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    Default Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    I'm wondering after his demolition of Macca, if Haye is the future of the HW Division. The guy is a MURDEROUS puncher at cruiser and quite honestly, I think he's probably been weight-drained the entire time. With an added 20-25 pounds on his frame, he'd most likely carry his power up to heavyweight. At 6'3, he's not all that tall but it wouldn't be a handicap, he'd be a decent size heavyweight. I could see him giving any one of the heavyweights a run for their money because of his speed and punching style. He almost reminds exactly of a 200 pound version of Andre Berto. I know his chin is a little questionable but I think it's more a product of him not being at the right weight a la Cotto @ 140. The kid is a future star IMO and along with Sam Peter is the type of fighter that heavyweight boxing needs. I don't really keep up with British boxing but this guy and JoeCal are making me pay more attention. What do you guys think?

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    I say if by bulked up to 215, he would not lose any speed off the delivery of his punches. Speed will be his money maker.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    He would definitely do well, however, I think that Wlad would still have his number, Wlad is more desciplined, well schooled, and he is basically the natural heavyweight version of David Haye, both are fast, huge power, and more importantly immensely strong.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Definitely, I would fancy him against ANY heavyweight right now.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    I have to respectfully disagree.

    He put on a great show last night, but he is not the 'savior' of the heavyweight division.

    Truth be told, there isn't a savior looming anywhere on the horizon right now for the heavies. Wlad is the closest thing we get, and he is flawed beyond repair. I love both Klitschkos, but Wlad will never be able to engage like the old days (without fear of getting sparked) and Vitali... well, if Vitali could make it through training camp without incident he could clean up, but I fear his best days are fast receeding into the sunet.

    David Haye reminds me too much of Dominick Guinn.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    I'll go with the idea that I'm not sure he's the savior of the heavyweight division but I can't wait to see him get in the mix. I worry about the chin/defense factor but...an exciting heavyweight



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    David Haye reminds me too much of Dominick Guinn.
    Seriously? Can't think of a worse comparison, the only fighters out there are that are comparable to Guinn are Audley Harrison and Timur Ibragimov. Even Sam Peter, Wlad, Sultan, Valuev, etc aren't as boring as Guinn.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    He would definitely do well, however, I think that Wlad would still have his number, Wlad is more desciplined, well schooled, and he is basically the natural heavyweight version of David Haye, both are fast, huge power, and more importantly immensely strong.
    Wlad has been on his ass 11 times through his career and if he was KO'd by Sanders and Brewster then imagine what David Haye will do to him when he lands a hayemaker as remmeber when Haye goes up to heavy he will be hitting harder than he was at cruiser and you seen what he did to Bonin at heavy.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Wlad has been on his ass 11 times through his career and if he was KO'd by Sanders and Brewster then imagine what David Haye will do to him when he lands a hayemaker as remmeber when Haye goes up to heavy he will be hitting harder than he was at cruiser and you seen what he did to Bonin at heavy.
    ... You have got to be kidding me... look what happened to Haye against Thompson... Also tell me again what Sanders' and Brewster's ko% in the heavyweights is again? Yeah thats what I thought, both of them hit harder than Haye, and thats not the point. Klitschko doesn't fight like he used to, haye would never find the oppertunity to hit Klitschko, and he sure as hell couldn't handle Wlad's power. If Haye even gets to Wlad, which he could, he will be beaten for sure.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    ... You have got to be kidding me... look what happened to Haye against Thompson... Also tell me again what Sanders' and Brewster's ko% in the heavyweights is again? Yeah thats what I thought, both of them hit harder than Haye, and thats not the point. Klitschko doesn't fight like he used to, haye would never find the oppertunity to hit Klitschko, and he sure as hell couldn't handle Wlad's power. If Haye even gets to Wlad, which he could, he will be beaten for sure.
    I cannot believe you have nearly 4,000 posts and you come out with that. Haye got beat by Carl Thompson, a world chamipon who he fought in his 11th pro fight and he was winning until he GASSED OUT. Wlad Klitchsko got brutally KO'd by Sanders, Corrie Sanders is a bum seen in his last fight, he was a WBU champion which says it all and he knocked Wlad the fuck out and Sanders got KNFO himself by Rahman. Haye has more power than Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster, if you think Haye will be hitting twice has hard at heavy and your chatting shit by saying Sanders has more power than Haye, no fuckin way and Wlad's chin is awful.

    David Haye KO'd a heavyweight monster in Tomasz Bonin in just over a minute knocking him down 3 times and he has 20 KO's in 21 wins so work that percentage out .

    I can't wait till this fight happens (Unless Wlad ducks him) as Haye will knock 2 shades of shit out of Klitchs "Shit scared to go for the" ko.
    Last edited by leftylee; 03-10-2008 at 10:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Well i think it was 2 fights ago he dipped his toe at heavy and he looked the bizz.... speed was as fast as ever looked better than i had seen him look in a while and the extra weight suited him so for me he will fit in really well and make alot of noise...

    cant remember who he was in against offhand and cba to look but i do remamber being well impressed with him and preformance at the time

    its no secret that he has been struggling to make the weight for years so we might just have something to rave about.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    He is no HW division saviour...Haye has a lot of flaws in his style...Flaws that if he brought with him to the HW division he gets sparked...The biggest being the way he holds down his left hand.....Haye does not impress me....Sorry gents but you are all just so desperate for a HW you are willing to take anyone with a pulse
    Hidden Content IN CASE THEY ALL FORGOT WHAT REAL HEAVYWEIGHT POWER WAS!!!

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    The biggest being the way he holds down his left hand
    bit like that Lewis gif in your sig

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    He is no HW division saviour...Haye has a lot of flaws in his style...Flaws that if he brought with him to the HW division he gets sparked...The biggest being the way he holds down his left hand.....Haye does not impress me....Sorry gents but you are all just so desperate for a HW you are willing to take anyone with a pulse
    I can't wait till Haye proves you wrong and knocks out your boy Klitchs "Scared to go for the" ko.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    He is no HW division saviour...Haye has a lot of flaws in his style...Flaws that if he brought with him to the HW division he gets sparked...The biggest being the way he holds down his left hand.....Haye does not impress me....Sorry gents but you are all just so desperate for a HW you are willing to take anyone with a pulse
    Agree with that...these are the kind of words I am talking about when people are describing Haye. Things like 'Saviour' etc are wayyy off the mark. He's an unknown entity when he is moving up to the heavyweight division. Its exciting thinking about him going there and the whole reason it's exciting is because of his flaws!
    There are questions that need answering about his chin, defense, reflexes etc. that are going to be tested in a whole different way in the heavyweight division.
    Would any of you bet your house that he is going to clean up at that division? If the answer is no then you certainly can't call him a saviour. If you mean he is going to create some excitement in a boring heavyweight division because you don't know how his fight's are gonna go, then maybe then you can call him a 'saviour'.

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    Default Re: Is David Haye the savior of the heavyweight division?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    He is no HW division saviour...Haye has a lot of flaws in his style...Flaws that if he brought with him to the HW division he gets sparked...The biggest being the way he holds down his left hand.....Haye does not impress me....Sorry gents but you are all just so desperate for a HW you are willing to take anyone with a pulse
    Some of the greatest Heavyweights of all time held there left hand low, aka Larry Holmes, Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis, just to name a few.

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