This word... BUM... IT'S GARBAGE!

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

It actually saddens me to see people on this site referring to fighters... (Some that are world champions) as bums. People have referred to the likes of (I know there are more but these are what come to mind of late) Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, John Duddy and others as bums.

I can't even piece together in my mind the stupidity involved in statements such as these.

There was a thread I was just reading about how Bernard Hopkins is a bum that should have retired years ago. Let’s look into this statement for a second and peel back a few of the layers of idiot, shall we?

First we'll look at Bernard on Paper...

Ring Magazine middleweight title (2002-2005)

Ring Magazine light heavyweight title (2006)

Longest EVER middleweight title reign.

Most EVER defenses as middleweight champ...

Ok... Bum already sounds pretty dumb, doesn't it?
Let us peel back another layer of moron.

Bernard as a fighter some will say... I included... Can be very boring. People fail to realize it is due to the fact that Bernard makes you fight on HIS terms. HE will dictate the pace of the action... HE will grind it down to a dull roar so he can pick you apart. He is one of the craftiest fighters of our time that can always find a way to beat you....

The fact that the other statement was "he should have retired years ago" is equally as idiotic...

hmmmm... oh, wait... what’s that say up there?

Oh that's right... Ring Magazine Light Heavyweight Title 2006.







Joe Calzaghe has also been called a bum... wow... There's almost too much stupid in that statement to attack in one thread... I actually feel dumber after typing that....



Calzaghe is the longest reigning title holder in any weight class in boxing... He was named the BBC Sports Personality of the year. JOE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN DEFEATED! Hmmmm... Damn bum

When he fought Lacy the American was supposed to decapitate the poor frail Welshman... LOL. What a beating

When he fought Kessler, he was fighting the "best" SMW in the world besides himself... And he was... But clearly not as good as himself.

There is no one in the world right now that has the work rate or the chin to take calzaghe out... PERIODE!



To call an undefeated Champ who has had that title for 10 years a bum is... well... They haven't made up a word for that yet









John Duddy was called a bum last week maybe...

Hmmm... lets take a look at this little kernel of ani-knowlege...



Duddy is clearly a fan favorite because of his brutal style and anti-fense... People love drama and when Duddy is in the ring he delivers... He has a Gatti like blood and guts style people can and do latch on to.

You never know what you're gonna get at a duddy fight cuz it seems either his opponent or himself could go at anytime... That's drama!

The sport needs its ying and yang... Like anything. You have your Floyds and Whitakers and you have your Gattis and Lamottas... You need one to have the other. It's the balance of boxing. To call one unnecessary or demean it is to do the same to the other.

Boxing needs its Duddys...

Will Duddy ever win a defense competition? Probably not...

Will he be a great draw and give us great fights? Sure... He has already






People need to know that it takes a special person to even set foot in that ring... Never mind be champ, reign for ten years, have 20 consecutive titles defenses or be a blood and guts crowd favorite...

[donnydarkoIRL]

Mate, would you believe it, I think I started a thread in the past with an identical title.

It really does disgust me when I hear fighters being denigrated with this word, particularily by individuals who contribute nothing to the sport.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Mate, would you believe it, I think I started a thread in the past with an identical title.

It really does disgust me when I hear fighters being denigrated with this word, particularily by individuals who contribute nothing to the sport.

It just pisses me off... A feel dumber whenever I read one of those threads of idiocy

[donnydarkoIRL]

I can relate Pride,
Last week I started another thread criticising people who never boxed needlessly criticising fighters.

It really makes my blood boil hearing that.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

When I fought I used to dream of having a fight at a decent venue... Never mind doing what these guys do every 6 to 10 months...

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yeah I know exactly what you mean.
The fact is that journeymen, veterans and prospects make up 90% of the fight game. Every fighter can't be a world champion. Respect should be allowed for all fighters, not just the best.

[Violent Demise]

It actually saddens me to see people on this site referring to fighters... (Some that are world champions) as bums. People have referred to the likes of (I know there are more but these are what come to mind of late) Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, John Duddy and others as bums.

I can't even piece together in my mind the stupidity involved in statements such as these.

There was a thread I was just reading about how Bernard Hopkins is a bum that should have retired years ago. Let’s look into this statement for a second and peel back a few of the layers of idiot, shall we?

First we'll look at Bernard on Paper...

Ring Magazine middleweight title (2002-2005)

Ring Magazine light heavyweight title (2006)

Longest EVER middleweight title reign.

Most EVER defenses as middleweight champ...

Ok... Bum already sounds pretty dumb, doesn't it?
Let us peel back another layer of moron.

Bernard as a fighter some will say... I included... Can be very boring. People fail to realize it is due to the fact that Bernard makes you fight on HIS terms. HE will dictate the pace of the action... HE will grind it down to a dull roar so he can pick you apart. He is one of the craftiest fighters of our time that can always find a way to beat you....

The fact that the other statement was "he should have retired years ago" is equally as idiotic...

hmmmm... oh, wait... what’s that say up there?

Oh that's right... Ring Magazine Light Heavyweight Title 2006.







Joe Calzaghe has also been called a bum... wow... There's almost too much stupid in that statement to attack in one thread... I actually feel dumber after typing that....



Calzaghe is the longest reigning title holder in any weight class in boxing... He was named the BBC Sports Personality of the year. JOE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN DEFEATED! Hmmmm... Damn bum

When he fought Lacy the American was supposed to decapitate the poor frail Welshman... LOL. What a beating

When he fought Kessler, he was fighting the "best" SMW in the world besides himself... And he was... But clearly not as good as himself.

There is no one in the world right now that has the work rate or the chin to take calzaghe out... PERIODE!



To call an undefeated Champ who has had that title for 10 years a bum is... well... They haven't made up a word for that yet









John Duddy was called a bum last week maybe...

Hmmm... lets take a look at this little kernel of ani-knowlege...



Duddy is clearly a fan favorite because of his brutal style and anti-fense... People love drama and when Duddy is in the ring he delivers... He has a Gatti like blood and guts style people can and do latch on to.

You never know what you're gonna get at a duddy fight cuz it seems either his opponent or himself could go at anytime... That's drama!

The sport needs its ying and yang... Like anything. You have your Floyds and Whitakers and you have your Gattis and Lamottas... You need one to have the other. It's the balance of boxing. To call one unnecessary or demean it is to do the same to the other.

Boxing needs its Duddys...

Will Duddy ever win a defense competition? Probably not...

Will he be a great draw and give us great fights? Sure... He has already






People need to know that it takes a special person to even set foot in that ring... Never mind be champ, reign for ten years, have 20 consecutive titles defenses or be a blood and guts crowd favorite...

I agree. The word bum should be used only for fighters that are actually bums. Peter "Super Bum" Manfredo for example

[donnydarkoIRL]

Manfredo may be described as a "Pretender,"

Sorry Pride, but when I was at Calzaghe Manfredo and saw the guy come out for the fight I knew I could be a pro fighter as I pretty much towered over him and....
Well this is harsh and I've never made a comment like it before......

but I would have done better against Calzafghe than Peter did.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

"Superbum"... New that was coming

"pretender" yes... He is a regional fighter who looks like a deer in headlights on a world stage... I have no illusions of that

[donnydarkoIRL]

"Superbum"... New that was coming

"pretender" yes... He is a regional fighter who looks like a deer in headlights on a world stage... I have no illusions of that

I actually like the guy and you know, he's not actually afraid to get in there but when he's in there he seems to freeze. He could have won against Lacy until the knockdown then he just froze up

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I actually like the guy and you know, he's not actually afraid to get in there but when he's in there he seems to freeze. He could have won against Lacy until the knockdown then he just froze up

That pissed me off... He wasn't even hurt... F**kin needs to man up or stay in Rhode Island... He's making us look bad!

[match]

John Ruiz is a bum. This is just a fact of life.

[donnydarkoIRL]

John Ruiz is a former Heavyweight champion of the world and although his style is far from admirable and he may be one oof the least popular champions ever, he was a representitive of the world of boxing and to belittle him is to belittle boxing.

[match]

Correction: Lennox Lewis was the heavyweight champion of the world. John Ruiz was a belt holder. To label him anything else is to insult the intellegence of all boxing fans.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Correction: Lennox Lewis was the heavyweight champion of the world. John Ruiz was a belt holder. To label him anything else is to insult the intellegence of all boxing fans.

The fact that we WANT one unified champion unfortunately doesn't change the fact that Lewis was not the only champion at the time.


If you take note of the Middleweight division now, We have two World Champions (Abraham and Pavlik) who have legitimate claims at being Champ. (I have discluded Sturm as he has been inconsistent)
The same for the curent Cruiser weight division, Although Haye is the unified Champion, Maccarenelli does have a claim at the World title too.