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    Default Rule changes in boxing.

    Which of the following do you think should be enacted by all boxing commissions and organizations.

    1) Instant Replays.
    Simply stating that in close or controversial rulings, instant replays may be used to review and change if necessary the outcome of the fight.


    2) Ranking Champions by all Organizations
    A Champion of for example the WBC would still be ranked by the WBO, IBF and WBA


    3) Limit organizations to ONE champ.
    Eliminate Super, Interim and Emeritus titles
    Last edited by killersheep; 08-19-2008 at 07:36 PM.
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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Would rather have just one belt each division, but yeah to all 3
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    Do away with number three all together! and yes to 1 and 2

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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by plopeater View Post
    Would rather have just one belt each division, but yeah to all 3

    Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.
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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by plopeater View Post
    Would rather have just one belt each division, but yeah to all 3

    Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.

    And Ring is in for what? Cookies and milk?
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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by plopeater View Post
    Would rather have just one belt each division, but yeah to all 3

    Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.

    And Ring is in for what? Cookies and milk?
    The Ring does not collect sanctioning fees.
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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.

    And Ring is in for what? Cookies and milk?
    The Ring does not collect sanctioning fees.
    The Ring sells mag's and the more they sell, the more they make. Just like all the rest of them.
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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    No to replays wont work.

    Could give a guy hurt valuble seconds to recover also referees could use this to favour the home town fighter.

    I agee with one champion but again wont work the orgs would never agree.

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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    No to replays wont work.

    Could give a guy hurt valuble seconds to recover also referees could use this to favour the home town fighter.

    I agee with one champion but again wont work the orgs would never agree.
    I should have been more clear, the replays would be used only post fight on rulings such as cuts and low blows for point deductions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    No to replays wont work.

    Could give a guy hurt valuble seconds to recover also referees could use this to favour the home town fighter.

    I agee with one champion but again wont work the orgs would never agree.
    A rule was already set where they had one minute in between rounds to review the tape, kind of like they do in football, a minute might not always be enough but if they move fast enough, they might be able to solve some issues. I was judging the Leonard/Hagler fight and I gave round 4 to Leonard but after watching a replay, I had to change my score and call the round even because SRL's bolo punch was not right on the money, it was a low blow and it was that bolo punch that made the difference in me giving the round to SRL but after seeing it was low, how could I give that round to Ray? I am not saying the judges should have access to instant replay but I think the corner should be able to get a quick review call the foul in question and if it is a foul, let the judges see it and then they can turn in their score cards That is fair. Give each corner 3 review chances? Two maybe per fight? I don't know.

    I say one minute of instant replay is some cases is better than none at all.



    In the case of the Thompson fight last week, it did not take 20 seconds to view that it was a head butt that caused the cut. Simple as that jack.
    Last edited by SigmaMu; 08-19-2008 at 08:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by plopeater View Post
    Would rather have just one belt each division, but yeah to all 3

    Yeah but realistically these organizations aren't going anywhere, It would be an ideal situation to simply have the Ring title IMO. I can't see the alphabets saying "we no longer have a need for money" unfortunately though.
    Many feel the ring's cred has been comprimized from the purchasing by ODLH, so now what?

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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Agree with all three but the replay shouldn't overturn the cards in less a head butt is discovered that wasn't previously scored as. Like in the fight on friday night where Anthony Thompson got screwed cause a butt from Arvin in the 3rd opened up a nasty cut which was never ruled as a butt. Thompson was easlily winning the fight before the Doctors called it a tko 6 in favor of Ismail Arvin. The men in charge to oversee the bout even looked at the replay and admitingly seen the head butt, but still had to make the wrong ruling.

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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Yeah I don't like the replay idea... I wouldn't like the fight being played out and finishing, and then having to go over some tape to crown a winner...

    I think it should definetly stay in the hands of the ref. As long as we are prepared for them to sometimes make mistakes, and accept that that is just boxing, then I think it would stay a more enjoyable sport..

    But if we truely wanted boxing to return to Glory, I think having only one belt would do just that..... I mean, boxing needs to appeal to the general public as well, and they can't follow 3 or 4 champs.... One belt, one world champion in each weight division. Throw them ALL into the one pot and work your way to the top of that division by having to fight THE best....
    It would make boxing so much more explosive....

    But it's about diversifying these days, and I suppose for the actual fighters, it's a much better industry now with all the belts/organizations, and opportunity to have more money earning fights... How it is now is definetly good for the fighters, but it takes a bit away from boxing/sports fans..

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    Default Re: Rule changes in boxing.

    Thanks to all the banter back and forth. It is good to see both sides of these debates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    Yeah I don't like the replay idea... I wouldn't like the fight being played out and finishing, and then having to go over some tape to crown a winner...

    I think it should definetly stay in the hands of the ref. As long as we are prepared for them to sometimes make mistakes, and accept that that is just boxing, then I think it would stay a more enjoyable sport..

    But if we truely wanted boxing to return to Glory, I think having only one belt would do just that..... I mean, boxing needs to appeal to the general public as well, and they can't follow 3 or 4 champs.... One belt, one world champion in each weight division. Throw them ALL into the one pot and work your way to the top of that division by having to fight THE best....
    It would make boxing so much more explosive....

    But it's about diversifying these days, and I suppose for the actual fighters, it's a much better industry now with all the belts/organizations, and opportunity to have more money earning fights... How it is now is definetly good for the fighters, but it takes a bit away from boxing/sports fans..
    You make it sound as though every fight is full of contraversy and that is not the case but KillerSheep gave a perfect example of a fight in which the instant replay would have helped solve the situation and corrected the human error.
    It's not easy to follow the sport and takes way too much time to follow all of the divisions and that is why I dont watch the fat azzes for example. I try to narrow down watching fights in divisions such as super featherweight thru super middleweight and even then I have a difficult time keeping track of the sport. I am accused of only knowing Cotto and Mora and that is ok by me

    Don't get me wrong, I have all of the classic fights of a great era of Ali, Holmes, Smokin Joe etc.. I stopped watching the fat boys during the Tyson era. I hated Tyson and I guess I still do. Have not payed attention to the fatboy division since he came in. Right now, the heavy weight division stinks So I ain't missing anything anyway and would much rather watch something else. (Oooppps I was put to sleep by Vladimir Clitoris last month, don't know why I was watching )

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