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    Default The Fraud that is Oscar De La Hoya

    Here's an article that should give eveyone a lot to talk about, so I thought that I would post it.

    Let the debating begin.

    Okay, I edited this to state, so that there is no misunderstanding, I do not agree with this article at all, I am just posting it for discussion purposes only.

    BOXING BUDDY: The FRAUD That Is Oscar De La Hoya | Bleacher Report
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    Default Re: The Fraud that is Oscar De La Hoya

    No offense to you Diane although I don't think you'll take any.

    What a garbage article written by somebody who clearly has no idea what the hell he's talking about. First off, I'm almost 99% sure that Julio Cesar Chavez wasn't called the Baby Faced Assassin. I might be wrong on that but in all the Chavez fights I've watched I've never heard him called that.

    I wanted to stop reading after the first fight he mentioned. Anybody who criticizes De La Hoya's early competition is a fool. I don't care if Jeff Mayweather was a strawweight before he fought De La Hoya, very few fighters have ever had the type of competition De La Hoya did in his first 20 or so fights. I think the precedent for that is Pete Rademacher and that didn't turn out so well for him. The fact is the best boxers of all time beat up on dishwashers and cab drivers to start their career. De La Hoya was fighting world champions that is something you can not possible discredit. Any attempt to do so is, for lack of a better word, retarded. That's the only way I can describe it.

    So the first 6 should never have been published end of. Even if it's a blog it's disappointing to read that someone (himself) actually believes these things he's saying.

    On to number 7, what more needs to be said? He's slamming Oscar's stellar 21-0 record calling all his opponents, a good portion being world champions, while praising JCC's record which was notoriously padded with bums. Not discounting JCC at all but that's the truth. I've never seen his fight with Miguel Angel Gonzalez though I doubt this chump has either. Why he put the win over parentheses is beyond me but again that's the intellect we're dealing with here.

    Number 9, oh boy. Well first off if this hater had seen the fight then surely he would have latched on to the fact that it was an older Whitaker who gave De La Hoya a close fight and he would have hammered that down. But obviously he didn't see the fight, only the scorecards and the tale of the tape so he chose to focus on that. What more is there to say? Anyone who thinks Whitaker didn't belong in the ring with De La Hoya doesn't need to be blogging about a Toughman contest much less this fight.

    The last one, the Camacho fight is a footnote it's not a legacy defining fight. The only reason it dragged to decision was because Camacho was about as dirty as one could be, constantly holding and even picking Oscar up and slamming him on his head.

    Enough of that, hopefully no one actually agrees with that dope. It's one thing to criticize De La Hoya, it's another thing to criticize him COMPLETELY WRONG. I mean really how off the mark could one guy be? I think my blood pressure just rose a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    No offense to you Diane although I don't think you'll take any.

    I didn't say that I agreed with it!!!!

    I don't agree with it, and I think it's a bunch of crap!! I think this guy is smoking a little too much.

    I just posted it to get some discussion going, which seems to be happening.

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    These are all the best fighters ODLH fought.

    Jorge Paez
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Julio Cesar Chavez x2
    Ike Quartey
    Ricardo Mayorga
    Bernard Hopkins
    Shane Mosley x2
    Pernell Whitaker
    Felix Sturm
    John John Molina
    Rafael Ruelas
    Gernaro Hernandez
    Jesse James Leija
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Oba Carr
    Felix Trinidad
    Arturo Gatti
    Fernando Vargas
    Yori Boy Campas
    Hector Camacho
    Wilfredo Rivera

    And all these fighters are mixture from 6 weight classes, how anyone can hate on ODLH's opposition is beyond me. He stepped up very quick in class, anybody who says different is just plain stupid or doesn't have a clue about ODLH. Also i would like to ask that same person who wrote that article who else could he have fought except for Winky Wright ?? a poorly written article and thats a plain and simple hater right there.
    Last edited by ICB; 05-20-2008 at 02:17 AM.

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    Default Re: The Fraud that is Oscar De La Hoya

    What discussion exactly, were you hoping that this article would lead to? Whether the nutjob who wrote it is kidding or not?

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    Strictly with focus on Jeff Schimmel..........I think the fraud is himself that proports to be a Boxing Historian . I would venture and dare to bet that this clown has not sat through many of those fights he rants against..........And Highlights on U-Tube don't count.

    I was never a Delahoya fan and his Ivory Tower mentality.....but as a fighter he was extremely solid and Save for Bredahl fight,I thought that was a softy but Bredahl actually gave Oscar alot of different looks and speed before Oscar caught up to him.... at the time all were more than credible.This guy put's Way to much focus on size as opposed to calibur and ability of those mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    These are all the best fighters ODLH fought.

    Jorge Paez
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Julio Cesar Chavez x2
    Ike Quartey
    Ricardo Mayorga
    Bernard Hopkins
    Shane Mosley x2
    Pernell Whitaker
    Felix Sturm
    John John Molina
    Rafael Ruelas
    Gernaro Hernandez
    Jesse James Leija
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Oba Carr
    Felix Trinidad
    Arturo Gatti
    Fernando Vargas
    Yori Boy Campas
    Hector Camacho
    Wilfredo Rivera

    And all these fighters are mixture from 6 weight classes, how anyone can hate on ODLH's opposition is beyond me. He stepped up very quick in class, anybody who says different is just plain stupid or doesn't have a clue about ODLH. Also i would like to ask that same person who wrote that article who else could he have fought except for Winky Wright ?? a poorly written article and thats a plain and simple hater right there.
    His resume is unquestionable, as for who he could have fought except for Winky? Tszyu comes to mind. Both were at 140 in 1996. Nothing should have stopped them fighting and as for the tired excuse that Tszyu lost to Phillips may i remind everyone DLH fought Whitaker at 147 in April 97' one month before the Tszyu V Phillips fight at 140 in May 97', they should have fought in 1996.

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    Default Re: The Fraud that is Oscar De La Hoya

    That article's a joke! This idiot seems to be basing Hoya's height as to why he won his fights. Wow! Maybe that's why LLewis won just about all of his fights.

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    Poorly written and biass artice. This guy pick apart some of his fights from early in his career and fails to even mention the biggest fights of his career. top ten career inflating fights? ok pal. That was absolute garbage imo and im sure most would agree.
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    Default Re: The Fraud that is Oscar De La Hoya

    One of the worst articles I ever read.

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