Would Ricardo Torres KO Ricky Hatton ??

[ICB]

I've always thought Torres would give Hatton a very good fight and could KO him especially with Hatton's leaky defense and Torres power, but now this match up is looking worse and worse for Hatton IMO. Getting wobbled by naturally smaller Lazcano and looking like a shot fighter whats your thoughts on this ??

[leftylee]

I don't think so. I mean you need to see the fight yourself mate to see whether you think Hatton's shot but IMO he ain't shot.

[gyrokai]

I don't think so. I mean you need to see the fight yourself mate to see whether you think Hatton's shot but IMO he ain't shot.

Hatton isn't shot, he's just not performing the way he was Pre-Kostya Tszyu. Carlos Maussa was a great performance too. But Hatton shouldn't be having trouble with Juan Lazcano, the 15 month retired lightweight. Hatton isn't "shot," but he's certainly fallen from the man he used to be.

[HattonTheHammer]

I don't think so. I mean you need to see the fight yourself mate to see whether you think Hatton's shot but IMO he ain't shot.

Hatton isn't shot, he's just not performing the way he was Pre-Kostya Tszyu. Carlos Maussa was a great performance too. But Hatton shouldn't be having trouble with Juan Lazcano, the 15 month retired lightweight. Hatton isn't "shot," but he's certainly fallen from the man he used to be.

its to be expected

fighting with his style has endless limitations, its quite acheivable at 25-26 but come your early 30s you will naturally lose that ability to fight on the inside for 36 constant minutes.

Everyone keeps using the tszyu fight as hattons benchmark. That particular fight worked well for ricky because the 2 styles were so similar and it was rickys age and aggression that got him through that night against probably a much better technical exponent that lady time caught up with.

[gyrokai]

I don't think so. I mean you need to see the fight yourself mate to see whether you think Hatton's shot but IMO he ain't shot.

Hatton isn't shot, he's just not performing the way he was Pre-Kostya Tszyu. Carlos Maussa was a great performance too. But Hatton shouldn't be having trouble with Juan Lazcano, the 15 month retired lightweight. Hatton isn't "shot," but he's certainly fallen from the man he used to be.

its to be expected

fighting with his style has endless limitations, its quite acheivable at 25-26 but come your early 30s you will naturally lose that ability to fight on the inside for 36 constant minutes.

Everyone keeps using the tszyu fight as hattons benchmark. That particular fight worked well for ricky because the 2 styles were so similar and it was rickys age and aggression that got him through that night against probably a much better technical exponent that lady time caught up with.

I don't follow that range of thought.

Hatton's young. He gets tired TOO easy. It's not like he's a Frazier, who had HELL fights, before you could see that he aged. Hell, Frazier could fight when he was 30. Hatton has had stamina problems years ago, heh, which is pretty pathetic. Even by the standards of today, when fighters ONLY fight at most twice a year. Hatton just barely started sparring, so the sparring hasn't aged him. And his fights were busy in the past, but they weren't wear and tear fights. They weren't wars at all. This is even before the Floyd KO, he's been struggling with stamina, even before Collazo he didn't have a "war" type fight.

Who knows, maybe Hatton's taking drugs. heh

[Violent Demise]

He has the power to do it. But he might not get the chance. Torres has a very difficult fight with Holt coming up. I had Holt ahead before he got stopped in there first fight. I can see Holt winning the rematch

[ICB]

He has the power to do it. But he might not get the chance. Torres has a very difficult fight with Holt coming up. I had Holt ahead before he got stopped in there first fight. I can see Holt winning the rematch

Yea i agree with that i don't fancy his chances against Holt either in a rematch, but in a way im hoping Torres wins because i think Hatton vs Torres is one of the most entertaining fights to be made at 140, and Torres is the only real Jr Welterweight that can bang he has the kind of power that can turn a fight around with 1 punch. I've always said this even before Lazcano fight that Torres vs Hatton needs to be made.

[Violent Demise]

I think Victor Ortiz will be running the 140 division by the middle of next year

[ICB]

I think Victor Ortiz will be running the 140 division by the middle of next year

I think Devon Alexander could be up there as well i for certain see him winning a belt very soon.

[leftylee]

I think Victor Ortiz will be running the 140 division by the middle of next year

I think Tim Bradley will do well also, I was very impressed with him.

[Violent Demise]

I think Victor Ortiz will be running the 140 division by the middle of next year

I think Tim Bradley will do well also, I was very impressed with him.

I wasn't. I think he looked like crap. Good thing for him Witter was bigger crap

[ICB]

I think Victor Ortiz will be running the 140 division by the middle of next year

I think Tim Bradley will do well also, I was very impressed with him.

I didn't think Bradley was that good to be honest i think Witter was just so poor. Bradley is a tough durable fighter but not much else he is very limited im not sold on him at all yet, but maybe he can do well considering how weak 140 pound division is at the moment.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I've always thought Torres would give Hatton a very good fight and could KO him especially with Hatton's leaky defense and Torres power, but now this match up is looking worse and worse for Hatton IMO. Getting wobbled by naturally smaller Lazcano and looking like a shot fighter whats your thoughts on this ??

I don't think he looked shot.

His timming was good, he got off pretty much at will, and he kept a good solid pace for 12 rounds. The only thing (as he pointed out quite humourously between rounds 11 and 12) was that he got caught when he gambled. In other words he was looking to end matters and kept walking on to shots.

That shit used to happen in his earlier fights, albeit against softer foe.

He'd better tighten up against Torres, although it'd be enough just to pick he's shots a little more.




*EDIT*

Oh and Tim Bradley is very decent. In no way limited IMO. He'd have little problem with Torres or that fag Paulie.

[the wiz]

I would say so, Torres is one hell of a fighter. His one loss was almost a KO of Cotto, granted I thought Holt got shafted looking forward for that rematch. But 140 actually has some talent, Holt, Torres, and Ortiz. I agree with VD that Victor Ortiz will prob be rulling this division very soon.

[SaltyBacon]

yes if lazcono coming off 15 month layoff can hurt him

torres can put him on a sretcher