It makes sense to me why Guzman didn't make weight

[Taeth]

He was 148 against Soto even though he was in at 128 something. Doing this to your body can make it so that you can't even even get within 10 pounds of that down the road. Obviously he was destroying his too much in order to make 130, and sometimes that makes a guy skip a weight class. Thats why Castillo had a hard time making 140 after fighting his whole career at 135, and thats why Corrales skipped the LWW division, because he couldn't make 140. When Guzman is putting on 18-20 pounds from weigh-in to fight night, that will have its a toll on a fighter even if they don't go through wars in the ring, that doesn't mean their bodies haven't gone through wars in the sauna. If he still turned down the fight, and the chance to lose the weight it tells me something was very wrong with him, and that to do so would be very dangerous.

[Violent Demise]

His punk ass should still be suspended.

[XaduBoxer]

Mississippi Boxing Commission will probably impose a 1 year suspension on Guzman... IMO he deserved it tho it's sad to deprive him to earn a living...

[Gandalf]

No doubt he should be penalised for what happened. If you know you are having trouble making the weight, it should be open and upfront and the fight can be rescheduled or cancelled with due notice. Otherwise you are just screwing around a lot of people and making a mess of things. I could understand if he was even close to the weight but he was closer to junior welterweight than 135. Way off.

[Spicoli]

Mississippi Boxing Commission will probably impose a 1 year suspension on Guzman... IMO he deserved it tho it's sad to deprive him to earn a living...

He just had an oppurtunity to earn a living Nate should be payed and fight right away ,Guzman fined abit.He was hungry in all the wrong ways

[kingfrnk]

nates got a mandatory comin up soon and yes guzman should get suspended along with an old fashioned ass whoopin from nate himself.

[Taeth]

Either you guys are idiots, or you have no experience with whole cutting weight scenario. This happens sometimes. You don't think Corrales trained his ass off to make weight against Casamayor for their third fight? You don't think Gary Russell Jr. trained hard to make weight for the olympics? Or Gavin?

[CutMeMick]

People often make it seem like loosing a few pounds is nothing.

I always say even if it's 1 weight class fighters are not just loosing let's say the 5 pounds from 135 to 130 or visa versa. The are often loosing 15-20 pounds.

Which is why since ODLH-Pac was talked about I said it was ridicoulous to think ODLH could drop down to 147 without a HUGE sacrafice.
He's gonna look like a corpse come weigh in day. Then he'll ballon up but the damage has been made by then.

I can only see a bad ending here for ODLH whether in the ring or out of ring either way I see this as a loose loose situation for him.

[SweetPea]

He was 148 against Soto even though he was in at 128 something. Doing this to your body can make it so that you can't even even get within 10 pounds of that down the road.

Which is why I've been saying for a while that there should be a limit on the amount of weight you're allowed to gain in the time after the weigh-in.

If it's an 130 pound fight, you shouldn't be allowed to rehydrate over 140. If it's a 135 pound fight, you shouldn't be able to enter the ring above 147, etc.

[Julius Rain]

He was 148 against Soto even though he was in at 128 something. Doing this to your body can make it so that you can't even even get within 10 pounds of that down the road.

Which is why I've been saying for a while that there should be a limit on the amount of weight you're allowed to gain in the time after the weigh-in.

If it's an 130 pound fight, you shouldn't be allowed to rehydrate over 140. If it's a 135 pound fight, you shouldn't be able to enter the ring above 147, etc.

that would be even more harder on fighters, that means they have to watch their weight twice before the fight. its additional stress the fighters do not need.

[No Contest]

Too bad it's only a ban in Mississippi, that isn't going to hurt him at all. I hope he gets sued by Nate and has to pay out of his next fight's purse. Especially after what 3 fights in a row falling through with this guy.

[boozeboxer]

He was 148 against Soto even though he was in at 128 something. Doing this to your body can make it so that you can't even even get within 10 pounds of that down the road.

Which is why I've been saying for a while that there should be a limit on the amount of weight you're allowed to gain in the time after the weigh-in.

If it's an 130 pound fight, you shouldn't be allowed to rehydrate over 140. If it's a 135 pound fight, you shouldn't be able to enter the ring above 147, etc.

that would be even more harder on fighters, that means they have to watch their weight twice before the fight. its additional stress the fighters do not need.

I think the IBF has some additional weight restrictions......

[RozzySean]

He was 148 against Soto even though he was in at 128 something. Doing this to your body can make it so that you can't even even get within 10 pounds of that down the road. Obviously he was destroying his too much in order to make 130, and sometimes that makes a guy skip a weight class. Thats why Castillo had a hard time making 140 after fighting his whole career at 135, and thats why Corrales skipped the LWW division, because he couldn't make 140. When Guzman is putting on 18-20 pounds from weigh-in to fight night, that will have its a toll on a fighter even if they don't go through wars in the ring, that doesn't mean their bodies haven't gone through wars in the sauna. If he still turned down the fight, and the chance to lose the weight it tells me something was very wrong with him, and that to do so would be very dangerous.

Now that we know Guzman pulls a Ricky Hatton in between fights, you're right, it makes sense, especially when he doesn't give himself a long enough training camp like Hatton does.The problem was that he let himself ballon up in between fights and had a short training came. He probably did very little conditioning during his layoff. If you are going to live that kind of lifestyle, you give yourself time. Guzman knew he had a big fight coming at some point. He should have watched his diet and done a little running before camp started. If he would have showed up at camp at 155 instead of 170, he could have easily dropped ten more naturally in a six week camp and drained out the last ten without putting himself in jeopardy.

Also, you can drain water from muscle much more easily than you can from fat. If he was draining 15lbs of water to make weight before, it was possible because he was in proper shape. If he had let his lean muscle mass drop by being out of shape for his entire year off, there is no way he could drain the same amount of water. Look at Tito and Roy before there fight...in shape, active Jones made weight no problem. Fat, inactive Tito had the weight issue.

Look at Bernard Hopkins. Why was he able to stay at MW so long? He stayed in shape between training camps. Same with Shane Mosley. Same with Roy Jones.

The same thing happened with Chico and JCC. They didn't take care of themselves between fights and as they aged, it caught up with them. If they treated their bodies like Hopkins treats his, weight never would have been an issue for either. Perhaps moving up one division would have been necessary, but they could have made weight properly.