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    Default Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    I just want people's opinions on who Wlad would beat or would be beaten by out of the guys Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, etc fought to earn their greatness for example:

    Donovan Rudduck
    Tommy Morrison
    Frank Bruno
    Mitch Green
    James Tillis
    James Smith
    David Tua
    Shannon Briggs
    Tony Tucker
    Hasim Rahman
    Michael Moorer
    Andrew Golota
    Michael Dokes
    Pinklon Thomas
    Michael Spinks
    Renoldo Snipes
    Tim Witherspoon
    Trevor Berbick

    I'm just curious to what everyone thinks

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I just want people's opinions on who Wlad would beat or would be beaten by out of the guys Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, etc fought to earn their greatness for example:

    Donovan Rudduck
    Tommy Morrison
    Frank Bruno
    Mitch Green
    James Tillis
    James Smith
    David Tua
    Shannon Briggs
    Tony Tucker
    Hasim Rahman
    Michael Moorer
    Andrew Golota
    Michael Dokes
    Pinklon Thomas
    Michael Spinks
    Renoldo Snipes
    Tim Witherspoon
    Trevor Berbick

    I'm just curious to what everyone thinks
    Of them I honestly think he would beat Berbick, Snipes, Maybe Pinklon and Dokes, Golota, Rahman, Maybe Tucker, Briggs, Tillis, Green, Bruno. The rest I think would have beaten Wlad In their heydays. Also i'm not the biggest Tyson fan by the way as barring a very old Larry Holmes every other LEGEND he fought beat him.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    He beats pretty much all of those guys

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    I would go with Ruddock,Bruno,Witherspoon,Briggs and perhaps Tua to beat him he beats the rest but i would give berbick,tucker,Golota and Morrison a chance.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    I know about Tyson....he did fight Spinks who was a great fighter but only at lightheavyweight.


    So the guys you have beating Wlad are: Rudduck, Morrison, Tua, Smith, Witherspoon, and Moorer.

    I see Wlad only having trouble with a prime Shannon Briggs because he was big he could take a punch and was active in the ring.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I know about Tyson....he did fight Spinks who was a great fighter but only at lightheavyweight.


    So the guys you have beating Wlad are: Rudduck, Morrison, Tua, Smith, Witherspoon, and Moorer.

    I see Wlad only having trouble with a prime Shannon Briggs because he was big he could take a punch and was active in the ring.
    Yeah I think he'd easily outbox Shannon though. Straightforward fight for Wlad. To me he would struggle with a smaller heavy thats always in his face.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I know about Tyson....he did fight Spinks who was a great fighter but only at lightheavyweight.


    So the guys you have beating Wlad are: Rudduck, Morrison, Tua, Smith, Witherspoon, and Moorer.

    I see Wlad only having trouble with a prime Shannon Briggs because he was big he could take a punch and was active in the ring.
    If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.
    Those guys that I mentioned are not considered GREAT fighters and the reason being is that they weren't consistent and could lose at any time.

    Tim Witherspoon was 15-0-0 when he squared off vs Holmes. Wlad has something Larry never did and that's punching power! Larry had a record of 42 (28 KO's)-0-0 when he fought Witherspoon. Tim never really fought vs the big time power punchers of his era....I guess Dokes counts but even then it's not on par with what Wlad brings.

    David Tua's worst enemy is a jab and movement and Wlad would make him look silly.

    Tommy Morrison could be outboxed and out gunned and his stamina was also in question.

    I don't think it's overrating Wlad to think that he could beat those fighters, I also want to say those type of guys are kind of what the division has right now.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.
    Those guys that I mentioned are not considered GREAT fighters and the reason being is that they weren't consistent and could lose at any time.

    Tim Witherspoon was 15-0-0 when he squared off vs Holmes. Wlad has something Larry never did and that's punching power! Larry had a record of 42 (28 KO's)-0-0 when he fought Witherspoon. Tim never really fought vs the big time power punchers of his era....I guess Dokes counts but even then it's not on par with what Wlad brings.

    David Tua's worst enemy is a jab and movement and Wlad would make him look silly.

    Tommy Morrison could be outboxed and out gunned and his stamina was also in question.

    I don't think it's overrating Wlad to think that he could beat those fighters, I also want to say those type of guys are kind of what the division has right now.
    Morrison's stamina was at least as good a Wlad's and his pace would have given Wlad fits.....Wlad has terrible movement or at least can't fight for long moving so trying to say that Wlad could expose Tua like LL did is just silly...Wlad would clearly win early then by the 6 or 7th round when he was exhausted and fighting flat footed he'd be wacked out by Tua...

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    If you are talking on their best form, I'm actually not sure Wlad would beat any of those guys cept for perhaps Smith, Rudduck or Moorer could be pick ems. No way Wlad would beat a prime Tua or even Morrison though imo, he just cant handle that can't of firepower, he's to rigid and limited. Honestly you overrate him so much it's hilarious. You actually think he would have beaten the Tim Witherspoon that fought LArry Holmes?? Your kidding me.
    Those guys that I mentioned are not considered GREAT fighters and the reason being is that they weren't consistent and could lose at any time.

    Tim Witherspoon was 15-0-0 when he squared off vs Holmes. Wlad has something Larry never did and that's punching power! Larry had a record of 42 (28 KO's)-0-0 when he fought Witherspoon. Tim never really fought vs the big time power punchers of his era....I guess Dokes counts but even then it's not on par with what Wlad brings.

    David Tua's worst enemy is a jab and movement and Wlad would make him look silly.

    Tommy Morrison could be outboxed and out gunned and his stamina was also in question.

    I don't think it's overrating Wlad to think that he could beat those fighters, I also want to say those type of guys are kind of what the division has right now.
    I disagree Larry Holmes during his championship reign had 14 stoppage wins out of his 20 title defenses and had 7 straight stoppage wins which is the record tied with Joe Louis i don't know why you think Larry Holmes had no punching power but its wrong.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    I think Tommy Morrison would have beat him out of shear determination, If the young Morrison fought on the inside of Klitschko jab he would rough him up. Klitschko does not handle pressure well. And Morrison presents a ass load of pressure. But if he chose to fight him like he did Lewis it could be an early night for Wlad.

    With that being said, I say Morrison catches early and would not let him off the hook

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I just want people's opinions on who Wlad would beat or would be beaten by out of the guys Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, etc fought to earn their greatness for example:

    Donovan Rudduck
    Tommy Morrison
    Frank Bruno
    Mitch Green
    James Tillis
    James Smith
    David Tua
    Shannon Briggs
    Tony Tucker
    Hasim Rahman
    Michael Moorer
    Andrew Golota
    Michael Dokes
    Pinklon Thomas
    Michael Spinks
    Renoldo Snipes
    Tim Witherspoon
    Trevor Berbick

    I'm just curious to what everyone thinks
    Donovan Rudduck Wladimir loses by KO
    Tommy Morrison Wladimir wins by TKO
    Frank Bruno Wladimir loses by KO
    Mitch Green Wladimir wins by KO
    James Tillis Wladimir wins by KO
    James Smith Wladimir loses by KO
    David Tua Wladimir wins by UD
    Shannon Briggs Wladimir wins by KO
    Tony Tucker Wladimir loses by TKO
    Hasim Rahman Wladimir wins by TKO
    Michael Moorer Wladimir loses by KO
    Andrew Golota Wladimir loses by TKO
    Michael Dokes Wladimir wins by KO
    Pinklon Thomas Wladimir wins by KO
    Michael Spinks Wladimir wins by KO
    Renoldo Snipes Wladimir wins by TKO
    Tim Witherspoon Wladimir loses by KO
    Trevor Berbick Wladimir wins by KO

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    I'll take a crack at it, Lyle.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I just want people's opinions on who Wlad would beat or would be beaten by out of the guys Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, etc fought to earn their greatness for example:

    Donovan Rudduck (Vlad loses by KO)
    Tommy Morrison (Vlad loses)
    Frank Bruno (Vlad wins)
    Mitch Green (Vlad wins)
    James Tillis (Vlad wins)
    James Smith (Vlad wins)
    David Tua (Vlad loses by KO)
    Shannon Briggs (undecided)
    Tony Tucker (Vlad wins)
    Hasim Rahman (depends which Rock shows up)
    Michael Moorer (Vlad wins)
    Andrew Golota (depends which Golota shows up)
    Michael Dokes (Vlad wins)
    Pinklon Thomas (Vlad wins)
    Michael Spinks (Vlad wins)
    Renoldo Snipes (Vlad wins by KO)
    Tim Witherspoon (Vlad loses decision)
    Trevor Berbick (Vlad wins)

    I'm just curious to what everyone thinks

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I'll take a crack at it, Lyle.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I just want people's opinions on who Wlad would beat or would be beaten by out of the guys Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, etc fought to earn their greatness for example:

    Donovan Rudduck (Vlad loses by KO)
    Tommy Morrison (Vlad loses)
    Frank Bruno (Vlad wins)
    Mitch Green (Vlad wins)
    James Tillis (Vlad wins)
    James Smith (Vlad wins)
    David Tua (Vlad loses by KO)
    Shannon Briggs (undecided)
    Tony Tucker (Vlad wins)
    Hasim Rahman (depends which Rock shows up)
    Michael Moorer (Vlad wins)
    Andrew Golota (depends which Golota shows up)
    Michael Dokes (Vlad wins)
    Pinklon Thomas (Vlad wins)
    Michael Spinks (Vlad wins)
    Renoldo Snipes (Vlad wins by KO)
    Tim Witherspoon (Vlad loses decision)
    Trevor Berbick (Vlad wins)

    I'm just curious to what everyone thinks
    I like that list. Except Briggs loses by big fat asthma douche. And claims he just fought like a warrior and is the baddest man around...
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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko vs who everyone else fought

    I'm not shocked about people picking Bruno or Morrison to beat Wlad but Rudduck

    Those guys couldn't really box...Morrison did but vs a very slow George Foreman, Wlad is athletic and his jab is pretty damn good.

    From how Wlad has been beaten before you either have to be able to sneak a punch in there and nail him and never let up or you have to take a beating and withstand until Wlad gets tired and those times are coming fewer and fewer as Wlad is fighting smarter. The guys who could do that are: Tua, Morrison, and Rahman. Tua has never been KO'd, Morrison fought with heart and could take a beating, and Rahman could sneak a big punch in, he did it to Lewis.

    I don't see why people pick Bruno to win but I understand why they would like him to win, because he's the only true British heavyweight that was any good from the last couple of years....Lennox was Canadian/Jamaican/British so he wasn't 100% British the way Bruno was

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