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    I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

    For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

    Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

    What is your take on this?
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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?
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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?
    IT could be their ego but the fact that some fans hate it might makes them think twice before doing it
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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?
    I agree ICB I also think its good to take the knee to get your bearings. But in the heat of the moment I think a lot of fighters look for that opportunity to counter while their opponent is attacking or they don't want to show how hurt they really are...
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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    Many boxers are also not aware how much time left in a round where taking a knee in the dying seconds of round could spell victory or defeat...

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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    I think when a fighter takes a knee after being seriously hurt it shows a great deal of intelligence and composure.

    Many times it is the difference between a KD and a KO. I see nothing wrong with it at all, and I have a hard time understanding why someone would say otherwise.

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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    most probably dont want there pride hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Nothing wrong with taking a knee i've seen few Amateurs live do it i've seen one of the guys that goes to my gym do it and he comeback to win the fight i personally think its very smart move and to be honest more fighters should do when there dazed or seriously hurt but i suppose its hard to think like that when you've got a rain of punches coming your way or some boxers just have such a big ego that they won't do either way i think more fighters should do it if i remember rightly didn't Serguei Lyakhovich go down on one knee against Lamon Brewster ?
    I agree ICB I also think its good to take the knee to get your bearings. But in the heat of the moment I think a lot of fighters look for that opportunity to counter while their opponent is attacking or they don't want to show how hurt they really are...
    Yea and also with that; by taking a knee when your opponent is getting wild trying to finish you, you are giving him the same chance to breathe and think things out as you get. It becomes a big judgement call whether you will be able to recuperate enough in those 10 seconds and defend yourself more intelligently , when your opponent can measure a better attack in that same time you are trying to recover.
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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    It's unpopular since majority of the boxers taking a knee in a fight ended up losing that fight...

    Not many were smart enough to fully take advantage of a "knee" breather... The one that remains standing almost always has the upperhand...

    Many just consider taking a knee a losing effort...
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    Its a funny one, I never did it, thats why Ive been chinned a few times. Whether its because there vision goes and need time probably to clear. Ive been on my arse a few times, thinking if I get up this cunt will Kill me. But I still got up . Some time winning , sometimes finnishing back on my arse
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    If a fighter is hurt it's a fantastic idea to take a knee. The problem is you don't train to do it. It's counter-intuitive to what you put weeks in the gym for. To willingly give away a round so you can come back to win the fight doesn't make sense on the surface. But when a guy is beating you like you forgot to make dinner it makes all the sense in the world. You need to make him stop and recover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puya View Post
    I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

    For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

    Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

    What is your take on this?

    My take is if you take a knee your a pussy, If your are a championship caliber boxer, you should be ready for ANYTHING when you get into the ring. Fighters are getting paid to win. Not necessarily lay their life on the line, but they should do anything, and everything possible to win. If you can win safely then I don't have a problem with it, but if you need to lay it all on the line then I think you have to.

    Cotto gave up. I've seen fighters take way more punishment and not give up. I mean watch Tua-Ibeabuchi, Ali vs Frazier, Holyfield-Quawi, Holyfield-Tyson.

    FIghts like Roy against Glen Johnson, he didn't take a knee, but he was a real man because he didn't give up, he fought until he was KTFO, Same with Tyson against Lewis or Holyfield, even though he had quit long before the end he still stood in there and took what was owed to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Puya View Post
    I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

    For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

    Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

    What is your take on this?



    My take is if you take a knee your a pussy, If your are a championship caliber boxer, you should be ready for ANYTHING when you get into the ring. Fighters are getting paid to win. Not necessarily lay their life on the line, but they should do anything, and everything possible to win. If you can win safely then I don't have a problem with it, but if you need to lay it all on the line then I think you have to.

    Cotto gave up. I've seen fighters take way more punishment and not give up. I mean watch Tua-Ibeabuchi, Ali vs Frazier, Holyfield-Quawi, Holyfield-Tyson.

    FIghts like Roy against Glen Johnson, he didn't take a knee, but he was a real man because he didn't give up, he fought until he was KTFO, Same with Tyson against Lewis or Holyfield, even though he had quit long before the end he still stood in there and took what was owed to him.
    See what I mean?
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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    Of course taking a knee is unpopular. This is a combat sport.

    I'm not saying it's bad. If someone gives all they can and knows there is nothing left then save it for another day or retire.

    But people are bloodthirsty. Especially people who like combat sports, like boxing. Taking a knee is submission. Viewers want people who are gonna act like they will put it all on the line in the ring. Problem is when you got $10 mil in the bank and another $4 mil coming for the fight your not going to do that unless you are a crazy mo

    And specs like crazy mo's.

    It's risk/reward. If you are getting paid 7-8 digits then people don't care if you gave it your all they want to see you put out or get shut out.

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    Default Re: Why taking a knee is so unpopular?....

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Puya View Post
    I mean I don't know if it just some Mexican boxing fans (I could be wrong) but I read a lot of people criticizing when a boxer takes a knee.

    For example take last Saturday if Casamayor would have take a knee he might have ended the round taking a time to recover instead of punching crazy while hurt. Cotto vs Margarito, if Cotto wouldn't take a knee he might had got seriously hurt.

    Do boxers hesitate to take a knee knowing that is necessary at times but since is unpopular they decide not to do it?

    What is your take on this?

    My take is if you take a knee your a pussy, If your are a championship caliber boxer, you should be ready for ANYTHING when you get into the ring. Fighters are getting paid to win. Not necessarily lay their life on the line, but they should do anything, and everything possible to win. If you can win safely then I don't have a problem with it, but if you need to lay it all on the line then I think you have to.

    Cotto gave up. I've seen fighters take way more punishment and not give up. I mean watch Tua-Ibeabuchi, Ali vs Frazier, Holyfield-Quawi, Holyfield-Tyson.

    FIghts like Roy against Glen Johnson, he didn't take a knee, but he was a real man because he didn't give up, he fought until he was KTFO, Same with Tyson against Lewis or Holyfield, even though he had quit long before the end he still stood in there and took what was owed to him.
    ^^^^^^Dumb shit right there.

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