Greatest Heavyweight

[jmbtandy]

Design the best Heavyweight built from others have to have been world champions to qualify

Mind - Muhammad Ali
Chin - Oliver McCall
Speed - Mike Tyson
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Vitali Klitschko
Heart - Evander Holyfield

Worst

Mind - Oliver McCall
Chin - Wladimir Klischko
Speed - Nikolay Valuev
Jab - George Foreman
Power - Leon Spinks
Heart - Sonny Liston

[BIG H]

Good choices fella

Mine:

Mind - Lennox Lewis
Chin - George Chuvalho
Speed - Muhammad Ali
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - George Foreman
Heart - Jim Braddock

[Shamrock]

Mind - Jack Johnson
Chin - Chuvalo
Speed - Ali
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Sonny Liston
Heart - Floyd Patterson - anyone who gets up six times in a fight is either very brave or very stupid !!!

I tried to pick some different fighters but speed - Ali and jab - Holmes there were not really any other choices.

[GAME]

Mind - Lennox Lewis
Chin - Oliver Mcall
Speed - Ali
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Tyson
Heart - Holyfield

I think that fighter would have everything covered .

[Dark Lord Al]

Mind - Lennox Lewis
Chin - Oliver Mcall
Speed - Ali
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Tyson
Heart - Holyfield

I think that fighter would have everything covered .

Pretty close to my way of thinking id just swap -
Power to Foreman.

[GAME]

Mind - Lennox Lewis
Chin - Oliver Mcall
Speed - Ali
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Tyson
Heart - Holyfield

I think that fighter would have everything covered .

Pretty close to my way of thinking id just swap -
Power to Foreman.

I was gonna pick Foreman . It was between them two. I just thought of Tysons ferocity and Foremans plodding and that was the clincher for me.

[Master]

Mind - Ali
Chin - Oliver Mcall
Speed - Tyson
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Foreman
Heart - Rocky

Conditioning - Holyfield

[NUCLEAR BULL]

mind - ali
chin - chuvalo
hand speed - tyson
footwork - ali
stamina - marciano
punch power - shavers
money punch - fraziers left hook
heart - holyfield
longevity - joe louis ( no ones ever come near his time and defences as champ )

[El Kabong]

If I have to break it down...

Mental makeup: Joe Louis - he came to win every fight he had, he was the greatest champion, the toughest physically and mentally. If Joe put his mind to it he could have beaten ANYONE

Physical makeup: Prime George Foreman 6'4 220-230 - The most intimidating person you could ever set foot in the ring with. He was HUGE for that time but not so big to where he was clumsy and he was rugged.

Chin: George Chuvalo - He got KO'd before but he didn't get knocked down and he fought Frazier AND Foreman

Footwork: Riddick Bowe - everyone talks about Ali's footwork but with Ali he didn't sit on his punches and get the big power off of them and Riddick did! Riddick could stick and move and he could stalk someone down he was VERY athletic.

Hand Speed: Muhamed Ali - Ali could throw punches really quick when he wanted to and in bunches too.

Power: Vitali Klitschko - He doesn't really have that 1 shotgun blast type of power but he's KO'd all but 1 guy who he has beaten and he has stopped guys in late rounds. He accumulates punishment, can KO someone with a combination, AND he carries his power late into fights.

Jab: Wladimir Klitschko - It's basically a power punch when he throws it...I think it's more dominant than Larry Holmes' jab but maybe that's just me.

Right Cross: Joe Louis - He threw it quick, straight, was always in range AND it was devistating.

Left Hook: Joe Frazier - Come on, did anyone bar Tyson have a hook that came close to matching Joe's

Uppercut: (right) Lennox Lewis/ (left) Mike Tyson - Lennox had a longer uppercut and probably more powerful but Tyson's was faster and devistating as well.

Right Hook: George Foreman - when he threw it and landed it, it hurt everyone who watched it.

Overhand Right: Rocky Marciano's 'Suzy Q' - The one he landed on Joe Walcott might be the hardest anyone has EVER hit someone

[landmine950]

To Lyle re klitsckos jab vs Larry Holmes..
yes.....its just you....



But seriously.... both klits have good strong straight jabs due to thier style and excellent schooling. Tall strong and long armed.
BUT! Larrys jab was like a 2x4 coming at you end on. it really fuckin hurt. ( wil i be banned AGaiN for swearing?)

What about a punch breakdown ie best left hook right cross etc?

[CutMeMick]

To Lyle re klitsckos jab vs Larry Holmes..
yes.....its just you....



But seriously.... both klits have good strong straight jabs due to thier style and excellent schooling. Tall strong and long armed.
BUT! Larrys jab was like a 2x4 coming at you end on. it really fuckin hurt. ( wil i be banned AGaiN for swearing?)

What about a punch breakdown ie best left hook right cross etc?

landmines answer:

Nikolay Valuev

[ICB]

Design the best Heavyweight built from others have to have been world champions to qualify

Mind - Muhammad Ali
Chin - Oliver McCall
Speed - Mike Tyson
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Vitali Klitschko
Heart - Evander Holyfield

Worst

Mind - Oliver McCall
Chin - Wladimir Klischko
Speed - Nikolay Valuev
Jab - George Foreman
Power - Leon Spinks
Heart - Sonny Liston

Foreman's jab the weakest ?? you have to be kidding me ?? Foreman had very good jab in his 2nd career.

Anyway heres my list.

Longevity = Joe Louis
Jab = Larry Holmes
Footwork = Muhammad Ali
Combinations = Mike Tyson
Speed = Floyd Patterson
Power = Earnie Shavers
Heart = Evander Holyfield
Chin = George Foreman In His 2nd Career

But IMO you just need Mike Tyson with Rocky Marciano's heart.
Or Muhammad Ali with Earnie Shavers Power.

And you have two complete Heavyweights.

[Trainer Monkey]

Design the best Heavyweight built from others have to have been world champions to qualify

Mind - Muhammad Ali
Chin - Oliver McCall
Speed - Mike Tyson
Jab - Larry Holmes
Power - Vitali Klitschko
Heart - Evander Holyfield

Worst

Mind - Oliver McCall
Chin - Wladimir Klischko
Speed - Nikolay Valuev
Jab - George Foreman
Power - Leon Spinks
Heart - Sonny Liston

Foreman's jab the weakest ?? you have to be kidding me ?? Foreman had very good jab in his 2nd career.

Anyway heres my list.

Longevity = Joe Louis
Jab = Larry Holmes
Footwork = Muhammad Ali
Combinations = Mike Tyson
Hand speed = Floyd Patterson
Power = Earnie Shavers
Heart = Evander Holyfield
Chin = George Foreman In His 2nd Career

But IMO you just need Mike Tyson with Rocky Marciano's heart.
Or Muhammad Ali with Earnie Shavers Power.

And you have two complete Heavyweights.

Not a bad list,Id add
Head movement=Joe Frazier
Setting Up=Johnson

[boozeboxer]

Thanks ICB for using Shavers in your list, I mentioned him earlier in the post.

[Kid blackie]

left jab of larry holmes
right hand power of earnie shavers
left hook of joe frazier
counter punching of michael dokes
uppercut of mike tyson
ring strategy of gene tunny
footwork of muhammad ali
body punching of bob fitzsimmons
raw power of sonny liston
aggression of rocky marciano
stamina of ken norton
chin george chavalo
defensive skills of jack johnson
physique of mike weaver
hand speed of floyd patterson
close quarter work of jack dempsey
determination of evander holyfield