Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Results 1 to 15 of 17

Thread: Newbie needs help

Share/Bookmark

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    17
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Newbie needs help

    Hi Guys.

    Just wanted to ask the audience their opinion on my first boxing sparring session.

    I've been going to a boxing gym for about a couple of months and was real keen to get into the sparring side of things. I don't want to compete I just want to spar for the sake of sparring. The classes that we do really focuses on fitness and not on technique. I've done kickboxing for 6 months prior to boxing but have been out for 2 years as I wrecked my knee and had just started gentle sparring with the kickboxing.

    The trainer after me pestering him said that I could do light sparring and put me up against a dude that was about 5 inches taller than me and at least 15kgs (I'm 75kg) more. Being my first time I obviously got my butt served to me.

    Now I can handle the fact that I got owned and I can handle that for a long time I'm going to get owned until I improve. What hurt was that after the three rounds he straight up told me that I wasn't ready for heavy sparring (who said I wanted to do heavy sparring?) and said nothing more. I left the ring not sure what to do next and felt real embarresed and ashamed of myself. I just went and punched the bags for a little while, ran up and down the stairs and then when I realised that was it for me I just joined back in with the class that was going.

    After the class i went up to him and asked if he just states the obvious and nothing else happens and he then took me to a guy that has more experience than me but is my build and I will be sparring with him for four rounds next week.

    I suppose I don't really have a specific question but is this guy not a good trainer. Surely if a beginner wants to start sparring you would be encouraged by finding out what you need to work on and develop some kind of plan rather than just say I wasn't ready. It really annoyed me and I felt like a chump.

    Your thoughts?

    Thanks

    Andy

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,786
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    3627
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Quote Originally Posted by DickDangleberry View Post
    Hi Guys.

    Just wanted to ask the audience their opinion on my first boxing sparring session.

    I've been going to a boxing gym for about a couple of months and was real keen to get into the sparring side of things. I don't want to compete I just want to spar for the sake of sparring. The classes that we do really focuses on fitness and not on technique. I've done kickboxing for 6 months prior to boxing but have been out for 2 years as I wrecked my knee and had just started gentle sparring with the kickboxing.

    The trainer after me pestering him said that I could do light sparring and put me up against a dude that was about 5 inches taller than me and at least 15kgs (I'm 75kg) more. Being my first time I obviously got my butt served to me.

    Now I can handle the fact that I got owned and I can handle that for a long time I'm going to get owned until I improve. What hurt was that after the three rounds he straight up told me that I wasn't ready for heavy sparring (who said I wanted to do heavy sparring?) and said nothing more. I left the ring not sure what to do next and felt real embarresed and ashamed of myself. I just went and punched the bags for a little while, ran up and down the stairs and then when I realised that was it for me I just joined back in with the class that was going.

    After the class i went up to him and asked if he just states the obvious and nothing else happens and he then took me to a guy that has more experience than me but is my build and I will be sparring with him for four rounds next week.

    I suppose I don't really have a specific question but is this guy not a good trainer. Surely if a beginner wants to start sparring you would be encouraged by finding out what you need to work on and develop some kind of plan rather than just say I wasn't ready. It really annoyed me and I felt like a chump.

    Your thoughts?

    Thanks

    Andy
    Honestly? He might be a bit of knob. But then again, if maybe he thought you weren't ready for sparring, and you pestered him into it...maybe he is giving ya a lesson.

    I know my coach is all about lessons, and they usually hurt. If someone is getting lazy and not working, or goofing off...guess where they are going. Into the ring to spar. I've often been the guy who he uses as the beatstick. It used to bother me quite a bit, so I made a point of talking to him about it. Was starting to get hated on for it.

    But yea...different coaches work differently. On the bright side, you DID want sparring, right?
    Last edited by Youngblood; 07-31-2008 at 10:51 PM.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,786
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    3627
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Oh and also...don't sweat the embarrassment part. Everyone gets owned. I don't care who ya are. This can be a humbling sport. I do pretty well for myself, but have left the club on many occasions thinking 'geebus fuk...what the hell?'' after getting owned

    It gets better if ya stick to it.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    7,495
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2701
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Love your name . Probably the guy will move you round without to much contact if thats so youve found yourself a good gym and coach. If you get Battered look somewhere else, Be Lucky.
    Pain lasts a only a minute, but the memory will last forever....

    boxingbournemouth - Cornelius Carrs private boxing tuition and personal fitness training

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    10 miles from Manchester, 6 miles from Bolton
    Posts
    1,560
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1243
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Quote Originally Posted by DickDangleberry View Post
    Hi Guys.

    Just wanted to ask the audience their opinion on my first boxing sparring session.

    I've been going to a boxing gym for about a couple of months and was real keen to get into the sparring side of things. I don't want to compete I just want to spar for the sake of sparring. The classes that we do really focuses on fitness and not on technique. I've done kickboxing for 6 months prior to boxing but have been out for 2 years as I wrecked my knee and had just started gentle sparring with the kickboxing.

    The trainer after me pestering him said that I could do light sparring and put me up against a dude that was about 5 inches taller than me and at least 15kgs (I'm 75kg) more. Being my first time I obviously got my butt served to me.

    Now I can handle the fact that I got owned and I can handle that for a long time I'm going to get owned until I improve. What hurt was that after the three rounds he straight up told me that I wasn't ready for heavy sparring (who said I wanted to do heavy sparring?) and said nothing more. I left the ring not sure what to do next and felt real embarresed and ashamed of myself. I just went and punched the bags for a little while, ran up and down the stairs and then when I realised that was it for me I just joined back in with the class that was going.

    After the class i went up to him and asked if he just states the obvious and nothing else happens and he then took me to a guy that has more experience than me but is my build and I will be sparring with him for four rounds next week.

    I suppose I don't really have a specific question but is this guy not a good trainer. Surely if a beginner wants to start sparring you would be encouraged by finding out what you need to work on and develop some kind of plan rather than just say I wasn't ready. It really annoyed me and I felt like a chump.

    Your thoughts?

    Thanks

    Andy
    Welcum to the site man, u will get gud advise here , keep up gud work

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    In my own little Universe
    Posts
    10,052
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2261
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Hello mate ..... all beginners always want to spar straight away. The trouble is that you need them to learn technique first, so that they apply proper technique and thus sparring is really technique traini9ng (ie not fighting)

    If you let beginners spar too much, a) their bad habits and flws become ingrained and they will carry them forver, rather than learning proper technique first and then utlising it and b) they get beaten up, which isn;t the point of sparring.

    Still, good luck - can't knock your keenness, but as with any art you need to learn your skills first so you carry them out properly and train your body to do them automatically.

    Additionally, lots of people join boxing gyms for all sorts of reasons and good trainers keep them on the outskirts of the sparring for a while to see if they have the dedication to keep turning up regardless.
    If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    17
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Thanks for the encouragement guys.

    I'm going today and will just keep at it and get my fitness up and see if I can find someone to practice technique with & me maybe do some focus pad work. If not I'll just do my time that I've paid for and move on. At least I'll be able to take the fitness that I've acquired with me.

    This is probably the first forum I've been on where nobody shoots each other down. It's weird. (stating the obvious sarcasm alert) It's like.......it's like you all have the same interest and want to help each other . I love going on Youtube or games sites and the person that posted before the person that posted is an idiot. It's hilarious.

    Thanks Again.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    11,799
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2276
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Andy,

    If your class focuses on fitness primarily, then you can't expect to be ready to spar with a schooled boxer, even of a similar age/weight/duration of training.
    In order to become effective you will need to get the "technical" training in.

    Technique first, conditioning is a supplement.
    091

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    17
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny View Post
    Andy,

    If your class focuses on fitness primarily, then you can't expect to be ready to spar with a schooled boxer, even of a similar age/weight/duration of training.
    In order to become effective you will need to get the "technical" training in.

    Technique first, conditioning is a supplement.
    I had a word with the guy who is going to be sparring with me tomorrow and I made it quite clear that I want to go slow and to stop me if I'm just a target for him to give me technique. He said that we would try some Cuban Sparring or something like that. Has anyone heard of it. i looked on google but it just brought up articles on cuban fighters.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Georgia
    Posts
    6,454
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1623
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Hello mate ..... all beginners always want to spar straight away. The trouble is that you need them to learn technique first, so that they apply proper technique and thus sparring is really technique traini9ng (ie not fighting)

    If you let beginners spar too much, a) their bad habits and flws become ingrained and they will carry them forver, rather than learning proper technique first and then utlising it and b) they get beaten up, which isn;t the point of sparring.

    Still, good luck - can't knock your keenness, but as with any art you need to learn your skills first so you carry them out properly and train your body to do them automatically.

    Additionally, lots of people join boxing gyms for all sorts of reasons and good trainers keep them on the outskirts of the sparring for a while to see if they have the dedication to keep turning up regardless.
    As a beginner, that'd be the LAST thing I'd want to do. It would be what I'd dread most, until I got a lot better.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    17
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Hey guys.

    Just want to say thanks for the encouragement.

    Did the sparring with the guy on Thursday and we worked up from real gentle games to light sparring. It's amazing how much effort it takes to get someone into a corner both physically and mentally (it was one of the games we played).

    I've met a couple of the guys that do spar and have been giving me tips so I'll keep on working with those guys and see where it goes from there.

    I just think the trainers a dick which is fine as I can learn from people that are willing to pass on there advice to people that are keen rather than some douche that doesn't want his time wasted.

    Cheers

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    61
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    885
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Just tough love, he wants you to be successful really
    Consider this a test

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    1,664
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2035
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbara_pitts View Post
    no2max is privately owned and operated and is a successful leader in the production of private label nutritional supplements and vitamins. They offer a complete line of vitamins, herbs, sport nutrition, creams, powders, and liquid formulas. http://www.no2max.com]no2max extensive in stock product line allows customers to private label with a minimum of 60 units. no2max has the unique ability to get you dialed in and pumped up for every single workout by inducing the strongest and most advanced nitric oxide, creatine, and body-mind stimulating surge ever developed in a supplement. No other products can say that! No other products can do that!
    SPAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

    BANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    North East England
    Posts
    437
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    958
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Newbie needs help

    Good luck to you fella.

    Boxing strips you right down to the basics and there is no where to hide. There's no shame in being exposed in sparring by a more experienced fighter - learning how to deal with those feelings is actually a positive thing - although it doesn't like it at the time .

    Sounds like you took your lumps and came back so good on you - but don't let anyone take advantage - you won't learn anything if more experienced guys are beating on you every session - all you'll get is a nose that lloks like it's trying to escape from your face
    'To speak with his equal and irish man is forced to talk with God...'

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. I'm a newbie!
    By ElTemible in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 10-29-2007, 04:24 PM
  2. Newbie here...
    By sheng in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-03-2006, 06:50 PM
  3. newbie glove question
    By speed e in forum Ask the Trainer
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-19-2006, 03:56 AM
  4. Newbie Questions *Alot*
    By Coreano in forum Ask the Trainer
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 08-14-2006, 07:28 AM
  5. newbie what bag to get/ punching basics
    By spedridr in forum Ask the Trainer
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 07-21-2005, 04:20 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing