The LINEAL welterweight championship

[Tito BHB]

So this is a topic that just struck me as interesting.. And is somewhat down to judgement..

Im actually suprised how far into it i remember but this is how the REAL champion of the welterweights has gone over time..

Tito
Oscar
Sugar shane
Forrest
Mayorga
Spinks
Zab

(This is where it gets interesting.. Aka disputed instead of undisputed.Lol )

Then baldomir beats zab to become lineal.. Zab keeps one title and fights on against floyd..

Floyd beats zab.. Not the real title..

But floyd also beats Baldomir.. which IS the lineal title..

So this makes floyd the reigning and defending champ at welter.. Allegedly..

But honestly.. The records of titles and the men who beat the men etc tells you that floyd is the champ..

But to me.. Miguel cotto is the champ..

He has fought

Originally for the vacant wba - Carlos Quintana ( Who went on to win a legit title against paul williams and this further validates miguel cotto's destruction of a great fighter/ World class fighter in Quintana

Mandatory.. Everyone fights em.. Veteran urkal.. Stoppage win.. As expected..

Zab judah.. Hard hitter.. Exciting fight. good match making.. Former undisputed champ..

Shane mosely.. Legend, Former lineal champ.. Still on form good fight.

Gomez - Solid, classy contender status sort of fighter.. Made to look an amatuer and outclassed completely..

Next - Antonio margarito two time welterweight champion.. beast of a fighter.. More great match making..

and furthermore the winner of this fight pretty much has to be considered the lineal champ the true champ at welterweight..

The lineal champs dont fight once a year.. Which adds further question to what the wbc is all about unless they have a high profile star holding theyr titles and paying theyr sanctioning fees.. Aka floyd, aka oscar, aka seeking a bigger money fight vitali comeback.. Its the money..

And its quite possible that because of this a lineal champ, the man who beat the man will be surpassed, stripped by the public of bieng the real champ.. because of inactivity on his part and great activity by miguel cotto.

i dont even think i can remember this happening in the past..

Thoughts anyone?

[Macho]

Was interesting Tito BHB , in show all this trayectory and i agree with you bro...........Cotto is the Champion in WW Div..........

[killersheep]

That was a good read. whomever wins between Cotto and Margarito should be consider the Champ at 147. Floyd would still be considered p4p #1 IMO but really has no claim anymore at 147.

[HattonTheHammer]

floyd for me

he beat the man who beat the man

deserves to be recognised as the true champ

[CutMeMick]

Spinks > Judah > Baldomir > PBF.....

[Galaxy]

The answer is not simply to recognize a different guy as the champion. To do so would be to invite chaos, which is precisely what we have today.


Just because you think Cotto should be champ doesn't automatically make him one!

Championships should be won & lost in the ring, its as simple as that & if you don't agree with that your part of the problem with the game today.

Ali was recognize by the Ring the whole time he was on his forced hiatus up until he announced his retirement then Frazier won the vacant championship.

Now Floyd hasn't been inactive as long as nearly 4 years & he is scheduled to fight in September. Some champions only defended their championships a few times in many years but they were always considered the champ!

[Puya]

That was a good read. whomever wins between Cotto and Margarito should be consider the Champ at 147. Floyd would still be considered p4p #1 IMO but really has no claim anymore at 147.

Just for the benefit of doubt I still give Floyd the The LINEAL welterweight championship Title.

But if he decides not to fight the winnner of Cotto vs MArgarito and pull the same bullshit he did when Cotto beats Mosley.

In my eyes and many as well will no longer see Floyd as the Top WW and will be ignore untill he retires or fights a true WW in his Prime in the Top 5.