Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Results 1 to 15 of 21

Thread: The Mexican Point Of View

Share/Bookmark

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    2,781
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1181
    Cool Clicks

    Default The Mexican Point Of View

    BoxeoMundial: La Meca del Boxeo En Español- Noticias de boxeo las 24 horas del dia, #1 resource in spanish boxing -- Manny Pacquiao, Muhammad Ali, Miguel Cotto, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray, Floyd Mayweather, Roberto Duran, Julio Cesar Chavez,Oscar De La H

    THE MEXICAN POINT OF VIEWFont Size Author: Hessiquio Balderas
    Date: 8/19/2008
    Pacquiao here in México is an icon. Despite he has beaten a large list of mexican fighters. i´ve gone to cover many fights here in mexico (all over the country) and its amazing to see how the ring is the dirt floor, no ropes, no real referi, just two guys beating each other without boxing trunks, without boxing shoes, just their daily outfit. Wether its boots and pants. But they want to be Pacquiao. You would hear the introducctions as Juan Antonio ``El Pacquiao`` Martinez. Or in other venues the crowd would scream to the fighter who is agressive ``lets go Pacquiao`` this gives you an idea of how big Pacquiao is here in Mexico.

    For his fight against David Diaz, Paquiao was a big, or i should said a huge favorite to win. I conducted a poll in the street here in mexico and 90 % of the people wanted Pacman to win. They didnt know who Diaz was in the first place. Pacquiao brings that plus that Mike Tyson used to bring to his fights and that is exciment, he comes to fight and that is what people all over the World like, México is no exception

    The other fighter that is as popular as Manny here in Mexico is Jorge ``Travieso`` Arce, obviously De La Hoya, and Julio Cesar Chavez jr.

    You would mention the names of many other mexican fighters here in Mexico, such as Terra Garcia, Cochulito Montiel, Edgar Sosa, Christian Mijares, etc. And they are known to the hardcore boeing fans, but sadly the general public doesn´t know who they are, but they know who Manny Pacquiao is, its like asking who Bruce Lee was and everybody knows that. When you reach that level, its when you know you´re a superstar World wide and that is the result of one thing. Dedication and hard work.


    De La Hoya vs Pacquiao: its a mismatch, everyone says that. i believe that to a certain point, but i also believe that Roach is right about oscar not pulling the trigger anymore. Look at his bout with Floyd jr. There were moments where Oscar would just stand in front of Floyd without punching, but recieving punches from all angles. When that happens and you stay in front of an oponent like that its not only that you are tired is that you cant pull the trigger. i think oscar is very strong for the first few rounds, but pacquiao its very strong for 12 rounds. And lets not forget that Steve Forbes can´t punch and is a small fighter and if he was able to do some damage to oscar, pacquiao should and will cause a lot of damage, speed is power and speed kills and pacquiao has that and a punch, he should take the fight get that huge payday and move on and probably begin to search for a few more fights and then retire.

    The people in Mexico are still a bit angry with Oscar because he beat Julio Cesar Chavez twice.

    I wouldn´t be surprise if Manny is the favorite here in Mexico over De La Hoya

    hessiquio@yahoo.com


    This is the best article I've read about Pacquiao. Thanks to the author. Just proves Manny Pacquiao is a hero for EVERYBODY.
    Funny thing is when my wife and I had our wedding anniversary vacation in Cancun 3 weeks ago, almost everyone that I've spoken to has always brought up Manny saying great things about him
    Last edited by Pavlik; 08-20-2008 at 02:13 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    3,604
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1598
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    ....and someone asked who's fight against oscar would make more cash...pac or tony
    Hidden Content Click clack ! Give up the purse.........or yetti will find you.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    375
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1008
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    Wow... Im not trying to be disrespectful but that article is full of shat. 90 percent of mexicans wanted Pacquaio to win agaisnt Diaz? Pacquaio is proably more popular then Oscar because they are mad he beat Chavez twice?.......... Ok mexicans for a fact know who Pacquaio is because he fought Morales beat him twice, Same with barrera, and they say he robbed Marquez twice. I would say 90 percent of mexicans hate pacquiao and want him to lose as they are very aware of his "mexicutioner" alias. Sure they don't know who Diaz is but the last name alone would make them root for him. Trust me when I say they dislike him I go to mexico alot, I live in a hispanic community Brownsville I can walk to mexico if I wanted to... Thats not to say mexicans think pac is a bum because they do admit he is a great fighter but it's just hard to root for a guy who is label a mexican killer...
    Hidden Content There is no reward for second place

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Beyond the wall
    Posts
    17,202
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    4426
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    I read the article and found it interesting that in a hispanic website, that about 75% of the people that reviewed this were anonymous yet stated they were Pinoys.
    Last edited by killersheep; 08-20-2008 at 04:38 PM.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    1,736
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1239
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    For me, Pac lost his "Mexicutioner" status after facing Marquez twice.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Beyond the wall
    Posts
    17,202
    Mentioned
    38 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    4426
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    For me, Pac lost his "Mexicutioner" status after facing Marquez twice.
    Cheers to that.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Oakland, California, USA
    Posts
    417
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    0
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    Quote Originally Posted by purtyboy View Post
    Wow... Im not trying to be disrespectful but that article is full of shat. 90 percent of mexicans wanted Pacquaio to win agaisnt Diaz? Pacquaio is proably more popular then Oscar because they are mad he beat Chavez twice?.......... Ok mexicans for a fact know who Pacquaio is because he fought Morales beat him twice, Same with barrera, and they say he robbed Marquez twice. I would say 90 percent of mexicans hate pacquiao and want him to lose as they are very aware of his "mexicutioner" alias. Sure they don't know who Diaz is but the last name alone would make them root for him. Trust me when I say they dislike him I go to mexico alot, I live in a hispanic community Brownsville I can walk to mexico if I wanted to... Thats not to say mexicans think pac is a bum because they do admit he is a great fighter but it's just hard to root for a guy who is label a mexican killer...

    That article is very credible. In my experience. almost 95% of Mex-American I asked about this fight picks Pac. here's some of them:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mNBt6sz-sg

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    2,781
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1181
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    Yikes, I thought this thread was to become positive like the article. A Filipino athlete transcending racial ambiguity and bias by getting respect from another nationality.
    I did not post this to brag about PACQUIAO being GODZILLA.
    Anyways. SALUD

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    2,781
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1181
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    Not every Manny Pacquiao fan thinks he is capable of walking on water, most of us are realistic and logical in our hopes for our Hero. We know his limitations and still stand behind him.
    In all honesty though I'm starting to feel the animosity just because I'm rooting for him.

  10. #10
    Addicted to_boxing Guest

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    BoxeoMundial: La Meca del Boxeo En Español- Noticias de boxeo las 24 horas del dia, #1 resource in spanish boxing -- Manny Pacquiao, Muhammad Ali, Miguel Cotto, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray, Floyd Mayweather, Roberto Duran, Julio Cesar Chavez,Oscar De La H

    THE MEXICAN POINT OF VIEWFont Size Author: Hessiquio Balderas
    Date: 8/19/2008
    Pacquiao here in México is an icon. Despite he has beaten a large list of mexican fighters. i´ve gone to cover many fights here in mexico (all over the country) and its amazing to see how the ring is the dirt floor, no ropes, no real referi, just two guys beating each other without boxing trunks, without boxing shoes, just their daily outfit. Wether its boots and pants. But they want to be Pacquiao. You would hear the introducctions as Juan Antonio ``El Pacquiao`` Martinez. Or in other venues the crowd would scream to the fighter who is agressive ``lets go Pacquiao`` this gives you an idea of how big Pacquiao is here in Mexico.

    For his fight against David Diaz, Paquiao was a big, or i should said a huge favorite to win. I conducted a poll in the street here in mexico and 90 % of the people wanted Pacman to win. They didnt know who Diaz was in the first place. Pacquiao brings that plus that Mike Tyson used to bring to his fights and that is exciment, he comes to fight and that is what people all over the World like, México is no exception

    The other fighter that is as popular as Manny here in Mexico is Jorge ``Travieso`` Arce, obviously De La Hoya, and Julio Cesar Chavez jr.

    You would mention the names of many other mexican fighters here in Mexico, such as Terra Garcia, Cochulito Montiel, Edgar Sosa, Christian Mijares, etc. And they are known to the hardcore boeing fans, but sadly the general public doesn´t know who they are, but they know who Manny Pacquiao is, its like asking who Bruce Lee was and everybody knows that. When you reach that level, its when you know you´re a superstar World wide and that is the result of one thing. Dedication and hard work.


    De La Hoya vs Pacquiao: its a mismatch, everyone says that. i believe that to a certain point, but i also believe that Roach is right about oscar not pulling the trigger anymore. Look at his bout with Floyd jr. There were moments where Oscar would just stand in front of Floyd without punching, but recieving punches from all angles. When that happens and you stay in front of an oponent like that its not only that you are tired is that you cant pull the trigger. i think oscar is very strong for the first few rounds, but pacquiao its very strong for 12 rounds. And lets not forget that Steve Forbes can´t punch and is a small fighter and if he was able to do some damage to oscar, pacquiao should and will cause a lot of damage, speed is power and speed kills and pacquiao has that and a punch, he should take the fight get that huge payday and move on and probably begin to search for a few more fights and then retire.

    The people in Mexico are still a bit angry with Oscar because he beat Julio Cesar Chavez twice.

    I wouldn´t be surprise if Manny is the favorite here in Mexico over De La Hoya

    hessiquio@yahoo.com


    This is the best article I've read about Pacquiao. Thanks to the author. Just proves Manny Pacquiao is a hero for EVERYBODY.
    Funny thing is when my wife and I had our wedding anniversary vacation in Cancun 3 weeks ago, almost everyone that I've spoken to has always brought up Manny saying great things about him
    Let it be known ODLH is not considered a true Mexican figher in Mexico. He is a US born fighter residing in Puerto Rico. How do you expect the tri-color waving people of Mexico to root for ODLH. Get real this article is BS ..... No way a true Mexican is rooting for Pac no more than a Pinoy is rooting against Pac !!! Quit the nut hugging PR work already !

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    West,Yorkshire,UK
    Posts
    3,832
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1440
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: The Mexican Point Of View

    Well I'm a british boxing fan but it doesn't mean I only like british fighters. In fact I could not stand Hamed and I'm not the biggest fan of Calzaghe (more because of the way he has waited for the legends RJJ and B-HOP to get really old before pressing for the fights than anything). In fact I am a Hatton fan but when he fought Tszyu I wanted Kostya to win. So to me nationality shouldn't mean too much, in boxing people should be allowed to like who they want. I mean if a lets say good respectful Brazilian man came out to a nightclub in England and ended up fighting an absolute arsehole englishman I'd want the foreigner to win that fight so why should it be any different in boxing?

    I think that its good that Mexicans like Pac and I can see why they would, he fights the way they like.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. What is the point of Joe Cortez?
    By ono in forum Boxing Talk
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-03-2008, 04:10 PM
  2. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-07-2008, 06:50 AM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-06-2008, 12:50 AM
  4. SPEED BAG...what's the point??
    By CRO-Luka in forum Ask the Trainer
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 06-03-2005, 02:54 PM
  5. Heavy bag? what's the point?
    By Dave_bandit in forum Important / Useful Posts
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 05-25-2005, 12:59 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing