Great Fighters Who Struggled Against Fighters ............

[ICB]

What great fighters struggled against fighters that shouldn't of troubled them on paper.

Mike Weaver vs Larry Holmes
Jim McDonnell vs Azumah Nelson
Doug Jones vs Muhammad Ali
Tony Tubbs vs Riddick Bowe
Jimmy Young vs George Foreman
Junior Jones vs Marco Antonio Barrera
Scott LeDoux vs Ken Norton
Dave Tiberi vs James Toney
James Tillis vs Mike Tyson
Ray Close vs Chris Eubank
Thulani Malinga vs Nigel Benn
Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran
Kevin Howard vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry

Theres few to get us started.

[Fenster]

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

[ICB]

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

Im not saying they couldn't but i meant on paper "before" the fights that most people didn't think they would trouble them on paper.

[Fenster]

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

Im not saying they couldn't but i meant on paper "before" the fights that most people didn't think they would them on paper.

Yeah I know what you mean.

But the difference is -

Ray Close vs Chris Eubank = surprise cause Close was average at best

Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry is different. Although a massive upset Honeyghan was world class.

[ICB]

That list is a bit inconsistent.

Although underdogs, some of the guys you mentioned were good enough to give ANYONE a decent fight in their pomp.

Im not saying they couldn't but i meant on paper "before" the fights that most people didn't think they would them on paper.

Yeah I know what you mean.

But the difference is -

Ray Close vs Chris Eubank = surprise cause Close was average at best

Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry is different. Although a massive upset Honeyghan was world class.

I understand what your saying but remember no one knew Honeyghan was world class before the fight, and since Curry was P4P number 1. I assume most boxing fans wouldn't of gave Honeyghan a chance, but point taken i know what your saying.

[Dark Lord Al]

Hearns v Mark Medal
Hearns v James Kinchen
Hearns v Iran Barkley
Hearns v Doug Dewitt

Tyson v Douglas
Ali v Norton
Loyd Honeyghan v Jorge Vaca
Foreman v Tommy Morrison
Ray Mercer v Jesse Fergerson
a few more

[southakron314]

What great fighters struggled against fighters that shouldn't of troubled them on paper.

Mike Weaver vs Larry Holmes
Jim McDonnell vs Azumah Nelson
Doug Jones vs Muhammad Ali
Tony Tubbs vs Riddick Bowe
Jimmy Young vs George Foreman
Junior Jones vs Marco Antonio Barrera
Scott LeDoux vs Ken Norton
Dave Tiberi vs James Toney
James Tillis vs Mike Tyson
Ray Close vs Chris Eubank
Thulani Malinga vs Nigel Benn
Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran
Kevin Howard vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Lloyd Honeyghan vs Donald Curry

Theres few to get us started.

I wouuld throw Jake a Matta and Ray Robinson in there. This was the golden days version of Gatti and Ward.

[OumaFan]

Pernell probably shouldn't have had as much trouble with Hurtado as he did. That's a bit borderline though cause Hurtado gave Tszyu some problems and Pea was getting a bit up there. Although I thought he beat Oscar next time out.

Gyrokai.....really?

[BIG H]

MAB V Junior Jones
Forest v Mayorga

[THE THIRD MAN]

Pernell probably shouldn't have had as much trouble with Hurtado as he did. That's a bit borderline though cause Hurtado gave Tszyu some problems and Pea was getting a bit up there. Although I thought he beat Oscar next time out.

Gyrokai.....really?

Hurtado was a better than average fighter with a big punch, i'm not surprised he gave those guys trouble. Hurtado in another era would have been a champion but he fought at 140-147 at a time when those divisions were loaded with talent.

[ICB]

Pernell probably shouldn't have had as much trouble with Hurtado as he did. That's a bit borderline though cause Hurtado gave Tszyu some problems and Pea was getting a bit up there. Although I thought he beat Oscar next time out.

Gyrokai.....really?

Well Hurtado was hard to deal with and his awkward style canceled out Whitaker's unorthodox style. Lets remember though Whitaker was a fading force by then. The 2 knockdowns Hurtado scored over Whitaker were flash knockdowns, people make out Hurtado was dominating Whitaker when thats not the case, Whitaker come on strong and it was very razor thin close. Lederman had the fight even, and Merchant had Whitaker 1 point up. But i tell you what the finish was brutal.

[OumaFan]

Pernell probably shouldn't have had as much trouble with Hurtado as he did. That's a bit borderline though cause Hurtado gave Tszyu some problems and Pea was getting a bit up there. Although I thought he beat Oscar next time out.

Gyrokai.....really?

Well Hurtado was hard to deal with and his awkward style canceled out Whitaker's unorthodox style. Lets remember though Whitaker was a fading force by then. The 2 knockdowns Hurtado scored over Whitaker were flash knockdowns, people make out Hurtado was dominating Whitaker when thats not the case, Whitaker come on strong and it was very razor thin close. Lederman had the fight even, and Merchant had Whitaker 1 point up. But i tell you what the finish was brutal.

I don't think Hurtado was dominating by any means but he did pretty well. And Whitaker was past his best but look at what he did next time out against ODLH. The Whitaker of the Hurtado fight definitely wasn't the Whitaker of the Tito fight.