if floyd were around during the 80s...

[canary]

would he be a p4p king?

[Thread Stealer]

Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.

At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.

At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.

At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.

[Trainer Monkey]

Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.

At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.

At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.

At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.

Camacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decision
Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game

[Thread Stealer]

Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.

At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.

At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.

At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.

Camacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decision
Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game

I thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.

Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.

[Trainer Monkey]

Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.

At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.

At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.

At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.

Camacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decision
Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game

I thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.

Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.

I think Floyd has better backword footwork then Rosario,he suckered Manfreddy constantlyId bet Macho falls for that,and when he gets flustered when he cant work a guy out
Pryor had evil power at that weight,I think if Floyd tasted it,he'd be worrying

[bertolacylee]

Camacho flustered easily,I see him just leading him around the ring for a decision
Pryor hit so damned hard Id see that putting Floyd off his game

I thought Rosario beat Camacho and took him out of his game, but he was a sick puncher who made Camacho run like Forrest Gump. Mayweather is an accurate puncher, but not an especially powerful one, even at the lower weight classes.

Pryor's workrate, pressure, and whirlwind style would give Mayweather (and just about any jr. welter) problems. It's more the constant activity that would bother Mayweather IMO than the power. Pryor could punch but it wasn't like he had freakish power.

I think Floyd has better backword footwork then Rosario,he suckered Manfreddy constantlyId bet Macho falls for that,and when he gets flustered when he cant work a guy out
Pryor had evil power at that weight,I think if Floyd tasted it,he'd be worrying

DOnt get me wrong im no boxing historian, but i have seen my fair share of fights and a good amount of fighters. To me floyd is the smartest and most calm i have ever seen. he can make his opponenet do things that he do things that set up his own puncges and his denfense is definately the best ive ever seen. I have yet to see him get flustered or worryed. I have seen one or two of pryors fights so i dont really kno all that much about him but in my mind hed have to hit like ernie shavers to "worry" floyd.

[Taeth]

Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.

At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.

At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.

At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.

Mayweather would have beaten Chavez or Camacho, Camacho wasn't as good as PBF in any way, and Chavez didn't do well against moves.

I also see him beating Pryor because once against he is too quick, and too hard to hit.

I see Hearns giving Mayweather a lot of difficulties, but we don't know if Mayweather could handle Hearns' punch or not, if Mayweather can avoid Hearns' punches like he did against Oscar I see him winning, if he can't I see Hearns winning UD.
I think Hearns wins a 12 round fight, but Mayweather would win a 15 round fihgt against Hearns because of his great stamina and ability to fight so well late in a fight. I find Mayweather having an impossible time trying to out box Hearns from the outside, but I truly believe he would find a way to clsoe the gap, whether by going underneath Hearns' jab or using that right hand he used against Hatton. Regardless I think Floyd would fight a much more Pernell Whitaker type toe to toe fight with Hearns which basically how he fought Hearns, much less movement, standing there and relying on his speed and defensive skills.

I think Mayweather the hardest time with Duran or Leonard, Leonard can match Mayweather with speed, but he has the height advantage, but that would be a close fight with Leonard a favorite to many, and he has that great jab. The one thing I see Floyd being able to win is that those fast combinations would be useless against his defense, I think Leonard was easier to read in terms of what he was going to do, and Mayweather has the better defense. Instead of Leonard's power because he's a natural welterweight, I think its his jab alone that gives Mayweather all kinds of trouble. Leonard is close to as fast or as fast as Floyd at WW, and I think that PBF would have troubles with that jab because Leonard could cover so much distance to land it, and he knew how to use to so well on teh outisde(Like against Benitez), however PBF would adapt like Wilfred did, and I think this fight gets really interesting as it progresses. THis is Mayweather most difficult fight IMO.

I think DUran is a problem because he's a lot harder to hit then Chavez, he hits as hard as Chavez, when its comes to Floyd's power he is as hard to hurt as Chavez, and he was faster/better then Chavez. I think DUran had problems against Leonard in the second fihgt, but Floyd has never moved that much at welterweight, I think it would be a great fight off the ropes with Floyd fighting like he did against Hatton, but Duran doing better than Hatton offensively. I think this fight is a toss up.

[DaxxKahn]

Depends exactly what time, and what weight class he were in. PBF is not one of those guys like Castillo or Corrales who cuts a lot of weight, so I can see him fighting in these lower classes under the old rules.

At 130-135, I make PBF a slight underdog against Camacho and Chavez.

At 140, like-wise, I make him a slight underdog against Pryor.

At 147, there's a fairly decent sized list of guys I'd make the favorite over PBF.

Agree with the slight underdog against Camacho...Not that he is better then Chavez was but his style was one where Floyd would have to be the agressor and it was hard to pin Camacho down to hit him at that stage...IMO the bout with Chavez would be a toss up

Pryor KO's Floyd at 140...If Floyd tried to lay on the ropes and counter he would have been hospitalized

At 147 Leonard, Hearns both beat him

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

would he be a p4p king?

He would be dead

[Majesty]

would he be a p4p king?

He would be dead

As would every other fighter you'll mention in the Floyd Mayweather Jr p4p era because he was better then them all


Also why does everyone bring up the Castillo fight? that wasn't mayweather at his best and I think we've all seen that and people just have to start admitting it.

The castillo fight has no relevance whatsoever anymore because we've seen Mayweather at what we feel is his peak and it wasn't against Castillo.

Don't short change Mayweather's ability because the fighters in the 80s are your more favorite or because they were tougher.

You should look at the styles of the fighters.

Most fans seem to have the misnomer that if they admit a fighter of this generation can beat a fighter in the past that they are saying that boxer of this generation is a better boxer, so they protect their favorites and throw them the people they don't care about a lot just to give them some credit.

Which is why I see people saying he couldn't beat Duran but are handing him camacho.

Mayweather would outbox Duran. Doesn't make him greater then Duran.

Mayweather would outbox Chavez.


Mayweather could beat Aaron Pryor because he wouldn't get drawn into a fight with him. Aaron was tough as nails and could take your best punch. But don't overrate one and underrate the other, Mayweather is one of the most gifted boxers of his time and is one of the top greatest fighters of his generation. The first being Roy Jones Jr. Mayweather is second on that list, no questions, and you don't get that kind of spot for nothing.

So don't discredit Mayweather because he isn't your cup of tea, the fact is he is one of the greatest boxers to ever grace the ring and he can hang with the 80s legends.