot.

If I were Peter I'd leave this crooked ass sport alone.

[Brockton Bomber]

I hate unidentified SC's. I'm creeping up on a hundred, so some of you had better watch out. LOL

[Lords Gym]

The deal sounds better with the new offer of 50 percent purse split guarantee for Peter to fight the winner at least on paper . However I think there is a good chance that Vitali and Oleg both would retire after their match-up .. So fuck the offer and go for the gold. Peter has earned is right to fight and has paid his dues twice now !!! I would Fight Maskaev then see if Vitali still wants to come out of retirement and fight me with a 60-40 split in my favor !

[TyBuff]

If I am Peter; I dont paid my money and I want MY shot right now!!!! Forget about the money get the belt. If I dont get my shot I go to one of the other organizations and get their belt. Peter is getting screwed big on this one. Peter would already have the belt if the WBC hadnt mandated that he face Toney again. It all stinks to me.

[BoxingGorilla]

Peter would already have the belt if the WBC hadnt mandated that he face Toney again. It all stinks to me. Ty

I think Vitali and the WBC were in bed together on this along time ago. I think they called the Toney rematch to give Vitali more time to announce his return. Otherwise I think they'd tell Vitali to step back a be patient.

[Big_Deuce]

if i was him, i would take the cash, and wait for the winner of Oleg vs Vitali.
Lets face it, if it goes to court, WBC will win. Like it or not, WBC has it in their rule books, and in one way or another the WBC can play it, and spin it in their favor. The rules are vague enough, where they can claim Champion emeritus status Rule, OR use the fact that the WBC considers vitali a "legendary fighter" rule (which states the current #1 contender would have to wait, until the fight between the "legend" and the current champ is over)Thats just being honest guys.

If it goes to arbitration, and peter loses, he gets Nothing. No 2.5mil to chill and watch vitali and Oleg. So if i was him, and i was confident enough in my skills, i would wait, with a fat paycheck. And please dont give me this, He's turned them down bull, he didnt turn them down, They are still negotiating the 2.5mil, it will most likely go higher. And peter will most likely accept.
A fight between vitali and oleg would be bigger globally due to the fact of where these guys came from, and the slight animosity between the two from the amature days.
WBC will Do whats best for the WBC, and no one else. No corporation is any different. Just like don king, he will do whats best for Don king. And ill put my money on the fact that he will have peter take the step aside money, and spin the controversy when its time to fight the winner.
Think of the headlines he could come up with.
"they have tried to keep my man down, Well not anymore!"
"they were scared, blah blah blah, Not anymore"
"he has waited long enough blah blah blah"
actually, i think those are things he has been sayin now anyways lol
ahh well...

[Lords Gym]

If I am Peter; I dont paid my money and I want MY shot right now!!!! Forget about the money get the belt. If I dont get my shot I go to one of the other organizations and get their belt. Peter is getting screwed big on this one. Peter would already have the belt if the WBC hadnt mandated that he face Toney again. It all stinks to me.

exactly right.. a delay tactic is what all that was ! tie peter up with another meaningless fight vs. Toney, so that Vitali will have the proper time to train and be ready for Oleg ! At this point its a matter of principle.. A corrupt bunch of guys this WBC ! snuff queens the lot !

[Lords Gym]

Peter would already have the belt if the WBC hadnt mandated that he face Toney again. It all stinks to me. Ty

I think Vitali and the WBC were in bed together on this along time ago. I think they called the Toney rematch to give Vitali more time to announce his return. Otherwise I think they'd tell Vitali to step back a be patient.

right on ! # 257