BY DROPPING WEIGHT WILL I LOOSE POWER?

[LIL_IRON_MIKE]

BY DROPPING WEIGHT WILL I LOOSE POWER?AND ALSO WILL IT BE POSSIBLE FOR ME TO DROP FROM 225 TO 165. IM 19 GOING ON 20 5'10.
LET ME KNOW WHAT YALL THINK?

[silent assassin]

Depends on your body type/bone structure. Mike Tyson and Oscar DeLahoya are about the same height but Mike would have to die and decompose for a few months before he could be 165 lbs. and Oscar would be a butterball at 225lbs.
Since you are asking this question I take it that you are probably out of shape and not carrying the 225 well. To find your optimum weight I suggest gradually dropping weight by training. Monitor your weight, keep going down until you feel weaker and you do not have the same energy that you had before. This is when you dropped to low. Add lbs. back slowly until your energy and strength return. Thats when you're there.
You need to know your body, and only you will know at what weight you feel best (what ever weight that turns out to be ). Do not aim for a particular weight, take it off 1 lb.at a time and feel it out. Do this correctly and you will not lose much power if any.

Good Luck.

[Fantana]

LIL_IRON_MIKE


By dropping in weight will you loose power? This question has many variables which will need to be discussed, assesed and accounted for. DAA as I teach in my classes.


First of all, weight means a lot of things. It means water, fat, muscle, etc, there is only 1 thing you want to be looking at loosing (burning off) and that is FAT. You want to keep as much muscle as possible, while burning off your fat.

So you need to get your body fat accounted for. Now, if you have a big belly, and cannot see the bicep muscle line, your going probably to be over 25%, so your clinically obese.

Anyway, get it measured.

If you just drop without monitoring your body fat, you will end up loosing a lot of muscle and retaining fat and loosing power.

Cant be bothered writing all this out, PM me for more

[anotsu kagehisa]

LIL_IRON_MIKE


By dropping in weight will you loose power? This question has many variables which will need to be discussed, assesed and accounted for. DAA as I teach in my classes.


First of all, weight means a lot of things. It means water, fat, muscle, etc, there is only 1 thing you want to be looking at loosing (burning off) and that is FAT. You want to keep as much muscle as possible, while burning off your fat.

So you need to get your body fat accounted for. Now, if you have a big belly, and cannot see the bicep muscle line, your going probably to be over 25%, so your clinically obese.

Anyway, get it measured.

If you just drop without monitoring your body fat, you will end up loosing a lot of muscle and retaining fat and loosing power.

Cant be bothered writing all this out, PM me for more

So when it comes to weight loss there are a lot of factors to consider but how do they all come together? I just have a few questions that have been bothering me.

(1) We know that power comes from the muscle in a boxer's body but how would water and fats affect the power, speed and overall performance.

(2) In addition to muscles, water and fats, it was mentioned that the bone structure as well is a factor, why?

(3) In the de la hoya vs pacquiao match, de la hoya was considered dehydrated. When a boxer is unable to make weight, is draining water from the body a last resort? How big of a factor is water to our weight.

Thank you!!!

[AdamGB]

LIL_IRON_MIKE


By dropping in weight will you loose power? This question has many variables which will need to be discussed, assesed and accounted for. DAA as I teach in my classes.


First of all, weight means a lot of things. It means water, fat, muscle, etc, there is only 1 thing you want to be looking at loosing (burning off) and that is FAT. You want to keep as much muscle as possible, while burning off your fat.

So you need to get your body fat accounted for. Now, if you have a big belly, and cannot see the bicep muscle line, your going probably to be over 25%, so your clinically obese.

Anyway, get it measured.

If you just drop without monitoring your body fat, you will end up loosing a lot of muscle and retaining fat and loosing power.

Cant be bothered writing all this out, PM me for more

So when it comes to weight loss there are a lot of factors to consider but how do they all come together? I just have a few questions that have been bothering me.

(1) We know that power comes from the muscle in a boxer's body but how would water and fats affect the power, speed and overall performance.

(2) In addition to muscles, water and fats, it was mentioned that the bone structure as well is a factor, why?

(3) In the de la hoya vs pacquiao match, de la hoya was considered dehydrated. When a boxer is unable to make weight, is draining water from the body a last resort? How big of a factor is water to our weight.

Thank you!!!

1) Water is needed for the circulation of nutrients to and removal of waste products from the muscles, if you are dehydrated your muscles will not function correctly. Fat plays a role in energy production which could affect the muscles but it's more likely fantana is talking about the ability of the muscles to move the body and how this would be hindered by having dead weight (an abundance of fat) on you. If you come down in weight and lose muscle but regain fat (they both weigh something) you will not be as effective.

2) your muscles are only part of it... they are manipulating your skeleton through ranges of motion, the length of your legs, arms, shoulder width etc all effect the power that can be generated during a punch. Look At Tommy Hearns.

3) like I said it's very important. ODLH was dehydrated because a pro fighter will get down to a weight close to what they're fighting, dehydrate for the weigh in and then rehydrate afterwards before the fight. Oscar failed to rehydrate because he had to dehyrate way to much to hit the weight, making him so lethargic.

You can't be constantly dehydrated, pros do it because they have 24 hours to get the fluids back in.

[Memphis]

Now now Meunouk

[stephenlc]

I'm the same weight and I have a little chub on me but I am 6'1. I am trying to get down into the light heavyweight devision or maybe even the super middleweight. You really want to get in the smallest class you can without straining yourself or extreem weight loss before every fight.

[Fantana]

Now now Meunouk

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What was edited?

[Memphis]

The bit about, "leave this to the experts honey" or something like that anyway.

Silent Assassin is a current pro (the only one of the membership?) so I reckon he's worth listening to, if you dont agree thats fine, but micky taking is for the adult board dont you agree?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

the only thing I'd add to what silent has said is this, it is true you can gauge whether you have lost too much weight by your energy levels dipping but this can also be accounted for if you are overtraining, not eating well, dehydrated. So these things must also be considered.

[Fantana]

The bit about, "leave this to the experts honey" or something like that anyway.

Silent Assassin is a current pro (the only one of the membership?) so I reckon he's worth listening to, if you dont agree thats fine, but micky taking is for the adult board dont you agree?

Ah ok, I will leave my sense of humour in that section only then



My bad

[Howlin Mad Missy]

The bit about, "leave this to the experts honey" or something like that anyway.

Silent Assassin is a current pro (the only one of the membership?) so I reckon he's worth listening to, if you dont agree thats fine, but micky taking is for the adult board dont you agree?

Ah ok, I will leave my sense of humour in that section only then



My bad

nothing personal it's just we're trying to get a grip on the board and make it a little more serious so we don't have so many 'just bash his head in' training tips

[boyla]

if you are losing 80% or more fat you wont lose power, if you are losing muscle you may lose a little power but gain better condition and endurance.
Power for a boxer is mostly technique, i could throw a punch 50% harder in the ring but i choose not to telegaph or lose balance or jump into it.

What is yourtime scale for losing the weight, it could be too much too soon, always box at a weight you are comfatable with if you go to low you will be dehydrated and that will effect your preformance

[LIL_IRON_MIKE]

WELL I REALLY WANTED TO COMPETE IN THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION BUT ITS GUYS LIKE 7'2 NOW AND IM ONLY 5'10 AND ON TOP OF THAT I DONT KNOW IF IM DONE GROWING SO MAYBE 154OR160.

[silent assassin]

Now now Meunouk

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What was edited?

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