Hopkins could've won, probably should've won, but he didn't!!

[BIG H]

Not taking anything away from Joe, who won the fight imo, but I think it was more of a case of Hop losing the fight rather than Joe winning it.
Hopkins was great for 3 rounds, but thereafter you just cannot make a case for him winning with that work rate and punches thrown/landed. I know its 'cuda wud shuda' but Hopkins is so frusrating because the fight was there to win, just like both Taylor fights, but he does not have the work rate plain and simple. It was very close, but being completely objective Joe won the fight, but it wasn't impressive and could've been a different story. Massive props to Joe for getting off his arse with a nasty cut, away from home and digging deeep to nick the win

My card

Round 1 Hopkins 10-8
Round 2 Hopkins 10-9
Round 3 Hopkins 10-9 Could have gone either way imo
Round 4 Calzaghe 10-9 Could have gone either way imo
Round 5 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 6 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 7 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 8 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 9 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 10 Hopkins 10-9 Could have gone either way imo
Round 11 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 12 Calzaghe 10-9

[BIG H]

That sounds like I was rooting for B-Hop which I very much wasn't by the way

[Taeth]

That's a bs scorecard... Calzaghe wasn't landing shit all, and Hopkins won more rounds early, and definitely more down the stretch.

[BIG H]

That's a bs scorecard... Calzaghe wasn't landing shit all, and Hopkins won more rounds early, and definitely more down the stretch.

Let's see your card then fella

[:::PSL:::]

Hopkins was winning the first quarter of the fight. But that's just pretty much about him.

[p4pking]

I think it was basically to be expected that Joe would win a very close fight which he wouldn't look good in. Hopkins is just too old to throw a lot of solid punches as the fight progresses. Though Calzaghe edged it imo, and I picked him to win, not that it matters.. The people saying he was going to dominate Hopkins should feel stupid. Nobody dominates Hopkins and Calzaghe certainly didn't have the style to do so.

[ICB]

I'll do my scorecard later but i felt Hopkins won more rounds than that.

[Taeth]

I'lll show mine as well, but Hopkins was getting the better of the fight for the first 6 rounds not four, and he won a couple of rounds down the stretch. I had him up 4-2 in the first 6 rounds then I had him winning two rounds down the stretch.

[LondonBB]

Not taking anything away from Joe, who won the fight imo, but I think it was more of a case of Hop losing the fight rather than Joe winning it.
Hopkins was great for 3 rounds, but thereafter you just cannot make a case for him winning with that work rate and punches thrown/landed. I know its 'cuda wud shuda' but Hopkins is so frusrating because the fight was there to win, just like both Taylor fights, but he does not have the work rate plain and simple. It was very close, but being completely objective Joe won the fight, but it wasn't impressive and could've been a different story. Massive props to Joe for getting off his arse with a nasty cut, away from home and digging deeep to nick the win

My card

Round 1 Hopkins 10-8
Round 2 Hopkins 10-9
Round 3 Hopkins 10-9 Could have gone either way imo
Round 4 Calzaghe 10-9 Could have gone either way imo
Round 5 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 6 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 7 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 8 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 9 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 10 Hopkins 10-9 Could have gone either way imo
Round 11 Calzaghe 10-9
Round 12 Calzaghe 10-9

Spot on mate.

Thats exactly how i had it EXCEPT for one of the calzaghe rounds i gave as a draw...giving calz a 115, 113 win.

Hopkins put calz down in the first, was a bit of a flash knock down and calz got up totally unaffected instantly, but a kd is a kd none the less and it showed hopkins outclassing him.

However, from the 3rd round on calzaghe started to adapt and figure out hopkins.

WHY DO PEOPLE LOVE TO ARGUE WITH THE FACTS? They are so so so stupid if they say calz slapped hopkins, there was an occassion in round 10 where bhop looked like he was going down, he was rocked badly from a calzaghe hook and had to clinch to survive.

All in all i was impressed with bops effort in the fight, but calzaghe was simply too good, adapted his game and took the fight to hopkins, the aggressor started BOSSING the fight against hopkins negative philly style and picking great punches off on him .

People cant argue with the facts from compubox!!!

Total thrown (Hopkins/Calzaghe): 468/707

Total landed: 127/232

Percentage landed: 27/33

Jabs thrown: 93/224

Jabs landed: 11/45

Percentage landed: 12/20

Power punches thrown: 375/483

Power punches landed: 116/187

Percentage landed: 31/39

THE FACTS CLEARLY SHOW CALZAGHE LANDED MORE PUNCHES AND HAD A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF HIS PUNCHES LAND ASWELL. He hurt bhop bad in the 10th.

If it wasnt for the knockdown in the first then it woulda been a pretty 1 dimensional fight. But in the end it was calzaghe's ability to adapt and then relax into his unique boxing style and then boss hopkins around the ring, hopkins was spent by the 8th round and tried every dirty tactic (totally unsportsmanlike to take 4 minutes off for a blow that wasnt even low!)...for anyone that says hopkins won...DELUSIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Taeth]

Are compubox records facts now? Or were you blind, and couldn't see the fight for yourself? You can honestly say those punch stats are valid? If so maybe you haven't watched enough boxing.

This isn't at all like the Taylor fight, Bernard threw more punches than he did against Taylor, he landed more punches, I think Calzaghe was an easier opponent for Bernard style wise. Because Taylor was very athletic and spazzy when Beranrd would come in, it makes it harder to do anything againt him, also because Taylor could hit harder than Calzaghe, and he hit Bernard a lot cleaner than Joe was able to last night.

[LondonBB]

Are compubox records facts now? Or were you blind, and couldn't see the fight for yourself? You can honestly say those punch stats are valid? If so maybe you haven't watched enough boxing.

This isn't at all like the Taylor fight, Bernard threw more punches than he did against Taylor, he landed more punches, I think Calzaghe was an easier opponent for Bernard style wise. Because Taylor was very athletic and spazzy when Beranrd would come in, it makes it harder to do anything againt him, also because Taylor could hit harder than Calzaghe, and he hit Bernard a lot cleaner than Joe was able to last night.

Course i saw the fight, IVE ALSO GOT IN ON VIDEO AND HAVE SEEN IT TWICE MORE!

Every time i see the fight i come to exactly the same conclusion, hopkins takes 4 rounds, calzaghe 7 rounds and 1 round a draw...that gives calz a 115,113 win.

What totally cracks me up is that calzaghe got the second best punch in the fight, he ROCKED HOPKINS BIG TIME IN THE 10TH, HOPKINS WAS HURT AND IMMEADIATELY CLINCHED...WHY DOES THIS SEEM TO ESCAPE THE 'DOUBTERS' AND 'HATERS' KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIGHT?

Watch round 10 again, ive seen it 3 times already, calzaghe rocks hopkins with a clear hook straight to the chin on nard!

Had nard done that to calzaghe there would be many guys picking up on it but because its the other way round they dont want to acknowledge it!

Sorry, i showed my scorecard of the fight and the facts back up my scorecard and my decissions.

All in all calzaghe started poorly and then from rounds 4-12 (rnd 4 was the turning point) he figured out bhop and outclassed him.

A close fight, but calz threw some quality punches aswell, throwing and landing a lot more than hopkins did.

DEAL WITH IT, CALZAGHE WON!

In the end its like this:

calz throws lets say 100 punches, 60 of them hit, 20 are power punches.

nard throws 60 punches, 30 of them hit, 17 are power punches.

Thats how it worked, a higher percentage of hopkins shots were power puches BUT CALZAGHE LANDED MORE POWER PUNCHES IN THE FIGHT. Just because someone lands a comparitavely higher amount of punches means nothing because calz threw and landed more big shots. AGAIN I WILL SAY 'LOOK AT ROUND 10 AGAIN!!!'

I have videod this fight and i can see it clearly, theres no way hopkins got the fight...i'll give you the benefit of the doubt though mate seeing as you might not have videod it and therefore have only seen it once. Check the fight out again, in particular when hop is rocked in the 10th, then you see calzaghe doing damage!

[ICB]

Are compubox records facts now? Or were you blind, and couldn't see the fight for yourself? You can honestly say those punch stats are valid? If so maybe you haven't watched enough boxing.

This isn't at all like the Taylor fight, Bernard threw more punches than he did against Taylor, he landed more punches, I think Calzaghe was an easier opponent for Bernard style wise. Because Taylor was very athletic and spazzy when Beranrd would come in, it makes it harder to do anything againt him, also because Taylor could hit harder than Calzaghe, and he hit Bernard a lot cleaner than Joe was able to last night.

Course i saw the fight, IVE ALSO GOT IN ON VIDEO AND HAVE SEEN IT TWICE MORE!

Every time i see the fight i come to exactly the same conclusion, hopkins takes 4 rounds, calzaghe 7 rounds and 1 round a draw...that gives calz a 115,113 win.

What totally cracks me up is that calzaghe got the second best punch in the fight, he ROCKED HOPKINS BIG TIME IN THE 10TH, HOPKINS WAS HURT AND IMMEADIATELY CLINCHED...WHY DOES THIS SEEM TO ESCAPE THE 'DOUBTERS' AND 'HATERS' KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIGHT?

Watch round 10 again, ive seen it 3 times already, calzaghe rocks hopkins with a clear hook straight to the chin on nard!

Had nard done that to calzaghe there would be many guys picking up on it but because its the other way round they dont want to acknowledge it!

Sorry, i showed my scorecard of the fight and the facts back up my scorecard and my decissions.

All in all calzaghe started poorly and then from rounds 4-12 (rnd 4 was the turning point) he figured out bhop and outclassed him.

A close fight, but calz threw some quality punches aswell, throwing and landing a lot more than hopkins did.

DEAL WITH IT, CALZAGHE WON!

In the end its like this:

calz throws lets say 100 punches, 60 of them hit, 20 are power punches.

nard throws 60 punches, 30 of them hit, 17 are power punches.

Thats how it worked, a higher percentage of hopkins shots were power puches BUT CALZAGHE LANDED MORE POWER PUNCHES IN THE FIGHT. Just because someone lands a comparitavely higher amount of punches means nothing because calz threw and landed more big shots. AGAIN I WILL SAY 'LOOK AT ROUND 10 AGAIN!!!'

I have videod this fight and i can see it clearly, theres no way hopkins got the fight...i'll give you the benefit of the doubt though mate seeing as you might not have videod it and therefore have only seen it once. Check the fight out again, in particular when hop is rocked in the 10th, then you see calzaghe doing damage!

Actually Hopkins landed 2nd best punch when he rocked Calzaghe at the end of the round and Calzaghe almost went down.

[LondonBB]

Are compubox records facts now? Or were you blind, and couldn't see the fight for yourself? You can honestly say those punch stats are valid? If so maybe you haven't watched enough boxing.

This isn't at all like the Taylor fight, Bernard threw more punches than he did against Taylor, he landed more punches, I think Calzaghe was an easier opponent for Bernard style wise. Because Taylor was very athletic and spazzy when Beranrd would come in, it makes it harder to do anything againt him, also because Taylor could hit harder than Calzaghe, and he hit Bernard a lot cleaner than Joe was able to last night.

Course i saw the fight, IVE ALSO GOT IN ON VIDEO AND HAVE SEEN IT TWICE MORE!

Every time i see the fight i come to exactly the same conclusion, hopkins takes 4 rounds, calzaghe 7 rounds and 1 round a draw...that gives calz a 115,113 win.

What totally cracks me up is that calzaghe got the second best punch in the fight, he ROCKED HOPKINS BIG TIME IN THE 10TH, HOPKINS WAS HURT AND IMMEADIATELY CLINCHED...WHY DOES THIS SEEM TO ESCAPE THE 'DOUBTERS' AND 'HATERS' KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIGHT?

Watch round 10 again, ive seen it 3 times already, calzaghe rocks hopkins with a clear hook straight to the chin on nard!

Had nard done that to calzaghe there would be many guys picking up on it but because its the other way round they dont want to acknowledge it!

Sorry, i showed my scorecard of the fight and the facts back up my scorecard and my decissions.

All in all calzaghe started poorly and then from rounds 4-12 (rnd 4 was the turning point) he figured out bhop and outclassed him.

A close fight, but calz threw some quality punches aswell, throwing and landing a lot more than hopkins did.

DEAL WITH IT, CALZAGHE WON!

In the end its like this:

calz throws lets say 100 punches, 60 of them hit, 20 are power punches.

nard throws 60 punches, 30 of them hit, 17 are power punches.

Thats how it worked, a higher percentage of hopkins shots were power puches BUT CALZAGHE LANDED MORE POWER PUNCHES IN THE FIGHT. Just because someone lands a comparitavely higher amount of punches means nothing because calz threw and landed more big shots. AGAIN I WILL SAY 'LOOK AT ROUND 10 AGAIN!!!'

I have videod this fight and i can see it clearly, theres no way hopkins got the fight...i'll give you the benefit of the doubt though mate seeing as you might not have videod it and therefore have only seen it once. Check the fight out again, in particular when hop is rocked in the 10th, then you see calzaghe doing damage!

Actually Hopkins landed 2nd best punch when he rocked Calzaghe at the end of the round and Calzaghe almost went down.

Wrong...calzaghe wasnt rocked, he never needed to clinch or back off, he just got caught square with his feet square.

STOP MAKING EXCUSES!

YOUR MAN LOST, DEAL WITH IT!

[Taeth]

Are compubox records facts now? Or were you blind, and couldn't see the fight for yourself? You can honestly say those punch stats are valid? If so maybe you haven't watched enough boxing.

This isn't at all like the Taylor fight, Bernard threw more punches than he did against Taylor, he landed more punches, I think Calzaghe was an easier opponent for Bernard style wise. Because Taylor was very athletic and spazzy when Beranrd would come in, it makes it harder to do anything againt him, also because Taylor could hit harder than Calzaghe, and he hit Bernard a lot cleaner than Joe was able to last night.

Course i saw the fight, IVE ALSO GOT IN ON VIDEO AND HAVE SEEN IT TWICE MORE!

Every time i see the fight i come to exactly the same conclusion, hopkins takes 4 rounds, calzaghe 7 rounds and 1 round a draw...that gives calz a 115,113 win.

What totally cracks me up is that calzaghe got the second best punch in the fight, he ROCKED HOPKINS BIG TIME IN THE 10TH, HOPKINS WAS HURT AND IMMEADIATELY CLINCHED...WHY DOES THIS SEEM TO ESCAPE THE 'DOUBTERS' AND 'HATERS' KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIGHT?

Watch round 10 again, ive seen it 3 times already, calzaghe rocks hopkins with a clear hook straight to the chin on nard!

Had nard done that to calzaghe there would be many guys picking up on it but because its the other way round they dont want to acknowledge it!

Sorry, i showed my scorecard of the fight and the facts back up my scorecard and my decissions.

All in all calzaghe started poorly and then from rounds 4-12 (rnd 4 was the turning point) he figured out bhop and outclassed him.

A close fight, but calz threw some quality punches aswell, throwing and landing a lot more than hopkins did.

DEAL WITH IT, CALZAGHE WON!

In the end its like this:

calz throws lets say 100 punches, 60 of them hit, 20 are power punches.

nard throws 60 punches, 30 of them hit, 17 are power punches.

Thats how it worked, a higher percentage of hopkins shots were power puches BUT CALZAGHE LANDED MORE POWER PUNCHES IN THE FIGHT. Just because someone lands a comparitavely higher amount of punches means nothing because calz threw and landed more big shots. AGAIN I WILL SAY 'LOOK AT ROUND 10 AGAIN!!!'

I have videod this fight and i can see it clearly, theres no way hopkins got the fight...i'll give you the benefit of the doubt though mate seeing as you might not have videod it and therefore have only seen it once. Check the fight out again, in particular when hop is rocked in the 10th, then you see calzaghe doing damage!

you have no idea what your talking about, I have not stated who I was cheering for, I am a big fan of both fihgters.

You know nothing about boxing... I am sure of that. No way did Calzaghe land more big punches, and no way did he ever come close to hurting Bernard.

That fact is that Calzaghe didn't figure Bernard out, Bernard stopped throwing punches, while Calzaghe continued to miss most of his punches. Also Calzaghe was not throwing quality punches, and has not thrown quality punches in a long time except maybe against Kessler. Even against Lacy, it was more the fact that Lacy can't deal with movement or somebody else throwing first than the fact Calzaghe is a "god". Calzaghe definitely wasn't landing crisp punches last night. I thought he would win most of the rounds before the fight, but that it would be tough, but I had no idea Bernard was on a totally different level than Calzaghe when it came to skill. When Bernard was fighting with freshness he was too slick, too hard of a puncher, and too smart for Calzaghe to deal with.

[LondonBB]

Are compubox records facts now? Or were you blind, and couldn't see the fight for yourself? You can honestly say those punch stats are valid? If so maybe you haven't watched enough boxing.

This isn't at all like the Taylor fight, Bernard threw more punches than he did against Taylor, he landed more punches, I think Calzaghe was an easier opponent for Bernard style wise. Because Taylor was very athletic and spazzy when Beranrd would come in, it makes it harder to do anything againt him, also because Taylor could hit harder than Calzaghe, and he hit Bernard a lot cleaner than Joe was able to last night.

Course i saw the fight, IVE ALSO GOT IN ON VIDEO AND HAVE SEEN IT TWICE MORE!

Every time i see the fight i come to exactly the same conclusion, hopkins takes 4 rounds, calzaghe 7 rounds and 1 round a draw...that gives calz a 115,113 win.

What totally cracks me up is that calzaghe got the second best punch in the fight, he ROCKED HOPKINS BIG TIME IN THE 10TH, HOPKINS WAS HURT AND IMMEADIATELY CLINCHED...WHY DOES THIS SEEM TO ESCAPE THE 'DOUBTERS' AND 'HATERS' KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIGHT?

Watch round 10 again, ive seen it 3 times already, calzaghe rocks hopkins with a clear hook straight to the chin on nard!

Had nard done that to calzaghe there would be many guys picking up on it but because its the other way round they dont want to acknowledge it!

Sorry, i showed my scorecard of the fight and the facts back up my scorecard and my decissions.

All in all calzaghe started poorly and then from rounds 4-12 (rnd 4 was the turning point) he figured out bhop and outclassed him.

A close fight, but calz threw some quality punches aswell, throwing and landing a lot more than hopkins did.

DEAL WITH IT, CALZAGHE WON!

In the end its like this:

calz throws lets say 100 punches, 60 of them hit, 20 are power punches.

nard throws 60 punches, 30 of them hit, 17 are power punches.

Thats how it worked, a higher percentage of hopkins shots were power puches BUT CALZAGHE LANDED MORE POWER PUNCHES IN THE FIGHT. Just because someone lands a comparitavely higher amount of punches means nothing because calz threw and landed more big shots. AGAIN I WILL SAY 'LOOK AT ROUND 10 AGAIN!!!'

I have videod this fight and i can see it clearly, theres no way hopkins got the fight...i'll give you the benefit of the doubt though mate seeing as you might not have videod it and therefore have only seen it once. Check the fight out again, in particular when hop is rocked in the 10th, then you see calzaghe doing damage!

you have no idea what your talking about, I have not stated who I was cheering for, I am a big fan of both fihgters.

You know nothing about boxing... I am sure of that. No way did Calzaghe land more big punches, and no way did he ever come close to hurting Bernard.

That fact is that Calzaghe didn't figure Bernard out, Bernard stopped throwing punches, while Calzaghe continued to miss most of his punches. Also Calzaghe was not throwing quality punches, and has not thrown quality punches in a long time except maybe against Kessler. Even against Lacy, it was more the fact that Lacy can't deal with movement or somebody else throwing first than the fact Calzaghe is a "god". Calzaghe definitely wasn't landing crisp punches last night. I thought he would win most of the rounds before the fight, but that it would be tough, but I had no idea Bernard was on a totally different level than Calzaghe when it came to skill. When Bernard was fighting with freshness he was too slick, too hard of a puncher, and too smart for Calzaghe to deal with.

YOUR MAN LOST, DEAL WITH IT!